PJ meets with Hillary

brianlux said:

Go Beavers said:

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

The only people who want war never end up going to war...




When the war ended, I don't know if I was more relieved that we'd won or that I didn't have to go back. Passchendaele was a disastrous battle – thousands and thousands of young lives were lost. It makes me angry. Earlier this year, I went back to Ypres to shake the hand of Charles Kuentz, Germany's only surviving veteran from the war. It was emotional. He is 107. We've had 87 years to think what war is. To me, it's a licence to go out and murder. Why should the British government call me up and take me out to a battlefield to shoot a man I never knew, whose language I couldn't speak? All those lives lost for a war finished over a table. Now what is the sense in that?[11]

— Harry Patch

Great words. Absolutely fucking great. Do you suppose Hillary or Trump would agree with Mr. Patch?

I think we already know how Trumps feels about Harry Patch.

No doubt, GB. I know my question is rather obviously rhetorical. What I don't understand is, with the ability today to disseminate information as widely as we do and with the facts of history plain to see and with the knowledge of the futility of war, why on gods green earth can we not have leaders who are opposed to war, in favor of finding more reasonable solutions and taking care of the planet that sustains us. Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so. That is why I HAVE to vote for Jill Stein.

After I did a little research I agree she might be the best candidate...

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

Go Beavers said:

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

The only people who want war never end up going to war...




When the war ended, I don't know if I was more relieved that we'd won or that I didn't have to go back. Passchendaele was a disastrous battle – thousands and thousands of young lives were lost. It makes me angry. Earlier this year, I went back to Ypres to shake the hand of Charles Kuentz, Germany's only surviving veteran from the war. It was emotional. He is 107. We've had 87 years to think what war is. To me, it's a licence to go out and murder. Why should the British government call me up and take me out to a battlefield to shoot a man I never knew, whose language I couldn't speak? All those lives lost for a war finished over a table. Now what is the sense in that?[11]

— Harry Patch

Great words. Absolutely fucking great. Do you suppose Hillary or Trump would agree with Mr. Patch?

I think we already know how Trumps feels about Harry Patch.

No doubt, GB. I know my question is rather obviously rhetorical. What I don't understand is, with the ability today to disseminate information as widely as we do and with the facts of history plain to see and with the knowledge of the futility of war, why on gods green earth can we not have leaders who are opposed to war, in favor of finding more reasonable solutions and taking care of the planet that sustains us. Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so. That is why I HAVE to vote for Jill Stein.

After I did a little research I agree she might be the best candidate...

She's out there mixing in with the real world. Her next stop is Poland. The others take their planes full of "professional journalists" and fly around doing this song and dance bullshit. Stein is down here in the real world. And she's very smart. That's good enough for me.

I have to agree...

Too bad more people don't think along your lines, she's smart, if she could get elected she'd figure it out...

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

brianlux said:

Go Beavers said:

brianlux said:

lukin2006 said:

The only people who want war never end up going to war...




When the war ended, I don't know if I was more relieved that we'd won or that I didn't have to go back. Passchendaele was a disastrous battle – thousands and thousands of young lives were lost. It makes me angry. Earlier this year, I went back to Ypres to shake the hand of Charles Kuentz, Germany's only surviving veteran from the war. It was emotional. He is 107. We've had 87 years to think what war is. To me, it's a licence to go out and murder. Why should the British government call me up and take me out to a battlefield to shoot a man I never knew, whose language I couldn't speak? All those lives lost for a war finished over a table. Now what is the sense in that?[11]

— Harry Patch

Great words. Absolutely fucking great. Do you suppose Hillary or Trump would agree with Mr. Patch?

I think we already know how Trumps feels about Harry Patch.

No doubt, GB. I know my question is rather obviously rhetorical. What I don't understand is, with the ability today to disseminate information as widely as we do and with the facts of history plain to see and with the knowledge of the futility of war, why on gods green earth can we not have leaders who are opposed to war, in favor of finding more reasonable solutions and taking care of the planet that sustains us. Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so. That is why I HAVE to vote for Jill Stein.

After I did a little research I agree she might be the best candidate...

She's out there mixing in with the real world. Her next stop is Poland. The others take their planes full of "professional journalists" and fly around doing this song and dance bullshit. Stein is down here in the real world. And she's very smart. That's good enough for me.

One might argue that this might be the reason she is nowhere near being a viable candidate for president though... I'm not blaming that on her, but honestly, if you're looking for reasons why she will get almost no votes you have to compare what she does to what the main candidates do. So the question is, how do you change the system so that what Stein is doing will get her votes, or how do you want Stein to change so that she can get votes? I don't think she could at all do what she's currently doing if she were actually a viable candidate, and not just because the system is "rigged". I think plenty of that blame lands directly on the American population. Chicken and the egg kind of dilemma. Or damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I just think Harry Patch is a fantastic name.

JC29856 said:

Degeneratefk said:

Why does it bother you people who Pearl Jam endorses politically? Is it really that surprising that they endorse clinton? Does that make their music any less good? So odd.

Doesn't make their music any less but I think some can question the lyrics and the passion about certain subjects. People change and so do their views perspectives.
I wonder if Kurt was onto something I wonder if he would have evolved towards Ed or remained like Morello.

Kurt wouldn't give a fuck..

He seemed really self-absorbed to me. Some good tunes, but I prefer the Pearl Jams.