Pearl Jam 2016 tour merch

kasedoug · August 2016

my2hands said:
I'm sure he is just stressed... there is no way he has dealt with rock band merch mania quite like this before...

phan84 said:

AmishGuy91 said:
So who exactly is MrTSurt? What is his role as it relates to PJ?
I have the same question. I'm new here.

TSURT has been handling PJ's merch for years, so I'm sure he's seen the mania before (He also handles Blink 182 and others). I have a yellow TSURT bag that dates back to either the '09 Backspacer tour or PJ20. The ballpark shows are their own different animal though, with multiple days of sales and expanded offerings. Part of it also probably comes from having to utilize venue people in each different stop, rather than a crew of his own that would already knows what's coming.

dmbkc · August 2016

I think the majority of people in here are just asking if or when the Wrigley merch announcement (similar to Fenway) will happen. The majority of us are not complaining but traveling and plotting our journey. I am just happy they have merch booths outside the venue and if they have the same allotment similar to Fenway they will easily make $400 of me, so there's that......

bootlegger10 · August 2016

MickeyMouse said:
Some of ya'll need to seriously chill and stop acting like you have the magical solutions that that band and their people haven't explored. Everyone thinks they can do it better from the comfort of their own home with no experience or knowledge of the variables of the situations. I feel for the guy - he doesn't need to post teases on IG, he doesn't need to interact with fans and answer your questions. He could just wait until PJ posts their official Wrigley merch info and let them handle it. But he doesn't. He gives you teases and information. And he's probably just overwhelmed with a very busy month and probably doesn't feel like listening to internet comments anymore about how awful everyone is at doing their job, and how he should do this, or that, or hey have you seen our 500 page petition for poster pre-orders and don't forget flippers suck and where's my poster why can't I have my poster.

I get it. If I were him I'd shut all my accounts down and stop being nice if it's really that bad.

They don't owe you a Wrigley timetable. They don't owe you anything. You bought a ticket to concert and that's it. Anything else is just a level of entitlement that I don't understand. "well we'd stop if they gave us some information". Maybe they aren't READY to give you information. Maybe they don't work on your schedule. Maybe things are still being finalized. And maybe it's not up to you when you get to find out.

I agree that they do this stuff for a living and so they probably thought about every idea we could come up with.

I agree that we should all be respectful. But what I disagree on is that someone the fans who will be paying millions (yes millions) for merchandise aren't allowed to ask in advance how they and when they will be able to spend those millions. I cannot figure out why it is such a sin to expect something in return for the millions of dollars the fans pay. The money isn't going to charity. I agree we should ask respectfully, but it is not a sense of entitlement that makes people ask but a sense of being a PAYING customer that makes us ask.

The daily tweets of merch also helps hype the merch sales, so it is a nice thing that they do that, but it is called advertising.

theebradness · August 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

MickeyMouse said:
Some of ya'll need to seriously chill and stop acting like you have the magical solutions that that band and their people haven't explored. Everyone thinks they can do it better from the comfort of their own home with no experience or knowledge of the variables of the situations. I feel for the guy - he doesn't need to post teases on IG, he doesn't need to interact with fans and answer your questions. He could just wait until PJ posts their official Wrigley merch info and let them handle it. But he doesn't. He gives you teases and information. And he's probably just overwhelmed with a very busy month and probably doesn't feel like listening to internet comments anymore about how awful everyone is at doing their job, and how he should do this, or that, or hey have you seen our 500 page petition for poster pre-orders and don't forget flippers suck and where's my poster why can't I have my poster.

I get it. If I were him I'd shut all my accounts down and stop being nice if it's really that bad.

They don't owe you a Wrigley timetable. They don't owe you anything. You bought a ticket to concert and that's it. Anything else is just a level of entitlement that I don't understand. "well we'd stop if they gave us some information". Maybe they aren't READY to give you information. Maybe they don't work on your schedule. Maybe things are still being finalized. And maybe it's not up to you when you get to find out.
Someone gets it!

I like how everyone is all "they should do this" or "they could put a shop here/there" and "he must not know the PJ fan base" etc. I am quite sure that Tsurt LLC has explored every option available. Wrigley is under construction. The Cubs are still in town. And Chicago certainly isn't the easiest city to obtain business permits and go thru all the legalities and red tape to set up shop.

You guys are making far too much sense for this board. Don't you know there needs to be a red carpet laid for everyone who has a member number under 200K?

