Obviously EV is not Pearl Jam BUT....

Who I Am

At what point do you say to yourself I heard EV perform 'XYZ' song at a solo show and should cross it from my list because well....??
-Arc
-Hard Sun
-Sometimes

For me.

Washed

For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

bootlegger10

Washed said:

For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.

my2hands

cant wait for some vedder solo tour action... love seeing him solo

Spiritual_Chaos

Hard Sun is not a Pearl Jam song... so... why even count that as a Pearl Jam song if you for some reason are counting Pearl Jam songs...

Arc should have stayed being a song played 9 times, one for each victim.

Be happy too see Sometimse, in what way you may see it.

HughFreakingDillon

Heard Arc at both PJ and EV shows. I would say I've crossed off PJ songs I've heard at EV shows. Several, actually:

Sleeping By Myself (I guess this one doesn't count, since there are two versions)
Dead Man
Just Breathe
Man of the Hour
I'm Open
Off He Goes
Unthought Known
Long Road
Parting Ways

red mos

So if we are talking pj songs at Ev shows and then counting as pj songs to cross off i get to add:

Off he goes
Santa Cruz
Love Boat captain
Dead man
Thumbing my way
The End
Sleeping by myself

jarkkonieminen

I've heard Gone, Driftin', I'm Open and Bugs at EV solo shows and don't consider them to be ticked off my list sadly

red mos

double post oops.

Washed

bootlegger10 said:

Washed said:

For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.

WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.

red mos

Washed said:

bootlegger10 said:

Washed said:

For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.

WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.

I saw arc done at a PJ show in Dallas 2003. It was the 2nd time played. It was cool to see, but I don't remember the crowd being quiet like Ed had asked. He did have the echo machine, and headphones and a spotlight on him. Arc actually opened the first encore, followed by can't keep. Sadly, I've never been able to find an audience recording, as it was omitted from the original boots.

Merkin Baller

IDK,

The way I see it, until I hear PJ play Can't Keep, I don't feel like I've heard the proper version, even though I heard Ed do it solo.

I saw him play Sometimes solo in 2011, but that couldn't compare to hearing the band play it in Hartford in '13.

To each his own, but for me........ I don't consider myself to have seen the PJ song until I've seen PJ perform it.

But wtf do I know? It's all subjective.

HughFreakingDillon

red mos said:

Washed said:

bootlegger10 said:

Washed said:

For the most part I think it counts...particularly Arc. No way PJ will ever play that because you'd need silence. EV got his crowds to stay quiet for a few minutes to pull this off but a PJ crowd would never shut up long enough for Arc!

He played it 9 times at PJ shows in 2003 but I agree that it likely won't be done at a Pearl Jam show again. Never say never though.

From my viewpoint, unless Sometimes is played during a PJ show I wouldn't count it on my list of Pearl Jam songs seen.

WHOA! Had no idea Arc had been played at PJ shows. Should have looked before I opened my mouth. Wonder how it was (and if he did it with the echo machine)? Thanks for the info.

I saw arc done at a PJ show in Dallas 2003. It was the 2nd time played. It was cool to see, but I don't remember the crowd being quiet like Ed had asked. He did have the echo machine, and headphones and a spotlight on him. Arc actually opened the first encore, followed by can't keep. Sadly, I've never been able to find an audience recording, as it was omitted from the original boots.

from what I can recall, in Fargo, it started the show. pretty sure he was behind the curtain still. Or I at least couldn't see him.

MG79478

Who I Am said:

At what point do you say to yourself I heard EV perform 'XYZ' song at a solo show and should cross it from my list because well....??
-Arc
-Hard Sun
-Sometimes

For me.

Never.

hedonist

Shit, I don't even HAVE a list!

I count myself fortunate to have witnessed the first performance of Arc, though. Absolute and unexpectedly emotional beauty.

Ray J. T.

I consider them played IMO. Having seen them performed live by the original vocalist and writer is good enough for me.

JimmyV

Separate lists, different experiences. I've previously heard Eddie perform Sleeping By Myself a few times but it didn't come off my Pearl Jam list until this past weekend at Fenway. Same thing with Man Of The Hour a few years ago.

