Hillary won more votes for President
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I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.0 -
Glad to see you wouldn't encourage your son to cheat. Cheating is bad for our democracy and it's bad for our culture.rgambs said:
Yes, the debate questions are the only thing I have seen that actually constitutes cheating, and most everything else was way, way short.tonifig8 said:
So receiving questions in advance isn't cheating. Doesn't make you more prepared. You would say to your child write the answers on your hand. It's only cheating if you get caught. Well in this case it's never cheating.rgambs said:
Having an advantage isn't the same as cheating, my brother was 6'1 and 200lbs in the 7th grade, did he cheat when we went toe to toe? No, but he had an advantage so I learned how to wrestle so he couldn't punch my face off anymore.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
Of course it wasn't fair and neutral, grow up and accept it for cripes sake!
Fair is the place you go for cotton candy and neutral is a position on your transmission.
Got it.
No, my son won't be a cheater. If he can't win honestly he will lose with dignity.
Life is tough though, and sometimes you have to play rough, that's just how it goes. Sanders didn't play rough, the reason is probably not because he wouldn't, but because it wouldn't work.
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I just took 5 seconds to check youtube.CM189191 said:
Show me. Where did the DNC say they were neutral?tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Listen to what DWS says around second 41. Let us all know what you hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdA-rvy3tM 0 -
That's my question as well. Where exactly do the policy proposals of Bernie Sanders match up with the policy proposals of Trump? And not the "they can shake up the establishment" line. Sorry, that doesn't work.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.0 -
For a few minutes, I thought about doing the same-- as a way of saying, "Really, Democratic Party? Hillary is the best you could come up with in a year when the Republican Party has fallen to pieces?" Fortunately the Green Party came up with a fine candidate who I voted for by mail just yesterday.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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That makes more sense than voting for the anti choice, Healthcare, immigrant, candidate....simply out of spite. That's beyond selfish.brianlux said:
For a few minutes, I thought about doing the same-- as a way of saying, "Really, Democratic Party? Hillary is the best you could come up with in a year when the Republican Party has fallen to pieces?" Fortunately the Green Party came up with a fine candidate who I voted for by mail just yesterday.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.0 -
I voted Nader, got Bush elected. Now they nominate a true dipshit who may end up being worse than Bush. Didn't think that was possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A 0 -
I missed this reply.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
edit:
I also have balls.Post edited by Boxes&Books on0 -
Her voting record and the Clinton white house was progressive. That makes her progressive.tonifig8 said:
I missed this reply.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
edit:
I also have balls.0 -
What did Bill Clinton say about Heatlcare? Which President has deported the most undocumented immigrants?mrussel1 said:
That makes more sense than voting for the anti choice, Healthcare, immigrant, candidate....simply out of spite. That's beyond selfish.brianlux said:
For a few minutes, I thought about doing the same-- as a way of saying, "Really, Democratic Party? Hillary is the best you could come up with in a year when the Republican Party has fallen to pieces?" Fortunately the Green Party came up with a fine candidate who I voted for by mail just yesterday.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
I'm not doing it out of spite Or being selfish. It wouldn't be my fault if Trump wins... It would be yours and the rest of the crews fault.
This has been a hard and difficult process, but it's what's right and it's what makes more sense in the long run. I can't be afraid. The world will not change for me with or without any of these two candidates. I'll still pay over a grand for healthcarePost edited by Boxes&Books on0 -
"Progressive"mrussel1 said:
Her voting record and the Clinton white house was progressive. That makes her progressive.tonifig8 said:
I missed this reply.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
edit:
I also have balls.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
This logic is all over the place. Like two different people took turns writing ittonifig8 said:
I missed this reply.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
edit:
I also have balls.0 -
Bill tried in the 90s for progressive Healthcare Reform. Did you forget?tonifig8 said:
What did Bill Clinton say about Heatlcare? Which President has deported the most undocumented immigrants?mrussel1 said:
That makes more sense than voting for the anti choice, Healthcare, immigrant, candidate....simply out of spite. That's beyond selfish.brianlux said:
For a few minutes, I thought about doing the same-- as a way of saying, "Really, Democratic Party? Hillary is the best you could come up with in a year when the Republican Party has fallen to pieces?" Fortunately the Green Party came up with a fine candidate who I voted for by mail just yesterday.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
I'm not doing it out of spite Or being selfish. This has been a hard and difficult process, but it's what's right and it's what makes more sense in the long run. I can't be afraid. The world will not change for me with or without any of these two candidates. I'll still pay over a grand for healthcare
Ike deported the most I believe. Obama deported me than Bush.0 -
On one hand you repeat over and over how Clinton is being investigated by the FBI, on the other you claim Trump will be easier to impeach. Do you not see how incongrous your bias against Clinton has made your thoughts.tonifig8 said:
I missed this reply.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
edit:
I also have balls.
Impeachment doesn't mean replacement or overthrow, impeachment is when office holders are charged with offenses. If Clinton wins, she will essentially already be impeached.
Kaine '17Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
And who supports marriage equality? Not Trump.0
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I would agree that it takes "balls" to call yourself progressive while hoping Trump gets elected and then impeached. You realize that would possibly make Pence the president, right? How many "progressive" ideas do you think he will ram through if there is a republican majority in the house?tonifig8 said:
I missed this reply.mrussel1 said:
I can't believe that someone could vote for Trump after being a Bernie supporter. They are polar opposites politically. It makes me think that issues are irrelevant to you. It makes no sense rationally.tonifig8 said:
It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.mrussel1 said:
Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?tonifig8 said:
Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.mrussel1 said:
She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.tonifig8 said:
wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?rgambs said:
Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.tonifig8 said:
It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.rgambs said:
What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?tonifig8 said:
Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.rgambs said:
Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.tonifig8 said:
Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.CM189191 said:
No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.tonifig8 said:
This is the Hillary thread right?rgambs said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
Wow... Unbelievabletonifig8 said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761
DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.
HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected
DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.
HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?
DWS: I do.
HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.
DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.
HRC: capacity to raise the money?
DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.
HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?
DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.
HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us
DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.
HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?
DWS: Tracey.
How does this rate as noteworthy at all?
Oh, right, rigged.
Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.
Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
It's simple. One big factor is that I know who Donald Trump is. I have no fucking clue who Hillary Clinton is.
She isn't a progressive. She isn't honest. She claims to be all, but doesn't represent that, so I have no clue who she is.
Donald Trump will be much easier to impeach. Hillary on the other hand will probably be impossible. Look at all the fallout that is occuring because of Clinton. Look at the mess our govt is currently in, all because of Clinton and she hasn't even been elected yet.
The list is endless to be honest. All legitimate reasons. I donated to Jill S., a shit load to Sanders, and a shit load to Obama. I am a straight up progressive... So I'm not making this shit up.
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I also have balls.Post edited by WhatYouTaughtMe on0 -
Honest to God, if Trump wins, he better not getting fucking impeached. Pence scares me more than Trump.0
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Oh don't worry, I'm sure he would appoint the most progressive judges.ledvedderman said:Honest to God, if Trump wins, he better not getting fucking impeached. Pence scares me more than Trump.
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