45th President of the United States of America

rustneversleeps

Degeneratefk said:

Isreal can go fuck itself

now we're talking. The Don should start there....

Gern Blansten

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

Godfather.

We're divided because the GOP needed to fire you up to get you to vote. Obama's approval rating is higher than Reagan's was at this time during his final year.

MayDay10

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

I follow his projections.

Throughout the process, he was very careful to stress how 'volatile' and unique this particular election was. As of last week he said Trump was within the margin of error.

Jason P

I think the polls were off because some people were ashamed to admit who they were actual voting for.

He took swing states and then some. This was best case scenario for trump.

Gern Blansten

MayDay10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

I follow his projections.

Throughout the process, he was very careful to stress how 'volatile' and unique this particular election was. As of last week he said Trump was within the margin of error.

Yeah he was really on it.

Last night around 10pm or so he tweeted something to the effect that it was ridiculous for other models (Princeton Election Consortium for one) to show a 98% likelihood for Clinton to win.

PJPOWER

Jason P said:

I think the polls were off because some people were ashamed to admit who they were actual voting for.

He took swing states and then some. This was best case scenario for trump.

I don't know if they were ashamed or purposely giving the finger to pollsters. I think people are seriously annoyed with the media spinning the polls to meet their rhetoric and acting like they are a good source of public opinion. I'd like to see a few studies regarding demographics most likely to answer to polling. Maybe it's a good sign that people believe way too much of what they see on TV and other chosen media platforms that fit their fancy.

g under p

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

Godfather.

Congratulations to President elect Trump. I said to you and others this election was the republican's turn to power and that has come through. As for your words that the division of this country started under Obama (odd that you called him by his actual name for once) is garbage. Put aside your hatred of Obama for a bit.....it started under GWBUSH and continued through our current president. GF ask yourself this question is this country in a better position than it was in 2008?

Id love to hear what you have to say.

Peace

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

Silver was absolutely right and he took a lot of heat from Huffpo and others. The two big numbers he discussed was 1) commonality of 3 point polling errors and 2) the level of undecided (13%!) late in the game meant wide range for movement. Undecideds usually break for a challenger late in the game and in this election Hillary was essentially the encumbant. It was always a "change" election and the only question is whether those who wanted change would be willing to dive in with Trump. It is not more complicated then that.

JC29856

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

Silver was absolutely right and he took a lot of heat from Huffpo and others. The two big numbers he discussed was 1) commonality of 3 point polling errors and 2) the level of undecided (13%!) late in the game meant wide range for movement. Undecideds usually break for a challenger late in the game and in this election Hillary was essentially the encumbant. It was always a "change" election and the only question is whether those who wanted change would be willing to dive in with Trump. It is not more complicated then that.

Go back to his blog last night he had Hilliary winning up until midnight est.

Jason P

The bad news for Trump is that moving into the White House will be a downgrade in luxury for him.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, Donald J Trump ! (Make America great again)


Godfather.

I give you credit...you were one of a few on here (maybe the only one?) saying that he was going to win.

Let's hope he doesn't fuck it up.

and if he does fuck it up I'll be on the anti Trump train in 4 years but I'm hoping for the best.

Godfather.

Cliffy6745

Your 45th president...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/opinion/donald-trumps-revolt.html

Gern Blansten

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

the only bigger individual loser in this election than Hillary is Nate Silver. goodbye nate your 15 minutes is over.

Disagree....Nate still gave Trump a 30% chance to win when other models gave him almost no chance. He got a lot of flack for even reflecting 30%.

In a sense he was right. Polls were wrong obviously. His model is based on polling.

Silver was absolutely right and he took a lot of heat from Huffpo and others. The two big numbers he discussed was 1) commonality of 3 point polling errors and 2) the level of undecided (13%!) late in the game meant wide range for movement. Undecideds usually break for a challenger late in the game and in this election Hillary was essentially the encumbant. It was always a "change" election and the only question is whether those who wanted change would be willing to dive in with Trump. It is not more complicated then that.

yep...crazy election, glad it's fucking over

Godfather.

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

Godfather.

Congratulations to President elect Trump. I said to you and others this election was the republican's turn to power and that has come through. As for your words that the division of this country started under Obama (odd that you called him by his actual name for once) is garbage. Put aside your hatred of Obama for a bit.....it started under GWBUSH and continued through our current president. GF ask yourself this question is this country in a better position than it was in 2008?

Id love to hear what you have to say.

