45th President of the United States of America

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    unsung said:

    Bush divided it in 2003.

    I think you're spot on, man. I thought maybe the 2000 election, but the war in Iraq probably sealed the deal.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    Godfather. said:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald J Trump ! (Make America great again)


    Godfather.

    I give you credit...you were one of a few on here (maybe the only one?) saying that he was going to win.

    Let's hope he doesn't fuck it up.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    I disagree. All the other major aggregators had HRC with a much better chance than he did. Over the past week plus he was warning about her slip, the accuracy of the polls and the potential for a popular vote and EV split. If anything, maybe he came out ahead.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Isreal can go fuck itself
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Godfather. said:

    josevolution said:

    Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

    its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

    Godfather.

    Trump got less votes than Romney
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And Clinton got less than Obama. People weren't interested.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ledvedderman said:

    unsung said:

    Bush divided it in 2003.

    I think you're spot on, man. I thought maybe the 2000 election, but the war in Iraq probably sealed the deal.
    He was at 91% approval after 9/11, little did we know.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    unsung said:

    And Clinton got less than Obama. People weren't interested.

    Yes, but my point was addressing the record turnout comment. Less votes than Romney plus less votes than Obama equals lower turnout.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Ok.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Degeneratefk said:

    Isreal can go fuck itself

    Yessir
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    Degeneratefk said:

    Isreal can go fuck itself

    now we're talking. The Don should start there....
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

    In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    Godfather. said:

    josevolution said:

    Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

    its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

    Godfather.

    We're divided because the GOP needed to fire you up to get you to vote. Obama's approval rating is higher than Reagan's was at this time during his final year.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    Gern Blansten said:

    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

    In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.
    I follow his projections.

    Throughout the process, he was very careful to stress how 'volatile' and unique this particular election was. As of last week he said Trump was within the margin of error.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    I think the polls were off because some people were ashamed to admit who they were actual voting for.

    He took swing states and then some. This was best case scenario for trump.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    MayDay10 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

    In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.
    I follow his projections.

    Throughout the process, he was very careful to stress how 'volatile' and unique this particular election was. As of last week he said Trump was within the margin of error.
    Yeah he was really on it.

    Last night around 10pm or so he tweeted something to the effect that it was ridiculous for other models (Princeton Election Consortium for one) to show a 98% likelihood for Clinton to win.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Jason P said:

    I think the polls were off because some people were ashamed to admit who they were actual voting for.

    He took swing states and then some. This was best case scenario for trump.

    I don't know if they were ashamed or purposely giving the finger to pollsters. I think people are seriously annoyed with the media spinning the polls to meet their rhetoric and acting like they are a good source of public opinion. I'd like to see a few studies regarding demographics most likely to answer to polling. Maybe it's a good sign that people believe way too much of what they see on TV and other chosen media platforms that fit their fancy.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Godfather. said:

    josevolution said:

    Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

    its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

    Godfather.

    Congratulations to President elect Trump. I said to you and others this election was the republican's turn to power and that has come through. As for your words that the division of this country started under Obama (odd that you called him by his actual name for once) is garbage. Put aside your hatred of Obama for a bit.....it started under GWBUSH and continued through our current president. GF ask yourself this question is this country in a better position than it was in 2008?

    Id love to hear what you have to say.

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Gern Blansten said:

    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

    In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.
    Silver was absolutely right and he took a lot of heat from Huffpo and others. The two big numbers he discussed was 1) commonality of 3 point polling errors and 2) the level of undecided (13%!) late in the game meant wide range for movement. Undecideds usually break for a challenger late in the game and in this election Hillary was essentially the encumbant. It was always a "change" election and the only question is whether those who wanted change would be willing to dive in with Trump. It is not more complicated then that.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    pjhawks said:

    the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

    Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

    In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.
    Silver was absolutely right and he took a lot of heat from Huffpo and others. The two big numbers he discussed was 1) commonality of 3 point polling errors and 2) the level of undecided (13%!) late in the game meant wide range for movement. Undecideds usually break for a challenger late in the game and in this election Hillary was essentially the encumbant. It was always a "change" election and the only question is whether those who wanted change would be willing to dive in with Trump. It is not more complicated then that.
    Go back to his blog last night he had Hilliary winning up until midnight est.
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