PJNB · August 2016

theebradness said:

HesCalledDyer said:

MickeyMouse said:
Some of ya'll need to seriously chill and stop acting like you have the magical solutions that that band and their people haven't explored. Everyone thinks they can do it better from the comfort of their own home with no experience or knowledge of the variables of the situations. I feel for the guy - he doesn't need to post teases on IG, he doesn't need to interact with fans and answer your questions. He could just wait until PJ posts their official Wrigley merch info and let them handle it. But he doesn't. He gives you teases and information. And he's probably just overwhelmed with a very busy month and probably doesn't feel like listening to internet comments anymore about how awful everyone is at doing their job, and how he should do this, or that, or hey have you seen our 500 page petition for poster pre-orders and don't forget flippers suck and where's my poster why can't I have my poster.

I get it. If I were him I'd shut all my accounts down and stop being nice if it's really that bad.

They don't owe you a Wrigley timetable. They don't owe you anything. You bought a ticket to concert and that's it. Anything else is just a level of entitlement that I don't understand. "well we'd stop if they gave us some information". Maybe they aren't READY to give you information. Maybe they don't work on your schedule. Maybe things are still being finalized. And maybe it's not up to you when you get to find out.
Someone gets it!

I like how everyone is all "they should do this" or "they could put a shop here/there" and "he must not know the PJ fan base" etc. I am quite sure that Tsurt LLC has explored every option available. Wrigley is under construction. The Cubs are still in town. And Chicago certainly isn't the easiest city to obtain business permits and go thru all the legalities and red tape to set up shop.
You guys are making far too much sense for this board. Don't you know there needs to be a red carpet laid for everyone who has a member number under 200K?

What do us peasants in the 500K get?

demetrios · August 2016

https://twitter.com/JeffAmentsArmy/status/765298183891148800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skdp94ZHMB4

pjalive21 · August 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

Dr. Delight said:
That guy needs a thicker skin and its readily apparent that he doesnt know what kind of fan base he's dealing with in PJ fans. He should give a call to Santos for some advice.
I'm pretty sure he knows full well the PJ fan base. He's been dealing with the band for years. Pearl Jam isn't his only customer.

I shouldn't be shocked but reading people's responses to what he wrote is asinine, makes me wonder what kind of crap he was taking online prior to his response post. He has a point he doesn't have to do this and for him to say he will reconsider not doing it in the future is sad that some "fans" are acting like entitled children

the whole merch ordeal has gotten out of hand

Bob Mayo on the keyboards Bob · August 2016

theebradness said:

HesCalledDyer said:

MickeyMouse said:

You guys are making far too much sense for this board. Don't you know there needs to be a red carpet laid for everyone who has a member number under 200K?
Sweet, thanks I'll take 27 t-shirts, 4 of each poster, and all the baseball cards you've got. (Actually saw a guy do something similar in Philly 2009; he bought the whole stack of large blue t-shirts. It was a ridiculous.)

But seriously, I do think the manufactured rarity of all this junk is what drives some of this. People are already worried they won't get their merch. Why not just make more and cut out the "limited" aspect of all this. I don't care if my poster is worth $400 a year from now, or if it's got a moon rock variant, I just want to you, you know, be able to buy a souvenir from each show I attend. So I can then store it in a tube in my basement forever.

jcmitchell28 · August 2016

I'm pretty well screwed with Merch at Wrigley since I'm getting in Sunday night late and only going to Monday night. I'll get the scraps, but that's fine. Can't wait for the show.

JimmyV · August 2016

The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.

tschav · August 2016

Pissing off the guy revealing all merch previews/info was definitely the way to get the info.

PJ-Cubs · August 2016

JimmyV said:
The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.

I completely agree with you but I have never seen an organization make it so difficult to take our $$. Long lines, limited quantities - I have a feeling that they could sell so much more merch if more was produced and if there was a more effective distribution system.

The Camaros Hood · August 2016

PJ-Cubs said:

JimmyV said:
The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.
I completely agree with you but I have never seen an organization make it so difficult to take our $$. Long lines, limited quantities - I have a feeling that they could sell so much more merch if more was produced and if there was a more effective distribution system.