Peace

to be fair I said since Obama got elected, that does not mean division has not been around at other times in history
and your question, in my opinion it has gotten worse and to avoid argument I will just leave it right here, asking if it's hot California or hotter in Florida depends on who you talk to right ?

Godfather.

Jason P

I guess Colbert had a bummer of a night on Showtime

cp3iverson

A lot of people longed for someone who would revolutionize things and not be a traditional D or R. Not a typical politician, etc. Not the next person up to follow the establishment. well here he is. Probably not what people pictured but that change is here. Hope for the best and see what happens.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Jason P said:

I guess Colbert had a bummer of a night on Showtime

It's all fun and games for radlibs until...
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/07/media/john-oliver-donald-trump-election/index.html

They are all cut from the same cloth right down to stewart.
Laugh at your enemy but be quiet when the enemy is at your door.
One, two Trumps coming for you.

It really is incredible how hateful liberals are.
Not you personally in any way whatsoever.

Friday13

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WhatYouTaughtMe

cp3iverson said:

A lot of people longed for someone who would revolutionize things and not be a traditional D or R. Not a typical politician, etc. Not the next person up to follow the establishment. well here he is. Probably not what people pictured but that change is here. Hope for the best and see what happens.

They believed this guy was somehow anti establishment. They were conned. Giuliani, Newt, Christie, Cruz, and Paul Ryan are the guys that will be shaping policy the next few years. The only "change" is that one side has all the power now.

Friday13

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Cliffy6745

What happens now? Gotta love all this uncertainty.

Is Pence the power? Are we basically just getting Paul Ryan policy?

Are we going to start deporting people en masse?

Are we going to rip up trade deals?

Is he going to be the bombastic campaigner or the guy from last night?

Are we going to start torture back up?

Is Hillary getting prosecuted?

Are muslims going to be barred?

What happens with Medicare? Social Security?

Does the climate agreement get ripped up?

Godfather.

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PJfanwillneverleave1

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

cp3iverson said:

A lot of people longed for someone who would revolutionize things and not be a traditional D or R. Not a typical politician, etc. Not the next person up to follow the establishment. well here he is. Probably not what people pictured but that change is here. Hope for the best and see what happens.

They believed this guy was somehow anti establishment. They were conned. Giuliani, Newt, Christie, Cruz, and Paul Ryan are the guys that will be shaping policy the next few years. The only "change" is that one side has all the power now.

America gave him the power solidly.

Friday13

BUILD THAT WALL

BUILD THAT WALL

BUILD THAT WALL

WOOT WOOT WOOT

WALK WITH ME!

Go Beavers

Friday13 said:

BUILD THAT WALL

BUILD THAT WALL

BUILD THAT WALL

WOOT WOOT WOOT

WALK WITH ME!

Canada already started putting it up this morning.

Friday13

I SEE RED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN3jDPgWs2A

WOOT

Friday13

THE CANADIANS DIDN"T VOTE

PJfanwillneverleave1

Go Beavers said:

Friday13 said:

BUILD THAT WALL
WOOT WOOT WOOT
WALK WITH ME!

Canada already started putting it up this morning.

We now only allow legal entry.
Even if you don't support Trump we welcome you.
Kinda

g under p

Godfather. said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Congrats to Trump & his supporters I voted for HC not ashamed of it if I had to do it all over again I'd vote for her again ! This nation is totally divided

its been divided since Obama got elected, I believe the biggest voter turnout in history was because of the mess Obama put us in or at least failed to react to and when he did more often than not it was not good.

Godfather.

Congratulations to President elect Trump. I said to you and others this election was the republican's turn to power and that has come through. As for your words that the division of this country started under Obama (odd that you called him by his actual name for once) is garbage. Put aside your hatred of Obama for a bit.....it started under GWBUSH and continued through our current president. GF ask yourself this question is this country in a better position than it was in 2008?

Id love to hear what you have to say.

Peace

to be fair I said since Obama got elected, that does not mean division has not been around at other times in history
and your question, in my opinion it has gotten worse and to avoid argument I will just leave it right here, asking if it's hot California or hotter in Florida depends on who you talk to right ?

Godfather.

I totally disagree that this country is worse I know you now live here in Florida. When I first came here in 2006 there was nothing here out west in Palm Beach County. Farm land occupied by cows just so that owners could keep their lands. Now you can't find ANY open spaces of farm land its ALL been built up from economic growth. I have two jobs and could've another no time for more work. So I dont know where your thought process is that its gotten worse....easy to say from you due your disdain towards President Obama. You're still employed right?

Peace