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mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

I dont recall anyone anywhere saying radical Catholic terrorists. simply IRA TERRORISTS.

Now I will grant , some tabloid in Britain may have used this exact phrasing and I expect some somewhere may have. but it certainly wasnt spoken of HERE publicly.

R.I.T is used rather loosely.

well why do you think that is ? maybe because they keep telling the world that ISLAM will control the world or they scream ala acobar or what ever they say when they pull the cord/push the button on their suicide vest or burn, rape, behead in the name of ala then post that shit on friggin youtube.....geemineee flapjacks man how much slack can you give a radical Islamic terrorist group ? another example of backwards ass political correctness.

Godfather.

think about that. THEY are a statistically insignificant % of the worlds billion plus muslim population. So how is it then THEY speak for all?

its funny, you'll rail against being put into a particular box because of the extreme views of others that you might have agreement with on xyz issue but are willing to paint a billion plus that way.

it would help if you came to understand the muslim in name only arent practing a religion. you can learn this by read the book yourself. if you've paid attention you've seen the reports that isil is specifically recruiting folks with little to no knowledge of islam to begin with. they target the disaffected, loner outsiders. no different than a street gang. but much more brutal and violent.

think about that. THEY are a statistically insignificant % of the worlds billion plus muslim population......say 10% ? little less or a little more ?
so what's 5% of a BILLION ? ...what's 1% of a billion ?

Godfather.

1% or less actually.

Or 6/100,000ths of a %.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20160907-we-recommend-hillary-clinton-for-president.ece

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

benjs said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

I dont recall anyone anywhere saying radical Catholic terrorists. simply IRA TERRORISTS.

Now I will grant , some tabloid in Britain may have used this exact phrasing and I expect some somewhere may have. but it certainly wasnt spoken of HERE publicly.

R.I.T is used rather loosely.

well why do you think that is ? maybe because they keep telling the world that ISLAM will control the world or they scream ala acobar or what ever they say when they pull the cord/push the button on their suicide vest or burn, rape, behead in the name of ala then post that shit on friggin youtube.....geemineee flapjacks man how much slack can you give a radical Islamic terrorist group ? another example of backwards ass political correctness.

Godfather.

smfh. BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF ISLAM. it's a incredibly bastardized version of it. islam is a peaceful religion.

is there on line version of the koran ? I've heard stories but never seen one myself.

Godfather.

Here's a quick quiz where you can guess whether the quotes come from the Bible or the Quran.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Hejman/which_holy_book

And, in the most ridiculously straightforward method to find the Quran, a search on google.com led me to - go figure - quran.com. Free, translated in numerous languages.

http://www.quran.com

The bible is the bloodiest book ever written. It drives me insane when people will go on and on about what the Quran says but fail to mention the bible is equally horrible in some passages.

this is just it.

That is just it.
But I also completely disagree with this "Islam is a truly peaceful religion" bullshit too. I'm not talking about ISIS or other Islamic fanatics. Plain old Islams isn't a religion of peace any more than Christianity is. They are BOTH religions based on a whole lot of bullshit with violence and sexism built right into their holy texts. So let's stop pretending otherwise. That said, most normal religious people don't follow their centuries old religious texts literally. Unfortunately religious FANATICS do, and then some (i.e., they follow what is in those books, along with what isn't in those books, and usually some gross combination of the two). And it is the religious fanatics, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, or whatever else, who are the problem obviously. Not the vast majority. Not the "normals"..... I know most of you know this already. I'm really just talking to GF, lol, the man who apparently thinks ISIS is comprised of 10% of all Muslims in the world, lol.
(but that does remind me of that time I got flamed for saying that 20% of Muslims hold extremist beliefs on some level. I still believe that to be true (from reading info and stats that makes this fully believable). That said, I doubt the number is much different for Christians. It's just that most extremist Christians have gotten over the terrorist hump)

Gern Blansten said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I just picture a meeting of high level military authorities where they say "dammit....he didn't say Radical Islamic Terrorism...I guess we'll just pack up our shit and go home"

Radlibs (of course not you personally) often think/read things like this and live in la la land w/ out military in their lives.

