Check your math--overcharged at Wrigley merch stand
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add shit up in your head - not that difficult0
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My sentiments exactlybuck502000 said:add shit up in your head - not that difficult
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Kevin Schuss is the old guy with long hair who films stuff with his camera at the front, he doesn't do merch.0
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I meant nothing negative about the post or OP, I just had fraud protection step in and decline my purchase which caused a longer wait time for my line. I should've used cash, my stupid fault and very embarrassing. It's amazing when the kindness of strangers occurs and leaves a dumb person speechless. I was distraught and ready to walk out when people behind me demanded to talk to managers on my behalf. They let my stuff sit for ten minutes while I hauled ass to the ATM and came back through a side tent entrance. I felt so bad for everyone who I had waited with all morning in the rain. When I went to thank the person in charge I was directed to mrtsurt himself, Chris Siglin. Earlier in the week we exchanged words on instagram, kind of accidentally. I was relieved to be able to explain myself and thank him all at once. Oops, guess I shared my story anyway. My point was that I meant nothing against those that had issues. My problem was trusting plastic when I knew better and should've been ready with cash. Different topic but now that I've mentioned it, if anyone in here was there speaking up on my behalf, I cannot thank you enough. Please DM me if you were one of them. Take care.EdsonNascimento said:I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love.
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Why beat yourself up and say you should've been ready with cash? Buyers should be able to use credit cards if they want to. How about just being charged the right damn amount for what you buy? That's not asking too much.pjman75 said:
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I was charged twice @ merch tent inside Wrigley (left hand side of stage) on Monday before the show, apparently one transaction was "declined", but after I checked my bank statements it was not, waiting on the claim to be resolved... the guys @ the tent were all over the place and taking care a lot of anxious customers, so I am not blaming on them...Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
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Yes, Amex doesn't fuck around when protecting their customers. I handle our Amex disputes at work all the time and they basically require us (the merchant) to provide proof of goods sold/delivered in order to win back the case. In our case, it's pretty easy because I provide them a copy of the purchase order and proof of delivery. But since the PJ merch booth is basically one's word against the other's, the cardholder has everything in their corner.mikeliska said:Yup, these are all exactly what disputes with your credit card company are for. They will side with you (especially American Express) and let them work out the details.
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This would help solve the problem as casual fans aren't dumping hundreds of dollars on merch. GnR and Adele are just 2 of the big bands using this right now http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/03/16/sidestep-is-making-it-easier-for-musicians-to-sell-more-merchandise/#776c4bd82082Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/160
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This problem is stupid. Seriously, with all the money they are raking in with this merch, you'd think they'd spring for a proper cash register with a scanner so that ALL these mistakes weren't being made.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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that's less money for MrTsurtPJ_Soul said:This problem is stupid. Seriously, with all the money they are raking in with this merch, you'd think they'd spring for a proper cash register with a scanner so that ALL these mistakes weren't being made.
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A POS system is a lot of money, but in the long run it pays for itself. Fewer mistakes lead to fewer chargebacks. Faster & more accurate processing means more sales in the same time slot. Etc.lolobugg said:Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Exactly. Pretty sure Pearl Jam can afford it!HesCalledDyer said:With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
The band's merchandising team has nothing to do with the actual transaction. Everything is run on the venue's terminals and processed by the venue's merchant account. If you have to dispute a charge, you're disputing it with the venue, not the band nor the merchandising team. In most cases, and as a goodwill gesture, your credit card provider should be able to take care of you if the overcharge is ~$50. Anything more and escalation is required. It then becomes a matter of how you present your case.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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So Wrigley uses calculators for their transactions?? Surely Wrigley has something better than manual calculating to run sales....100 Pacer said:The band's merchandising team has nothing to do with the actual transaction. Everything is run on the venue's terminals and processed by the venue's merchant account. If you have to dispute a charge, you're disputing it with the venue, not the band nor the merchandising team. In most cases, and as a goodwill gesture, your credit card provider should be able to take care of you if the overcharge is ~$50. Anything more and escalation is required. It then becomes a matter of how you present your case.
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Yeah, no one thought of that smart ass. Next time you go to the grocery store, buy 25 things and stand there with 200 people staring at you while you try to add everything up in your head. Even you would get it wrong probably 1 out of 10 times. Not crazy wrong but still wrong.buck502000 said:add shit up in your head - not that difficult
It is not like there is a big table where you can spread everything out and take your time.
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This is a really smart thing to do. If you had an itemized list with you of exactly what you wanted, with sizes, quantities and even the total listed, I think it would greatly help both sides of the transaction. Any discrepancies could be worked out right on the sheet/list.rjwhite19 said:I was overcharged by $110 at Fenway. I pointed out that it can't be correct and then began helping to count the items. My vendor was VERY rude during the process which the couples beside us noticed and commented on also. (However they are long lines and long days) But I was fairly organized and had a list with me to make it quicker.
My buddy was overcharged $40 at Ohana on Saturday. He had already walked away when he realized it so when he wanted to turn around to go back to merch in order work it out, I gave him fair warning that he might be SOL since he had walked away from the table (having knowledge of the experiences in this thread). Luckily they were able to give him back the money in cash after he was very civil in explaining it to them.
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If some one is buying 25 things at a concert merchandise stand, then perhaps said person's ability to mentally calculate whole numbers is not what needs to be critiquedbootlegger10 said:
It is not like there is a big table where you can spread everything out and take your time...... I'm not looking for an argument, 'just thought the conversation was humourous/sarcastic...... have a good day.
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You should be able to "ballpark" your costs in your mind before you get to the stand0
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2 Let's go stickers, 2 pennant stickers, 2 baseball stickers, 2 buttons, 2 enamel pin, 2 baseball patches, 2 of patch #2, 2 of patch #3, 1 keychain, 2 shirts, 1 jersey, 1 of each flag, 6 posters, 1 koozie, 3 wristbands, 2 hats, 1 pair of sox, 5 packs of cards = 40 itemsBF89905 said:..... I'm not looking for an argument, 'just thought the conversation was humourous/sarcastic...... have a good day.
It isn't tough to get to a lot of items with the number of small items they were selling. The numbers above weren't even the max per item. I'm sure people walked out of there with 60 items on a regular basis.
I'm not trying to argue either, but just pointing out what a condescending comment it is. If you aren't into collecting stuff so be it, but if you are and purchased 40+ items at a merch booth you or the vendor may not add it up correctly on the spot.
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