Hillary won more votes for President
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the 1% will never pay more in taxes...and someway, somehow if that every happened if you think they wont line their pockets back up by making us pay for the difference then i don't know what to tell youGern Blansten said:
Excuse me....when you are a 1%er that takes positions that makes the 1%ers pay MORE in taxes, etc. that is far more honest than the 1%er that wants to cut his own taxes.Free said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what I keep finding amusing is that one side claims the other side is so much worse and underhanded than the other. give me a break. THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS. if you think one side is better than the other, you are a fool. it comes down to nothing more than voting for whomever you think won't nuke the planet.Free said:
Why talk about things that are unpleasant to her supporters?tonifig8 said:
Why Don't we talk about how the DNC helped rig the primaries? And as soon as the DWS resigned HRC hired her on. Why don't we talk about how Clinton received debate questions in advance of the debate?Kat said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
And thanks for that brain image above. That's just sad...but funny too.
Have a great week, everyone.
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To tell you this but the Dems are just as bad. You got to candidates and both of them are the 1% and they represent the 1%. You're not fooling anyone.Gern Blansten said:
Not necessarily...I'm saying that the right has to lie/deceive in order to pull people to their team.HughFreakingDillon said:so you think liars lean right? I can't say I agree with that.
Why else would a working class family vote republican? The republicans are the ones that want to privatize social security, get rid of the ACA, cut taxes for the wealthy, etc. on the backs of the middle class. They convince the middle class voters by frightening them with big government, terrorism, welfare state, immigrants, etc. (I should also add..."taking away your guns", "war against christianity")
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What in gods name are you talking about? The 1% pay more now than they did when Obama took office. They will pay more in 2016 and 2017 as well.pjalive21 said:
the 1% will never pay more in taxes...and someway, somehow if that every happened if you think they wont line their pockets back up by making us pay for the difference then i don't know what to tell youGern Blansten said:
Excuse me....when you are a 1%er that takes positions that makes the 1%ers pay MORE in taxes, etc. that is far more honest than the 1%er that wants to cut his own taxes.Free said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what I keep finding amusing is that one side claims the other side is so much worse and underhanded than the other. give me a break. THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS. if you think one side is better than the other, you are a fool. it comes down to nothing more than voting for whomever you think won't nuke the planet.Free said:
Why talk about things that are unpleasant to her supporters?tonifig8 said:
Why Don't we talk about how the DNC helped rig the primaries? And as soon as the DWS resigned HRC hired her on. Why don't we talk about how Clinton received debate questions in advance of the debate?Kat said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
And thanks for that brain image above. That's just sad...but funny too.
Have a great week, everyone.
Awwwwww
To tell you this but the Dems are just as bad. You got to candidates and both of them are the 1% and they represent the 1%. You're not fooling anyone.Gern Blansten said:
Not necessarily...I'm saying that the right has to lie/deceive in order to pull people to their team.HughFreakingDillon said:so you think liars lean right? I can't say I agree with that.
Why else would a working class family vote republican? The republicans are the ones that want to privatize social security, get rid of the ACA, cut taxes for the wealthy, etc. on the backs of the middle class. They convince the middle class voters by frightening them with big government, terrorism, welfare state, immigrants, etc. (I should also add..."taking away your guns", "war against christianity")
Wake up
Do you need me to give you links to the fucking tax brackets that are available for anyone with google to see?
Clinton has discussed raising taxes and also lifting the social security wage cap....inform yourself pleaseRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Apparently I am more wide-awake than you are. You apologize for Hillary. You have never had one critical word for her. She is a 1%er Who changed rule so she could take big money for her campaign. She screwed another candidate out of winning. She cheated by paying superdelegates.Gern Blansten said:
Excuse me....when you are a 1%er that takes positions that makes the 1%ers pay MORE in taxes, etc. that is far more honest than the 1%er that wants to cut his own taxes.Free said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what I keep finding amusing is that one side claims the other side is so much worse and underhanded than the other. give me a break. THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS. if you think one side is better than the other, you are a fool. it comes down to nothing more than voting for whomever you think won't nuke the planet.Free said:
Why talk about things that are unpleasant to her supporters?tonifig8 said:
Why Don't we talk about how the DNC helped rig the primaries? And as soon as the DWS resigned HRC hired her on. Why don't we talk about how Clinton received debate questions in advance of the debate?Kat said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
And thanks for that brain image above. That's just sad...but funny too.
Have a great week, everyone.
Awwwwww
To tell you this but the Dems are just as bad. You got to candidates and both of them are the 1% and they represent the 1%. You're not fooling anyone.Gern Blansten said:
Not necessarily...I'm saying that the right has to lie/deceive in order to pull people to their team.HughFreakingDillon said:so you think liars lean right? I can't say I agree with that.
