Obviously EV is not Pearl Jam BUT....

Who I Am
Who I Am Posts: 661
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At what point do you say to yourself I heard EV perform 'XYZ' song at a solo show and should cross it from my list because well....??
-Arc
-Hard Sun
-Sometimes

For me.
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  • Washed
    Washed Posts: 736
    For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    edited August 2016
    Washed said:

    For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

    He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

    From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    cant wait for some vedder solo tour action... love seeing him solo
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Hard Sun is not a Pearl Jam song... so... why even count that as a Pearl Jam song if you for some reason are counting Pearl Jam songs...

    Arc should have stayed being a song played 9 times, one for each victim.

    Be happy too see Sometimse, in what way you may see it.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    Heard Arc at both PJ and EV shows. I would say I've crossed off PJ songs I've heard at EV shows. Several, actually:

    Sleeping By Myself (I guess this one doesn't count, since there are two versions)
    Dead Man
    Just Breathe
    Man of the Hour
    I'm Open
    Off He Goes
    Unthought Known
    Long Road
    Parting Ways
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • red mos
    red mos Posts: 4,953
    edited August 2016
    So if we are talking pj songs at Ev shows and then counting as pj songs to cross off i get to add:

    Off he goes
    Santa Cruz
    Love Boat captain
    Dead man
    Thumbing my way
    The End
    Sleeping by myself
    Post edited by red mos on
    PJ: 10/14/00 06/09/03 10/4/09 11/15/13 11/16/13 10/08/14
    EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
  • jarkkonieminen
    jarkkonieminen Melbourne, Australia Posts: 127
    I've heard Gone, Driftin', I'm Open and Bugs at EV solo shows and don't consider them to be ticked off my list sadly
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  • red mos
    red mos Posts: 4,953
    edited August 2016
    double post oops.
    Post edited by red mos on
    PJ: 10/14/00 06/09/03 10/4/09 11/15/13 11/16/13 10/08/14
    EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
  • Washed
    Washed Posts: 736
    bootlegger10 said:

    Washed said:

    For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

    He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

    From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.
    WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.
    this city is so filthy, like my mind in ways
  • red mos
    red mos Posts: 4,953
    edited August 2016
    Washed said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Washed said:

    For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

    He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

    From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.
    WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.
    I saw arc done at a PJ show in Dallas 2003. It was the 2nd time played. It was cool to see, but I don't remember the crowd being quiet like Ed had asked. He did have the echo machine, and headphones and a spotlight on him. Arc actually opened the first encore, followed by can't keep. Sadly, I've never been able to find an audience recording, as it was omitted from the original boots.
    Post edited by red mos on
    PJ: 10/14/00 06/09/03 10/4/09 11/15/13 11/16/13 10/08/14
    EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818

    IDK,

    The way I see it, until I hear PJ play Can't Keep, I don't feel like I've heard the proper version, even though I heard Ed do it solo.

    I saw him play Sometimes solo in 2011, but that couldn't compare to hearing the band play it in Hartford in '13.

    To each his own, but for me........ I don't consider myself to have seen the PJ song until I've seen PJ perform it.

    But wtf do I know? It's all subjective.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    red mos said:

    Washed said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Washed said:

    For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

    He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

    From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.
    WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.
    I saw arc done at a PJ show in Dallas 2003. It was the 2nd time played. It was cool to see, but I don't remember the crowd being quiet like Ed had asked. He did have the echo machine, and headphones and a spotlight on him. Arc actually opened the first encore, followed by can't keep. Sadly, I've never been able to find an audience recording, as it was omitted from the original boots.
    from what I can recall, in Fargo, it started the show. pretty sure he was behind the curtain still. Or I at least couldn't see him.
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • MG79478
    MG79478 Posts: 1,727
    Who I Am said:

    At what point do you say to yourself I heard EV perform 'XYZ' song at a solo show and should cross it from my list because well....??
    -Arc
    -Hard Sun
    -Sometimes

    For me.

    Never.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Shit, I don't even HAVE a list!

    I count myself fortunate to have witnessed the first performance of Arc, though. Absolute and unexpectedly emotional beauty.
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    I consider them played IMO. Having seen them performed live by the original vocalist and writer is good enough for me.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Separate lists, different experiences. I've previously heard Eddie perform Sleeping By Myself a few times but it didn't come off my Pearl Jam list until this past weekend at Fenway. Same thing with Man Of The Hour a few years ago.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,022
    I always count them. EV is my favorite and all the songs I count are great acoustic tracks which work without the rest of the band. For example, Thumbing My Way, Around the Bend and Arc.

    I know a lot of other people don't count them. Whatever people want to do is cool.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I saw Arc three times in 03 and it was great. My favorite would probably be Council Bluffs. It opened the show before ripping into Save You.
    The band chose to leave these versions off of the bootlegs. But, as stated above, these versions were very similar to the solo show versions.
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    Arc was one of the coolest things I have ever seen at a show. Believe he was using a looping machine. The textures cranked up at the show were awesome. Saw it at the 3rd Mansfield show in 03 I believe.
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  • BCBA
    BCBA Utah with the mailman Posts: 220
    Nope. Doesnt count

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