Sorry....it's a dumb thing to say. As I said they trot that out as red meat for the low information voter. Obama has made it very clear that he doesn't say "Radical Islamic Terrorists" because he doesn't want those same low information voters to equate all of Islam with the radicals.

Should we say "Uneducated White People" every time we talk about Trump supporters?

"Low information voter" is the politically correct way of saying "uneducated white men".

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/u-s-official-donald-trump-s-body-language-claim-doesn-n644856

I really can't believe he isn't getting ripped to shreds over this. If Hillary said this shit the internets would explode.

That was one of like 10 instances where Matt Laurer should have simply followed up with "....wait, what? What are you talking about? What does that even mean??"

Godfather. said:

I love when.......I guess we all have our limits and desires but trying to convince me about a peaceful religion that seems to make the news daily in a negative way just won't work for me.

Godfather.

.00016% GF. Your number was 5-10%. You should re-calibrate your thinking closer to the truth and away from the talking points of the right.

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

benjs said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

I dont recall anyone anywhere saying radical Catholic terrorists. simply IRA TERRORISTS.

Now I will grant , some tabloid in Britain may have used this exact phrasing and I expect some somewhere may have. but it certainly wasnt spoken of HERE publicly.

R.I.T is used rather loosely.

well why do you think that is ? maybe because they keep telling the world that ISLAM will control the world or they scream ala acobar or what ever they say when they pull the cord/push the button on their suicide vest or burn, rape, behead in the name of ala then post that shit on friggin youtube.....geemineee flapjacks man how much slack can you give a radical Islamic terrorist group ? another example of backwards ass political correctness.

Godfather.

smfh. BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF ISLAM. it's a incredibly bastardized version of it. islam is a peaceful religion.

is there on line version of the koran ? I've heard stories but never seen one myself.

Godfather.

Here's a quick quiz where you can guess whether the quotes come from the Bible or the Quran.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Hejman/which_holy_book

And, in the most ridiculously straightforward method to find the Quran, a search on google.com led me to - go figure - quran.com. Free, translated in numerous languages.

http://www.quran.com

The bible is the bloodiest book ever written. It drives me insane when people will go on and on about what the Quran says but fail to mention the bible is equally horrible in some passages.

this is just it.

That is just it.
But I also completely disagree with this "Islam is a truly peaceful religion" bullshit too. I'm not talking about ISIS or other Islamic fanatics. Plain old Islams isn't a religion of peace any more than Christianity is. They are BOTH religions based on a whole lot of bullshit with violence and sexism built right into their holy texts. So let's stop pretending otherwise. That said, most normal religious people don't follow their centuries old religious texts literally. Unfortunately religious FANATICS do, and then some (i.e., they follow what is in those books, along with what isn't in those books, and usually some gross combination of the two). And it is the religious fanatics, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, or whatever else, who are the problem obviously. Not the vast majority. Not the "normals"..... I know most of you know this already. I'm really just talking to GF, lol, the man who apparently thinks ISIS is comprised of 10% of all Muslims in the world, lol.
(but that does remind me of that time I got flamed for saying that 20% of Muslims hold extremist beliefs on some level. I still believe that to be true (from reading info and stats that makes this fully believable). That said, I doubt the number is much different for Christians. It's just that most extremist Christians have gotten over the terrorist hump)

when I said Islam is a religion of peace, I meant in practice, not in text. Of course it is a religion with a history of oppression and violence and sexism and whatnot. All historical religions are. But today's Islam is not that at all.

Godfather. said:

btw I've seen (so called peaceful) islamist on T.V claiming ONLY 10% of islamist are radical.....bullshit the number is most likely higher than that.

Godfather.

If it is 10% of Islamist that are radicalized, that's still a shit load of people. But I would have no idea how anyone can place a definitive number how many people are radicalized?

so if 10% of christians are homophobes who abuse (mentally, physically, emotionally) those in the LGTBQ community, should we call them Radical Christian Fundamentalists, or just bigoted assholes?

I'm fine with the latter.