Nike/Jordan brand has been doing it since the late 90's.

rssesq · August 2016

mid 80's son,
Jordan 2, made in Italy, released June 1986

The Camaros Hood said:

PJ-Cubs said:

JimmyV said:
The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.
I completely agree with you but I have never seen an organization make it so difficult to take our $$. Long lines, limited quantities - I have a feeling that they could sell so much more merch if more was produced and if there was a more effective distribution system.
Nike/Jordan brand has been doing it since the late 90's.

JimmyV · August 2016

PJ-Cubs said:

JimmyV said:
The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.
I completely agree with you but I have never seen an organization make it so difficult to take our $$. Long lines, limited quantities - I have a feeling that they could sell so much more merch if more was produced and if there was a more effective distribution system.

I hear you. When I saw the Fenway 2 setlist shirt mentioned with "details to follow", I assumed that would mean online sale. Never figured it would mean another sale at Fenway the day after the show.

MonkeyDan72 · August 2016

What’s one item Blink and Non-Blink you are proud of to have helped create, and one you’re not so proud of?

The other two things are Pearl Jam based. I emailed Frank Kozik who I have looked up to for the last 25 years. I asked him if he would like to do a Pearl Jam poster. I figured I would never hear back. He emailed back in roughly 5 minutes saying yes he thought that would be fun. I was and so far am the only person that he has done gig posters for in 11 years. That is amazing to me. He is the most amazingly nice guy.

The second Pearl Jam thing is the Vs. series of posters that we have been doing this year. To me PJ set the standard for the rock poster business. They are the best there is and the best there ever will be. Every band looks up to them for this. Since so many bands are doing these now a days I wanted to show everyone how to do it. I spoke with Jeff about doing a Vs. series where we would get two of the most amazing artists available to create a poster together. Jeff liked the idea and then I had to try and track everyone down. There was a list that got put together. We only had a couple folks that could not do it and that made total sense. I was so happy that the whole thing came together. For a little bit I was getting nervous. This was not an easy task and took about 7 months to pull off. I am proud that I could help the band do this and they loved everything.

Singlin interview from before.

MonkeyDan72 · August 2016

And he also said...

The second Pearl Jam thing is the Vs. series of posters that we have been doing this year. To me PJ set the standard for the rock poster business. They are the best there is and the best there ever will be. Every band looks up to them for this. Since so many bands are doing these now a days I wanted to show everyone how to do it. I spoke with Jeff about doing a Vs. series where we would get two of the most amazing artists available to create a poster together. Jeff liked the idea and then I had to try and track everyone down. There was a list that got put together. We only had a couple folks that could not do it and that made total sense. I was so happy that the whole thing came together. For a little bit I was getting nervous. This was not an easy task and took about 7 months to pull off. I am proud that I could help the band do this and they loved everything.

my2hands · August 2016

rssesq said:
mid 80's son,
Jordan 2, made in Italy, released June 1986
The Camaros Hood said:

PJ-Cubs said:

JimmyV said:
The band and its management have successfully turned merchandise sales into a lucrative and booming enterprise. They did this intentionally and with a plan. Their marketing is brilliant. They roll out one shiny thing after another and we all race to open our wallets. I have no problem with this. I am a willing consumer in the market. But at the end of the day we are customers and customers do have a right to know when sales will begin, where sales will be held, and when sales will end. Eager customers are a good problem for any company to have.
I completely agree with you but I have never seen an organization make it so difficult to take our $$. Long lines, limited quantities - I have a feeling that they could sell so much more merch if more was produced and if there was a more effective distribution system.
Nike/Jordan brand has been doing it since the late 90's.

grocery stores were doing it way before nike

they found that if you put an arbitrary limit on green beans, people bought more of them

pjl44 · August 2016

shetellsherself said:
Are we really that much crazier than other bands fans?

I've been going to 60-70 shows a year for the last 15 years or so and I've yet to encounter anything like Pearl Jam fans when it comes to merch. I used to post here a bunch, but the angst over tickets, posters, records, etc. just got to be too much. It's a vicious cycle where people tear their hair out about scalpers/flippers without the self-awareness that they themselves are creating the demand that makes it viable.

I popped back in for the Fenway shows and to keep tabs on what was going on. Thought all involved did a fantastic job running the stands. Despite the availability of dozens of items and plenty of stretches where there was little-to-no wait, it was a bummer to see the shitting on poster designs and lamenting availability of limited items hadn't gotten any better. It's a tough crowd and I'm not surprised that it wears them down.

Bladamus Maximus · August 2016

I just want a couple posters to put on my wall...

Pearl Jam 2016 tour merch

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