Why else would a working class family vote republican? The republicans are the ones that want to privatize social security, get rid of the ACA, cut taxes for the wealthy, etc. on the backs of the middle class. They convince the middle class voters by frightening them with big government, terrorism, welfare state, immigrants, etc. (I should also add..."taking away your guns", "war against christianity")
Wake up
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Is my statement correct or not? Don't avoid it....we both know you're wrong.Free said:
Apparently I am more wide-awake than you are. You apologize for Hillary. I have never had one critical word for her. She is a 1%er Who changed rule so she could take big money for her campaign. She screwed another candidate out of winning. She cheated by paying superdelegates.Gern Blansten said:
Excuse me....when you are a 1%er that takes positions that makes the 1%ers pay MORE in taxes, etc. that is far more honest than the 1%er that wants to cut his own taxes.Free said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what I keep finding amusing is that one side claims the other side is so much worse and underhanded than the other. give me a break. THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS. if you think one side is better than the other, you are a fool. it comes down to nothing more than voting for whomever you think won't nuke the planet.Free said:
Why talk about things that are unpleasant to her supporters?tonifig8 said:
Why Don't we talk about how the DNC helped rig the primaries? And as soon as the DWS resigned HRC hired her on. Why don't we talk about how Clinton received debate questions in advance of the debate?Kat said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
And thanks for that brain image above. That's just sad...but funny too.
Have a great week, everyone.
Awwwwww
To tell you this but the Dems are just as bad. You got to candidates and both of them are the 1% and they represent the 1%. You're not fooling anyone.Gern Blansten said:
Not necessarily...I'm saying that the right has to lie/deceive in order to pull people to their team.HughFreakingDillon said:so you think liars lean right? I can't say I agree with that.
Why else would a working class family vote republican? The republicans are the ones that want to privatize social security, get rid of the ACA, cut taxes for the wealthy, etc. on the backs of the middle class. They convince the middle class voters by frightening them with big government, terrorism, welfare state, immigrants, etc. (I should also add..."taking away your guns", "war against christianity")
Wake up
So wake up yourself.
And actually you have had many critical words for her.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
… And yet another person needs to remind you that she's being investigated by the FBI I not once but twice weeks before the election. Yeah she's looking really good.0
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Prompted by whom? It wouldn't have anything to do with the GOP would it?Free said:… And yet another person needs to remind you that she's being investigated by the FBI I not once but twice weeks before the election. Yeah she's looking really good.
Are you putting as much effort in the Trump thread over his legal issues? Do you know what those issues are?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.0
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And it is obvious that you are so blinded by your hatred that you can't think straight. You're babbling.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
That's all you've got. We know already.Gern Blansten said:
And it is obvious that you are so blinded by your hatred that you can't think straight. You're babbling.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
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Isn't push polling illegal now? Take a look at this Gravis survey for PA. The questions are laughable. It still has Clinton up by a couple but what they do is read the questions in different orders to bias the sample. It's clever but it really walks a fine line in that activity.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Gravis_PA_October_31st_2016.pdf0 -
Why did the dems vote in Hillary in the first place? Did they really believe the emails issues would just sort of, you know, go away? I still think she will win this election but this re-investigation by the FBI could do possibly do her in. The Guardian seems to think this is still a possibility. I don't think Trump will win but if he does I think some of the blame HAS to be placed on dems making POOR CHOICES!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/30/hillary-clinton-lose-election-fbi-email-investigation"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
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People will realize shortly after the election that Trump was in it for nothing more than selfish reasons, not because he ever wanted to lead this country.Go Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
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the delusion is to think that one of these is better than the otherGo Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
seriously listen to everyone...we are trying to convince one another that our bad guy is less bad than the other0 -
Agreed....I don't see how a rational person could think otherwise.Go Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Well....there were only two other people that wanted to challenge her in the primaries.brianlux said:Why did the dems vote in Hillary in the first place? Did they really believe the emails issues would just sort of, you know, go away? I still think she will win this election but this re-investigation by the FBI could do possibly do her in. The Guardian seems to think this is still a possibility. I don't think Trump will win but if he does I think some of the blame HAS to be placed on dems making POOR CHOICES!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/30/hillary-clinton-lose-election-fbi-email-investigation
One could argue that the email issue was a bust. I could be wrong...maybe they'll find a bombshell but something tells me they won't.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Gern Blansten said:
Agreed....I don't see how a rational person could think otherwise.Go Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
pjalive21 said:
the delusion is to think that one of these is better than the otherGo Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
seriously listen to everyone...we are trying to convince one another that our bad guy is less bad than the other0 -
Trump may be worse, I will give you that, but like I said earlier, it's like saying I'd rather be beaten to death by a ball peen hammer than a sledge hammer. Worse than bad is still bad. Both are poor choices. Really not sure why that isn't more broadly acknowledged in this election.Gern Blansten said:
Agreed....I don't see how a rational person could think otherwise.Go Beavers said:
I think Trump is worse than Clinton, and that's not a delusion.Free said:It's obvious you make yourself feel better by looking at the other bad guy and swearing that he's worse. When really It's all sweet delusion.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
No, even if both are bad, one is always going to be better or worse than the other. It is a mathematical truth. And in this case, one is WAY better than the other, and in your own view, one is WAY better than the other because she is much less likely to nuke the planet.HughFreakingDillon said:
what I keep finding amusing is that one side claims the other side is so much worse and underhanded than the other. give me a break. THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS. if you think one side is better than the other, you are a fool. it comes down to nothing more than voting for whomever you think won't nuke the planet.Free said:
Why talk about things that are unpleasant to her supporters?tonifig8 said:
Why Don't we talk about how the DNC helped rig the primaries? And as soon as the DWS resigned HRC hired her on. Why don't we talk about how Clinton received debate questions in advance of the debate?Kat said:
Seriously.Gern Blansten said:
And thanks for that brain image above. That's just sad...but funny too.
Have a great week, everyone.
AwwwwwwWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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