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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    dignin said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    From what I know, many black communities are struggling. There are a number of reasons for this. In particular, young males are being raised without a positive male role model: in many cases, dads are incarcerated or absentee.

    What's troubling about the incarcerated dads is the fact that most of those incarcerations stem from drug offences. This is an area where we could definitely do better. With all we know... it makes no sense... absolutely no sense... to not legalize drugs.

    Nation wide legalization offers the opportunity to generate jobs in labs, fields, shipping, processing, retail, regulation et al. Further, the tax revenues earned off drug sales and the tax dollars saved from placing drug users and sellers in jail offer the country an opportunity to redirect those funds into quality social programs that might stand a chance at correcting the current course the US is riding.

    And... dads don't get arrested for their interest in marijuana.

    Checked this out after seeing your other post. 100% agree. This would be a big step in the right direction. Incarceration for petty drug crimes has helped with breaking these communities and perpetuating violence.
    Remember when I asked you the question: do you feel cops are inherently racist or do they become racist?

    Part of my motivation for asking was with this reality in mind. When it becomes routine for cops to arrest black people active in the drug trade, I feel that cops begin to stereotype skin colour, hair styles, and clothing. In short, I feel they develop such racial attitudes.

    I see biased attitudes develop in all aspects of society. For example, whenever we go see a doctor... I get the feeling they are looking at us as if we are there because we are overreacting to something small. Many have grown weary of the health care abusers and, by human nature, have become somewhat insensitive.
    Check this out.

    I'm a black ex-cop, and this is the real truth about race and policing

    http://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8661977/race-police-officer

    That is very disturbing. That actually makes the problem worse than I suspected, and I didn't have great feelings about it.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    dignin said:


    When are people going to start coming around to the fact that there are major problems with policing in America?

    U.S. Department of Justice report: Baltimore police show bias, overuse force

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-department-of-justice-report-baltimore-police-show-bias-overuse-force-1.3022829

    The Justice Department announced today that it found reasonable cause to believe that the Baltimore City Police Department (BPD) engages in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First and Fourth Amendments of the Constitution as well as federal anti-discrimination laws. BPD makes stops, searches and arrests without the required justification; uses enforcement strategies that unlawfully subject African Americans to disproportionate rates of stops, searches and arrests; uses excessive force; and retaliates against individuals for their constitutionally-protected expression. The pattern or practice results from systemic deficiencies that have persisted within BPD for many years and has exacerbated community distrust of the police, particularly in the African-American community. The city and the department have also entered into an agreement in principle to work together, with community input, to create a federal court-enforceable consent decree addressing the deficiencies found during the investigation.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-findings-investigation-baltimore-police-department

    One mid-fifties black man was stopped 30 times in less than 4 years. Never charged with a crime.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
    I think it's a pretty broad generalization to compare 1 department to all US PDs.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Degeneratefk said:

    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
    I think it's a pretty broad generalization to compare 1 department to all US PDs.
    It's not just one, Cleveland is in the midst of the same deal. I think it's pretty naive to think it's just Baltimore when Baltimore is not statistically anomalous to nationwide stats on race and "justice".
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Degeneratefk said:

    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
    I think it's a pretty broad generalization to compare 1 department to all US PDs.
    We're on page 68 in this thread. Plenty of evidence in here if you care to look.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    rgambs said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
    I think it's a pretty broad generalization to compare 1 department to all US PDs.
    It's not just one, Cleveland is in the midst of the same deal. I think it's pretty naive to think it's just Baltimore when Baltimore is not statistically anomalous to nationwide stats on race and "justice".
    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    dignin said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    So the Baltimore PD is representative of all PDs across the country?

    Given all the evidence, I don't see how anyone can say that most large PD's in the US and Canada don't have a problem.

    You don't think there is?
    I think it's a pretty broad generalization to compare 1 department to all US PDs.
    We're on page 68 in this thread. Plenty of evidence in here if you care to look.
    If you're going to charge "most large US police departments" with being racists, you do indeed need more than 1 report from one city.

    And being on page 68 of a police abuse thread is not relevant at all. I've been here since this thread was created and have been actively involved in most discussions.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,164
    I've read a few articles about it but: What the Fuck is Happening in Milwaukee?
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    dudeman said:

    I've read a few articles about it but: What the Fuck is Happening in Milwaukee?

    Initial report are a couple dudes took off running from a traffic stop. One had a gun and either pointed it or shot at the cop chasing him. The cop shot and killed him. Then you had a bunch of low life douche bags get on social media and announced to all of their low life friends to burn the city
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,164
    I saw a photo of a police station barricaded from the inside. Cars, a gas station and a bank were all set on fire the last I heard.

    Here's a good example of just how quickly and easily a city can become destabilized.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Bullshit, that's what's happening, just a bunch of punks dropping turds on society.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Milwaukee reeling after deadly police shooting
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/us/milwaukee-violence-police-shooting/index.html

    Cop fatally shot in Georgia; suspect on the loose
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-officer-tim-smith-fatally-shot-georgia-suspect-on-the-loose/

    Fallen officers: 38 shot dead in the line of duty in 2016
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/us/police-officers-fatal-shooting-line-duty-nationwide/index.html
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Just another typical day in the Ghetto.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I really like Milwaukees sheriff. Dude is a no nonsense guy.
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Degeneratefk said:

    I really like Milwaukees sheriff. Dude is a no nonsense guy.

    He is the best!!! Politicians hate this guy cause he calls it the way it is.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    He just pretty much told the media to dig into the prosecutors to see why these 2 bone heads were even walking the streets.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Hey, the cops killed another dude. Let's go burn down some gas stations, an auto parts store, and a restaraunt.


    It just shows the lack of intelligence some people have. People are so stupid.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    This is an interesting sentiment being tweeted about during this latest Milwuakee stuff.
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