Hillary won more votes for President

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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited November 2016
    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:
    That doesn't surprise me at all. Of course the fbi wants Trump so they can carry out his authoritarian directives. These releases are being done to sway the election.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    More anonymous sources and retired fbi? More like they love Trump. So corrupt, sad!
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited November 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    Having an advantage isn't the same as cheating, my brother was 6'1 and 200lbs in the 7th grade, did he cheat when we went toe to toe? No, but he had an advantage so I learned how to wrestle so he couldn't punch my face off anymore.

    Of course it wasn't fair and neutral, grow up and accept it for cripes sake!
    Fair is the place you go for cotton candy and neutral is a position on your transmission.

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I would tell my child that life isn't fair and people will try to cheat you at every turn.
    Keep your chin up, your whining to yourself and find a way to win honestly, damnit.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    Having an advantage isn't the same as cheating, my brother was 6'1 and 200lbs in the 7th grade, did he cheat when we went toe to toe? No, but he had an advantage so I learned how to wrestle so he couldn't punch my face off anymore.

    Of course it wasn't fair and neutral, grow up and accept it for cripes sake!
    Fair is the place you go for cotton candy and neutral is a position on your transmission.

    So receiving questions in advance isn't cheating. Doesn't make you more prepared. You would say to your child write the answers on your hand. It's only cheating if you get caught. Well in this case it's never cheating.

    Got it.
  • I'd tell my son to find a way to win if someone was cheating against him. Like others stated, life isn't fair.

  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.
    Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.

    They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
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    Wrong... A few soon to be terminated agents are right wing idiots.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    Having an advantage isn't the same as cheating, my brother was 6'1 and 200lbs in the 7th grade, did he cheat when we went toe to toe? No, but he had an advantage so I learned how to wrestle so he couldn't punch my face off anymore.

    Of course it wasn't fair and neutral, grow up and accept it for cripes sake!
    Fair is the place you go for cotton candy and neutral is a position on your transmission.

    So receiving questions in advance isn't cheating. Doesn't make you more prepared. You would say to your child write the answers on your hand. It's only cheating if you get caught. Well in this case it's never cheating.

    Got it.
    Yes, the debate questions are the only thing I have seen that actually constitutes cheating, and most everything else was way, way short.

    No, my son won't be a cheater. If he can't win honestly he will lose with dignity.
    Life is tough though, and sometimes you have to play rough, that's just how it goes. Sanders didn't play rough, the reason is probably not because he wouldn't, but because it wouldn't work.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.
    Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.

    They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
    Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?

    I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    Fair is the place you go for cotton candy and neutral is a position on your transmission.
    I love this.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517

    I'd tell my son to find a way to win if someone was cheating against him. Like others stated, life isn't fair.

    Seriously?
    You wouldn't tell him to stomp his feet and yell. ..."it's rigged" :anguished:
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918

    I'd tell my son to find a way to win if someone was cheating against him. Like others stated, life isn't fair.

    Seriously?
    You wouldn't tell him to stomp his feet and yell. ..."it's rigged" :anguished:
    If he lost, say a student council election, he would be wise to create snarky nicknames for the winner....like the Queen, or that Bitch. It's how you build support for future elections. It's how to build a movement .
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:

    CM189191 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    rgambs said:

    tonifig8 said:


    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44761

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call.

    HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected

    DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have.

    HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman?

    DWS: I do.

    HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president.

    DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc.

    HRC: capacity to raise the money?

    DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money.

    HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention?

    DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know.

    HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us

    DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf.

    HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this?

    DWS: Tracey.

    Wow... Unbelievable
    Seriously.

    How does this rate as noteworthy at all?

    Oh, right, rigged.
    This is the Hillary thread right?
    Forgot to ask ... Wasn't the DNC neutral? At of all people I would think germ would be upset by this stuff, considering he is a former BernieBro.
    No, The DNC is not neutral. Their job is to get democrats elected. And they're succeeding.
    Well that's not what was said to the public. Kind of like Hillary... Private policy and Public policy... It's hard to understand the expectations when they consistently do this. I'm not a fucking mind reader.

    And I'd hardly consider being neck and neck with Donald Fucking Trump "succeeding"
    Well now you know. Next time you can approach the elections from a more informed perspective.

    Also, do you have any evidence that DWS didn't send similar emails to the Sanders camp?
    Well now you know? That simple huh? After you fuck a gigantic group of voters.
    What voters? Everyone I know who liked Sanders voted for him. Do you know a bunch of people who were tricked into voting for Clinton by DWS? Did she trick you? No, so how did she screw you and your gigantic group of voters?

    Did the favoritism make a difference? Maybe. Millions of votes worth of difference? No.
    Obviously, no. It's a ridiculous premise.
    It's tactics... Dirty tactics that add up to votes. Setting dates for certain events, receiving questions in advance, collusion with the media, polling locations being distrupped by a former president, polling places sending people home, media giving a favorable spin, truck loads of money being poured in by special interest (which wasn't suppose to happen- remember Obama?), sending moles into sanders campaign, spending over 8 million and counting on social media, donations to the DNC being channeled into Clinton's chest, shutting out the voices of millions of supporters, not allowing votes to count in CA because of bullshit forms that went straight to the trash, different locations had different situations, the list is endless... Stop making it seems as if there was no foul play! Just because you want to defend that turd- be honest about it. All of that shit adds up to votes and the facts are out there. Right in front of your face, yet you want to act as if it's insignificant.
    DNC said they would remain neutral and give the process an equal/fair shot.

    Bunch of BS. Am I right? Be the bigger person and own up to it. Stop making excuses. It gets old having to repeat this shit
    Did you get to vote for Sanders? I did.

    All the rest is noise. You wouldn't credit it as the reason Sanders won if he did, but you will credit it for a loss.
    wouod you tell a child that it's ok to cheat? Or do you tell them it's just noise?

    Why don't you admit that it wasn't a fair and neutral process? Why don't you own up to it instead of simply making excuse after excuse after excuse. There's a reason why DWS resigned.
    She resigned because she became politically untenable. I don't anyone here is saying the DNC was fair and neutral. The difference is you expect them to be...others don't.
    Oh you're back huh? Well this discussion took off into something else, as usual. But for the record the DNC stated, just as Obama did, that they would remain neutral. That's exactly what we expected, but it's not what happened.

    They did what they had to do in order to win. That includes receiving questions in advance. I hope that was a proud moment for you and your daughters.
    Pretty sure my 8 year old doesn't give a damn about it, to be frank. In fact, neither do I. Bernie wasn't a member of the damn party, never campaigned, never raised funds, etc. So why would anyone expect neutrality?

    I don't see how this still chaps your ass so badly after all this time.
    It doesn't chap me one bit. What chaps me would be the fact that someone can't man up and own it. I moved on a long time ago, like so many other berniebros, and as I stated I'm voting for Trump. So I've clearly moved on. The convo was brought up because of a wikileak- then a couple of you guys went back into the topic of the primaries. You could either have taken the leak for what it was of you could start making a bunch of excuses. A long time ago you said you felt a sense of pride when Clinton became the nominee, which is why I brought up the whole thing about being proud and telling your daughter about how Clinton cheated.

    It's very simple. The DNC said they would stay out of it and let the better person win. The results are the results, but let's not overlook the truth. That's about it. I'm not wrong here, I'm not chapped over sanders, and I'm not making excuses. They colluded and she won.
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