U.S. lawmakers demand information on EpiPen price increase

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    'Just Cut the Price': Consumer Groups Unimpressed With EpiPen Generic

    "Today's announcement is just one more convoluted mechanism to avoid plain talk [and] admit to price gouging," Public Citizen said.

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/08/29/just-cut-price-consumer-groups-unimpressed-epipen-generic
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    https://www.minds.com/blog/view/625077755582623755

    Hacker group creates $30 DIY Epipen to expose corporate greed and save lives
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Don't worry, Trump is going to bomb the shit of the bees
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited September 2016
    Free said:
    Not sure what context you say that in. "Public shaming" has a particular feel to it.... are you glad she and the company are being called out, or are you suggesting this shouldn't have happened?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited September 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:
    Not sure what context you say that in. "Public shaming" has a particular feel to it.... are you glad she and the company are being called out, or are you suggesting this shouldn't have happened?
    Let's all hear what you think.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:
    Not sure what context you say that in. "Public shaming" has a particular feel to it.... are you glad she and the company are being called out, or are you suggesting this shouldn't have happened?
    Let's all hear what you think.
    ... are you not going to answer my question? It was an honest one.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Just today I found out that there is also an auto injector for naloxone, also known as Narcan. Naloxone is used to reverse opiate overdose and is a lifesaving medication. The kits with a vial of naloxone and a syringe continue to be cheap, but they require people to be trained how to use them, and in an emergency it can be very difficult for someone to remember how to use the syringe, draw up the medication, inject it correctly, etc. So now there is an auto injector of naloxone which could be used by anyone, without any training, to save the life of someone with an overdose of heroin, fentanyl, oxycodone, and the like.

    What's the cost, you ask?

    $3,700 per two dose kit. For a commonly available, inexpensive drug.

    How can they possibly justify this?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583
    Smellyman said:

    Don't worry, Trump is going to bomb the shit of the bees

    :rofl:
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    Just today I found out that there is also an auto injector for naloxone, also known as Narcan. Naloxone is used to reverse opiate overdose and is a lifesaving medication. The kits with a vial of naloxone and a syringe continue to be cheap, but they require people to be trained how to use them, and in an emergency it can be very difficult for someone to remember how to use the syringe, draw up the medication, inject it correctly, etc. So now there is an auto injector of naloxone which could be used by anyone, without any training, to save the life of someone with an overdose of heroin, fentanyl, oxycodone, and the like.

    What's the cost, you ask?

    $3,700 per two dose kit. For a commonly available, inexpensive drug.

    How can they possibly justify this?

    Holy shit.

    Something simple to use that can save a life right then and there? At that cost?

    Unjustifiable.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    hedonist said:

    Just today I found out that there is also an auto injector for naloxone, also known as Narcan. Naloxone is used to reverse opiate overdose and is a lifesaving medication. The kits with a vial of naloxone and a syringe continue to be cheap, but they require people to be trained how to use them, and in an emergency it can be very difficult for someone to remember how to use the syringe, draw up the medication, inject it correctly, etc. So now there is an auto injector of naloxone which could be used by anyone, without any training, to save the life of someone with an overdose of heroin, fentanyl, oxycodone, and the like.

    What's the cost, you ask?

    $3,700 per two dose kit. For a commonly available, inexpensive drug.

    How can they possibly justify this?

    Holy shit.

    Something simple to use that can save a life right then and there? At that cost?

    Unjustifiable.
    It is unjustifiable. Earlier this year Seattle bicycle cops started carrying Narcan, and I believe at least 10 lives have been saved by SPD since this went into effect, reversing the affect of opiod overdose. I wonder if this crazy pricing scheme was set up to take advantage of municipalities and public agencies that are starting or running similar programs.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    I don't think it should be that much but I'd have to research a bit before deciding how much the injector should be. It looks to be a brand of narcan

    How about those fucking scumbag republicans who want to block narcan use because it promotes drug use?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    Yeah, I won't immediately say that's outrageous because I don't know what kind of technology goes into these auto injectors, or who is actually responsible for making it cost so much. I know that it is fucking amazing that the Naloxone kits are being handed out for FREE to hundreds of sites in metro Vancouver, and I've heard of a ton of training/info sessions where the public can go and get a kit for free too.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Become a junkie and OD, lifr saving kits are available free, develope an allergy that might someday require the use of a epipen victim of greed, price gauging and big pharma, sounds par for the course...
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    lukin2006 said:

    Become a junkie and OD, lifr saving kits are available free, develope an allergy that might someday require the use of a epipen victim of greed, price gauging and big pharma, sounds par for the course...

    That's a gov't issue. Someone is paying for the narcan
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    lukin2006 said:

    Become a junkie and OD, lifr saving kits are available free, develope an allergy that might someday require the use of a epipen victim of greed, price gauging and big pharma, sounds par for the course...

    That's a gov't issue. Someone is paying for the narcan
    I know someone's paying for it, just saying that's typical of today...

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited October 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Become a junkie and OD, lifr saving kits are available free, develope an allergy that might someday require the use of a epipen victim of greed, price gauging and big pharma, sounds par for the course...

    That's a gov't issue. Someone is paying for the narcan
    I know someone's paying for it, just saying that's typical of today.
    Maybe, but I think you're forgetting a pretty important distinction that affects how things get funded: the fentanyl thing is an acute public health crisis. It's being handled more like an epidemic, really. The issue of Epipens, while also important, really isn't even in the same ballpark.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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