SVRDhand13

I always count them. EV is my favorite and all the songs I count are great acoustic tracks which work without the rest of the band. For example, Thumbing My Way, Around the Bend and Arc.

I know a lot of other people don't count them. Whatever people want to do is cool.

ledvedderman

I saw Arc three times in 03 and it was great. My favorite would probably be Council Bluffs. It opened the show before ripping into Save You.
The band chose to leave these versions off of the bootlegs. But, as stated above, these versions were very similar to the solo show versions.

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh

Arc was one of the coolest things I have ever seen at a show. Believe he was using a looping machine. The textures cranked up at the show were awesome. Saw it at the 3rd Mansfield show in 03 I believe.

BCBA

Nope. Doesnt count

CopperTom

Cheating on your own stats is really lame.

samjam

JimmyV said:

Separate lists, different experiences. I've previously heard Eddie perform Sleeping By Myself a few times but it didn't come off my Pearl Jam list until this past weekend at Fenway. Same thing with Man Of The Hour a few years ago.

Totally agree. Two different beasts. Any songs I've heard at an EV solo that I haven't seen at a PJ show don't go towards my 'songs heard' count for PJ.

Speaking of EV solo, definitely would love another tour soon. Such a special experience. Realizing now it's been 5 years since my only two Eddie solo shows--too long!

mcgruff10

when ed performs songs solo that he wrote I count it. I know some of you hate to admit it but without ed there's no pearl jam. so if the leader of pearl jam performs it solo, it counts.

slightofjeff

If it's a song that Ed would reasonably play by himself even at a full PJ show, I say you can count it. Hell, even if not. I'm counting Around the Bend from an Ed solo show on my list and there's nothing any of you can do about it.

MUZIK

It's like comparing peaches to Apple's.

How you gonna compare an acoustic solo version of parting ways to it being with the full band?

Or any song for that matter.

I know some of you are trying to get songs checked off your list but it's night and day people.

Nigh and day.

Foriginal Sin

I have like 5 of the 9 versions of this from 2003 on a cd somewhere, got it off one of the fan sites

Foriginal Sin

Who I Am said:

At what point do you say to yourself I heard EV perform 'XYZ' song at a solo show and should cross it from my list because well....??
-Arc
-Hard Sun
-Sometimes

For me.

Hard Sun shouldn't matter, cover song to begin with

HughFreakingDillon

MUZIK said:

It's like comparing peaches to Apple's.

How you gonna compare an acoustic solo version of parting ways to it being with the full band?

Or any song for that matter.

I know some of you are trying to get songs checked off your list but it's night and day people.

Nigh and day.

I'm not a song chaser. I just have a list just for interest's sake. I do it with a couple other of my favourite bands too.

what if ed comes out preset and plays Man of the Hour on his own? that wouldn't count to you?

Merkin Baller

MUZIK said:

It's like comparing peaches to Apple's.

How you gonna compare an acoustic solo version of parting ways to it being with the full band?

Or any song for that matter.

I know some of you are trying to get songs checked off your list but it's night and day people.

Nigh and day.

Night & Day, spot on.

Can't Keep is not the same song to me without the drum intro, McCready's slick guitar wail or the bassline.

It's nice to hear Ed play a stripped down solo version, but until I hear PJ play it as a band, I don't feel like I've heard the original version as it 'should be played'.

ledvedderman

Merkin Baller said:

MUZIK said:

It's like comparing peaches to Apple's.

How you gonna compare an acoustic solo version of parting ways to it being with the full band?

Or any song for that matter.

I know some of you are trying to get songs checked off your list but it's night and day people.

Nigh and day.

Night & Day, spot on.

Can't Keep is not the same song to me without the drum intro, McCready's slick guitar wail or the bassline.

It's nice to hear Ed play a stripped down solo version, but until I hear PJ play it as a band, I don't feel like I've heard the original version as it 'should be played'.

Well, technically, the solo uke version is the original version. Ed played two shows in 2002 out west where he debuted several Ukulele Songs as well as Thumbing My Way. He played I Am Mine as well but I think it's official debut was full band at a Bridge School Show.