Hillary won more votes for President

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.

You know nothing John Snow.

The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.

Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat

You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.

I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.

We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it

Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.

You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

peace.

Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.

Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.

People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.

Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...

The Bush administration had a private server and conveniently "lost" 22 MILLION (MILLION !) emails when congress was investigating their firing of multiple us attorneys for political reasons.

Please express your outrage over that.

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

igotid88 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFOkBnYGfIM&feature=share

If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
- Louis CK

I'd say that pretty well sums it up.

I guess I am an asshole.

Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.

I figured you were called racist because you were concerned about the white race being watered down due to intermingling.

If you're going to make a statement about me at least get your fucking facts right.

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.

You know nothing John Snow.

The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.

Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat

You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.

I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.

We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it

Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.

You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

peace.

Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.

Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.

People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.

Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...

The Bush administration had a private server and conveniently "lost" 22 MILLION (MILLION !) emails when congress was investigating their firing of multiple us attorneys for political reasons.

Please express your outrage over that.

No the Bush administration did not have a private server. The Republican National Committee had a private server and some staffers and advisers used this system with the most notable being Karl Rove. This server was legal and could be used for non-classified government business as long as those using it adhered to federal record keeping laws. Now that being said you are correct and on occasion those record keeping laws were not followed which led to the accusation that 22 million emails were deleted. The RNC cooperated however and helped transfer as many government related emails as possible from whatever backups existed. This was not difficult to do because the hard drives and backups weren't bleach bit or damaged to the point of irretrievability. So while I have "outrage" for poor record keeping practice this situation is quite a bit different from a sitting secretary of state setting up her own server for the full purpose of conducting government and personal business at the same time including business that involved classified information. There are apples and there are oranges.

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.

You know nothing John Snow.

The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.

Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat

You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.

I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.

We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it

Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.

You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

peace.

Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.

Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.

People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.

Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...

Yep it's all in your own mind ..

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.

You know nothing John Snow.

The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.

Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat

You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.

I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.

We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it

Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.

You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

peace.

Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.

Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.

People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.

Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...

Avoid transparency? How in the name of christ has she down that?

Do you even follow events? Again...I told you to go watch the Comey testimony to congress in full before weighing in on this topic. You would then have the answers to your above questions.

Yeah I do...I follow events and steer clear of right wing bullshit.

Oh...so Comey's testimony was "right wing bullshit". Gotcha.

Just your interpretation

No interpretation necessary. His testimony was straightforward. As I've said before to someone else your argument would be better if you just said you were indifferent but your denial of the obvious is just sad.

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

igotid88 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFOkBnYGfIM&feature=share

If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up.
If you vote for Trump you're a sucker.
If you don't vote for anyone you're an asshole.
- Louis CK

I'd say that pretty well sums it up.

I guess I am an asshole.

Oh, and a racist too. Can't forget to let the libs call me that because I don't agree with 98% of their policies. Gotta let them have that talking point because they can't logically argue their policies.

I figured you were called racist because you were concerned about the white race being watered down due to intermingling.

If you're going to make a statement about me at least get your fucking facts right.

My facts are right.

You bore me. Call me what you want, I really don't care. It is the typical liberal talking point when they can't argue their policies. It doesn't change the fact that if the policies were so good but they can't be implemented without the threat of force.

I said it was the Democrat policy to end the white race. It still is. Saying a fact doesn't make someone a racist, coming up with terms like white guilt and white privilege does.

pjalive21 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

tonifig8 said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

LOL, people that are ready for this actually have places away from cities. Yep, people are going to die. This system is unsustainable.

And no, I don't live in Chicago, I'm not a freaking idiot.

Now I have a better understanding about your beliefs about racial purity.

You know nothing John Snow.

The segregation around that area breeds cultural ignorance unless the person really makes an effort to overcome it. When they don't do that, the ignorance really fuels fear.

Let's keep the convo on important matters, right Kat

You don't think racism is an important issue? It's been an underlying theme for awhile now, since we've heard from politicians that we need to "take our country back", and that Trump had said blatantly racist things and also draws a high level of support from white supremacists.

I absolutely do. I'm Hispanic and a diehard progressive, so you could understand why I might care about it just a little more.
Personally I just don't think one member's opinion on here is more important then this election.
Trump might be supported by racist, but they aren't enough to defeat us. Also, if said member wants to preserve a race of people, that's fine with me, if said member wants to protect the law and boarders that's also fine with me.

But I get where you're coming from and I remember the exchange that occurred. It was heated and I do find myself on your side, but we're about to elect a crook. We're about to really fuck up our society(and I don't mean the end of the world), why? Because the majority of people truly dislike these candidates and there's going to be some serious outrage once one of these crooks is elected. This is more then right vs left...our whole system has been exposed and we're disgusted with what we're witnessing. A majority of us have lost complete faith in our system and we're now pissed about it!
Look at the shit JC is posting and tell me with an honest heart that you are proud of your candidate.

We're about to elect a crook? And you are voting for Trump.....got it

Yes, I am voting for Trump. Yes, he is a crook. It makes me sick that I'm doing so, but I do believe he'll be much easier to impeach. He wont have the DOJ, FBI, and Media protecting him. Most republicans don't even like him. We'll then get Mike Pence, which means that you'll continue to have all this free time to read about politics and watch youtube videos... that's not such a bad outlook for you.

Pence is still worse than Hillary. And yes, the hype is manufactured when the same things have happened in the past and hardly anyone gave a poop.

You're generalizing. And, yes, many of us did give a poop. As a matter of fact someone threw their shoe a GWB. We gave a poop then and we give a poop now.

Read some of the content JC is posting. Read it with an open mind. It helps get a better understanding of the reality that exist.

peace.

Generalizing isn't the right word. I'm making an observation. The left hated Bush after he was in office primarily for war crimes. There was minimal outrage for his shady connections, slimy campaign tactics, or bazillions of missing emails. The complaints about Hillary are blown up and hyped when you put it in historic context. A lot of people are outraged because they're being told to be outraged.

Not blown up and hyped. All real. Just say you're indifferent to it. Would be a much easier argument for you to make.

People are told it's a big deal, so they think it's a big deal. The lack of attention given to the same issues in the past said that it wasn't a big deal. The only thing real are the facts. People's responses are real, but not in a factual sense, but in the subjective sense. I'm giving my reaction to it, and it's not indifference.

Oh...so I only think it's a big deal because I was told it's a big deal. A private server was set up by a secretary of state so that she could avoid transperancy laws while selling influence through her foundation and jeopardized national security in the process. That has not been done before and it is a big deal. Nobody needed to tell me that to know it and I will hold the candle...

The Bush administration had a private server and conveniently "lost" 22 MILLION (MILLION !) emails when congress was investigating their firing of multiple us attorneys for political reasons.

Please express your outrage over that.

Blame Bush the go to desperation move.....Then Bill Clinton is fair game then, when told by you guys that he wasn't because he wasn't running for office, well neither is Bush....so we can have our cake and eat it too then?

This is an issue currently happening not something that happened over 8 years ago

it's not "blame bush". it's pointing out that it wasn't a big fucking deal then, so why is it now? dems didn't care then, they don't care now. republicans do for some reason, only this time around though.

Bill is a different animal. the right is bringing his shit up in order to make people believe that if hillary wins, that somehow he it's a puppet regime. he is not, and will not be de facto POTUS. it's an underhanded tactic made to skew the view of the ignorant/paranoid voter. and it's pretty sexist. never heard anyone accuse a first lady of being a risk to the policies of her husband as POTUS. to suggest he will somehow "take over" is pretty offensive.