National Athem Singers Now Taking Knees...

lukin2006
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Watch: Heat national anthem singer takes knee, wears Black Lives Matter shirt

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/10/21/miami-heat-national-anthem-singer-kneels-black-lives-matter-shirt

Kings national anthem singer takes knee during performance

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/10/11/sacramento-kings-national-anthem-singer-takes-knee-video

Kind of ridiculous, then decline to sing the national athem...turn down the pay...
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Nothing ridiculous about it. It's the most basic form of peaceful protest. I know many of you, including myself, have issues with the BLM movement. Would you rather they protest like this, or take it to the streets like they've done in many cities in the past?
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Degeneratefk said:

    Nothing ridiculous about it. It's the most basic form of peaceful protest. I know many of you, including myself, have issues with the BLM movement. Would you rather they protest like this, or take it to the streets like they've done in many cities in the past?

    isn't volunteering to sing the anthem then protesting it at the same time kind of hypocritical? it makes them look ridiculous
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    pjalive21 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Nothing ridiculous about it. It's the most basic form of peaceful protest. I know many of you, including myself, have issues with the BLM movement. Would you rather they protest like this, or take it to the streets like they've done in many cities in the past?

    isn't volunteering to sing the anthem then protesting it at the same time kind of hypocritical? it makes them look ridiculous
    no, it's saying "I love my country, but improvements are needed, stop ignoring them".
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    You had one job ...
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    pjalive21 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Nothing ridiculous about it. It's the most basic form of peaceful protest. I know many of you, including myself, have issues with the BLM movement. Would you rather they protest like this, or take it to the streets like they've done in many cities in the past?

    isn't volunteering to sing the anthem then protesting it at the same time kind of hypocritical? it makes them look ridiculous
    yes it does
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    It doesn't bother me ..
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    reminds me of little kids screaming in the front yard because dad said you have get your chores done before you go play.

    Godfather.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Singing the praises of a country... while at the same time protesting it.

    The ultimate selfie: "Watch me. Watch me. Get ready everybody. Sshh. Get ready. Here it comes. See me? See me? My knee is down like that QB on that team. And now listen to my awesomeness. Ouch. F**k me. My knee hurts. This floor is hard. Oh yeah. Black lives matter. Vote Hillary."

    But it doesn't really bug me. People have looked much stupider doing much less. It's actually become comical to me.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Godfather. said:

    reminds me of little kids screaming in the front yard because dad said you have get your chores done before you go play.

    Godfather.

    you haven't the slightest idea of the plight of the minority, obviously.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited October 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Singing the praises of a country... while at the same time protesting it.

    The ultimate selfie: "Watch me. Watch me. Get ready everybody. Sshh. Get ready. Here it comes. See me? See me? My knee is down like that QB on that team. And now listen to my awesomeness. Ouch. F**k me. My knee hurts. This floor is hard. Oh yeah. Black lives matter. Vote Hillary."

    But it doesn't really bug me. People have looked much stupider doing much less. It's actually become comical to me.

    Exactly, if you feel that bad about your country then don't represent the country by singing the anthem.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    reminds me of little kids screaming in the front yard because dad said you have get your chores done before you go play.

    Godfather.

    you haven't the slightest idea of the plight of the minority, obviously.
    and you do ? shall I break out my violin for a spoiled football player ?

    Godfather.

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
    It's bringing divisiveness
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Godfather. said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    reminds me of little kids screaming in the front yard because dad said you have get your chores done before you go play.

    Godfather.

    you haven't the slightest idea of the plight of the minority, obviously.
    and you do ? shall I break out my violin for a spoiled football player ?

    Godfather.

    um, yeah, I do.

    he's not doing this for himself, no matter what people say. he's bringing awareness to a national problem. he's making a statement for those who don't have that platform.

    he's not expecting your violin. he's hoping people like you will stop saying "get over it" and actually do something positive for a change instead of spreading hate and ignorance.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
    It's bringing divisiveness
    Do you have an effective way to measure this divisiveness? I see divisiveness coming from people who are in denial about racism in our country and want to minimize it's effects. Their defensiveness creates the divisiveness.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    edited October 2016
    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
    It's bringing divisiveness
    Do you have an effective way to measure this divisiveness? I see divisiveness coming from people who are in denial about racism in our country and want to minimize it's effects. Their defensiveness creates the divisiveness.
    you can be against people kneeling for the National Anthem but not be in denial about racism. As I've said before I don't think it's appropriate to do this during the National Anthem but by saying that I surely am not advocating that there aren't racial issues to be addressed in this country. the two do not go hand-in-hand.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    pjhawks said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
    It's bringing divisiveness
    Do you have an effective way to measure this divisiveness? I see divisiveness coming from people who are in denial about racism in our country and want to minimize it's effects. Their defensiveness creates the divisiveness.
    you can be against people kneeling for the National Anthem but not be in denial about racism. As I've said before I don't think it's appropriate to do this during the National Anthem but by saying that I surely am not advocating that there aren't racial issues to be addressed in this country. the two do not go hand-in-hand.
    I agree, and being against them kneeling doesn't mean you're being divisive. My point is that divisiveness isn't created by the protest, it's created by the person responding divisively.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Go Beavers said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Jason P said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    seems that the idea of peaceful protest is lost on many of you. if you don't protest on a stage where people see you, it has zero effect. pretty simple.

    So how is the kneeling working? Any metrics established yet to track effectiveness?
    well, this thread for one. one website whose main function has nothing to do with sports or politics. it wouldn't exist without it. it's called bringing awareness.
    It's bringing divisiveness
    Do you have an effective way to measure this divisiveness? I see divisiveness coming from people who are in denial about racism in our country and want to minimize it's effects. Their defensiveness creates the divisiveness.
    It's not a denial of racism. People find it disrespectful, thus they won't be swayed to side with whatever point protesters are trying to make. Same thing when people think it's wise to shut down traffic to bring awareness. How many people are going to side with them while stewing away in anger on a freeway?

    There must be wiser and more effective ways to bring about change. Pissing people off clearly isn't working.
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