49+ Hours of Merch Sales for 6 hours of Music

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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    It's very amusing to me that so many Americans and Canadians rather queue up 6 or 7 hours for merch but not for the show.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,127
    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.
  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.

    Haha I definitely agree
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,042
    edited July 2016
    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.

    Lol, good point.

    While i wouldn't do either, I'm not bothered that people do either of these things, and it's pretty damn easy to care about two or more things at once, so this caring about merch more than about the music theory doesn't fly with me. I'm only bothered when people start getting greedy/sneaky/cheaty about it.... which seems to be the case more and more. People putting their selfish wants (and/or profit) over fairness and ensuring that the maximum number of people benefit equally is what bugs me.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,524
    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.

    Hahaha. Definitely.
  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,449
    PJ_Soul said:

    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.

    Lol, good point.

    While i wouldn't do either, I'm not bothered that people do either of these things, and it's pretty damn easy to care about two or more things at once, so this caring about merch more than about the music theory doesn't fly with me. I'm only bothered when people start getting greedy/sneaky/cheaty about it.... which seems to be the case more and more. People putting their selfish wants (and/or profit) over fairness and ensuring that the maximum number of people benefit equally is what bugs me.
    well said
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,309
    I still don't understand why at this point we can't pre order things through the 10c store.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,132
    PJ_Soul said:

    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.

    Lol, good point.

    While i wouldn't do either, I'm not bothered that people do either of these things, and it's pretty damn easy to care about two or more things at once, so this caring about merch more than about the music theory doesn't fly with me. I'm only bothered when people start getting greedy/sneaky/cheaty about it.... which seems to be the case more and more. People putting their selfish wants (and/or profit) over fairness and ensuring that the maximum number of people benefit equally is what bugs me.
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited July 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    I still don't understand why at this point we can't pre order things through the 10c store.

    I'm with ya... Many of us are traveling, it would be a nice move on their part...a little thanks!

    Already seeing the new Hats and thinking I'll be really lucky to even get one, but the next day they will surely be on eBay for $125
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Brisk. said:

    It's very amusing to me that so many Americans and Canadians rather queue up 6 or 7 hours for merch but not for the show.


    True,,,, No long merch lines in Amsterdam 14... well the pop up store did, but not at the shows. Same for Trieste Italy.. you just walked up and bought whatever you wanted ...no lines, but long lines for GA.
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  • MickeyMouse
    MickeyMouse Posts: 1,057
    It's the "gotta have it now" mentality that is a part of culture now.

    For instance, take Making a Murderer. One weekend, it completely exploded and everyone and every website was talking about it. You gotta see it...did you see it?...everyone's watching it!...Watch it now now now!

    2 weeks later no one cares.

    Pearl Jam and 10C has essentially done the same thing and convinced you that this is stuff you need and you need it now. It's limited! Isn't this awesome?! You can't line up until 7am!

    Making limited edition merch and selling it over a period of a week in limited quantities each day, selling out early each day, creates a frenzy. It makes people who waited and missed think, "damn, I'll have to get there earlier tomorrow". So even more people get there earlier the next day, and even more people miss out that day, etc. etc.

    Then it gets listed and impulse bought on eBay, making people think that those prices are its true worth, and not just the price that a small amount of people are willing to pay to avoid the headache.

    There's no pre-sale because this situation helps the band's image. "Fans wait hours in line for Pearl Jam shirts". They sell more by making you think you want it because there's a line for it. They don't care about the secondary market because it helps their product. It sucks to hear, but its true.

    And while I know all this and accept it, I'll still wait in line and be a part of the problem. Because until people stop willingly lining up and things stop selling out, there is no reason for their formula to change and every reason for it to expand.
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  • MK88178
    MK88178 Chicago Posts: 538
    edited July 2016


    They tried this once before. It sucked for the customer because we didn't know what we were buying. (The poster really sucked). I also think that it took away from people buying more product weather it being tshirts, pins, one sies, etc.impulse buying.
  • MK88178
    MK88178 Chicago Posts: 538
    Poncier said:

    I have to assume this is a way to try and make things better for all involved, with merch sales spread out over nearly a week, hopefully nobody has to spend ridiculous amounts of time in line like they have for some past shows. And hopefully there will be some $1 ice cold water available near by.

    Sadly flippers will be there everyday to get merch. I'm hoping fenway is like wrigley and they have v a merch stand at home plate for everyone on the field.
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,989
    I hope all the Wrigley posters look like shit so I don't feel bad about missing out by standing in line only to not get one.
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,305
    CantKeepmedown said:

    I don't know. Lining up for 3+ hours to get a poster/t-shirt and lining up for 15+ hours so you can be closer to the band are both equally ridiculous to me.


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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    MickeyMouse said:

    It's the "gotta have it now" mentality that is a part of culture now.

    For instance, take Making a Murderer. One weekend, it completely exploded and everyone and every website was talking about it. You gotta see it...did you see it?...everyone's watching it!...Watch it now now now!

    2 weeks later no one cares.

    Pearl Jam and 10C has essentially done the same thing and convinced you that this is stuff you need and you need it now. It's limited! Isn't this awesome?! You can't line up until 7am!

    Making limited edition merch and selling it over a period of a week in limited quantities each day, selling out early each day, creates a frenzy. It makes people who waited and missed think, "damn, I'll have to get there earlier tomorrow". So even more people get there earlier the next day, and even more people miss out that day, etc. etc.

    Then it gets listed and impulse bought on eBay, making people think that those prices are its true worth, and not just the price that a small amount of people are willing to pay to avoid the headache.

    There's no pre-sale because this situation helps the band's image. "Fans wait hours in line for Pearl Jam shirts". They sell more by making you think you want it because there's a line for it. They don't care about the secondary market because it helps their product. It sucks to hear, but its true.

    And while I know all this and accept it, I'll still wait in line and be a part of the problem. Because until people stop willingly lining up and things stop selling out, there is no reason for their formula to change and every reason for it to expand.

    Great points...

    I find it interesting this pj merch craze is really only here in America... and it's getting worse... 2013 I was able to line up at 1:30 and have my poster and sticker back in my car within about 30 minutes... Philly 2013 and Charlottesville we had no problems...

    2014 it changed... Memphis we got out if a huge line because we didn't like the poster and moline was insane but we waited 4 hours for a poster... and of course now it's just total insanity
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    last time i stood up in merch line was at 2006..my first pj shoiw,,i waned a hat.and get a gift for my sis.... thats it..i dont even look where are the merch at the show.and only go there if a friend is in the line and want to meet...music andf have fun with friends,..is what matters to me
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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    dimitrispearljam said:

    last time i stood up in merch line was at 2006..my first pj shoiw,,i waned a hat.and get a gift for my sis.... thats it..i dont even look where are the merch at the show.and only go there if a friend is in the line and want to meet...music andf have fun with friends,..is what matters to me

    I agree
  • CG36691
    CG36691 Posts: 7
    I miss the days of quickly buying a memento at the merch table on the way into the show. I'd love to have a little something from Fenway, but no patience for waiting in long lines, esp. in the heat!

    I'm sure this has been suggested before, but I'd like 10C to charge an extra $5 for a pair of tix & tuck a couple of stickers in the envelope. Anyone who didn't want them could hand them to a stranger... a random act of kindness! (Peace, love & PJ instead of greed, greed & greed.)
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    edited July 2016
    You buy one poster at one show, and then you realize you'll be collecting. I innocently bought a poster in 2003 and now I have 12 framed on my walls, not including the multiple posters picked up this tour. It's like a scrapbook that's not buried in a closet somewhere to me.

    I gotta admit though, after MSG this year I've been saving for Fenway flipped merch because the intensity of the lines makes for less memorable moments. Good thing is there's always a great show to come after buying the stuff.

    I get the desire for show-specific merch, just as much as I get trying to grab setlist and picks. The standard tour fare with multiple dates never got my attention.
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