Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    women weren't equal in our culture until very recently, after thousands of years of oppression as well. there are still many women who actually believe this to be the way it should be as well. they are the minority. every society evolves at their own pace. theirs will too.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    women weren't equal in our culture until very recently, after thousands of years of oppression as well. there are still many women who actually believe this to be the way it should be as well. they are the minority. every society evolves at their own pace. theirs will too.
    I hope you're right.

    Godfather.

  • PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    women weren't equal in our culture until very recently, after thousands of years of oppression as well. there are still many women who actually believe this to be the way it should be as well. they are the minority. every society evolves at their own pace. theirs will too.
    But in the meantime, we have to stomach it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    What's to stop a muslim from saying he's not muslim? How do you deport them?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    What's to stop a muslim from saying he's not muslim? How do you deport them?</blockquote

    I think most will not deny their muslim faith, start there and move forward.

    Godfather.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited June 2016

    What's to stop a muslim from saying he's not muslim? How do you deport them?

    I think most will not deny their muslim faith, start there and move forward.

    Godfather.

    that you even think something like that is even possible in the United States is deeply disturbing
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    women weren't equal in our culture until very recently, after thousands of years of oppression as well. there are still many women who actually believe this to be the way it should be as well. they are the minority. every society evolves at their own pace. theirs will too.
    But in the meantime, we have to stomach it.
    There seems to be a de-evolution on that front in many of these middle eastern cultures. Look at some pictures from the late 70s or early 80s of Iraq. There are women without their heads covered and you probably would not be able to tell the difference compared to a picture from the western societies in the same time period. Just takes a few fucked up individuals with fucked up ideologies to turn it upside down when you have dictators running things.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    GF, you know that women weren't even allowed to vote in America until 1920, right? And that the last state to make raping your wife illegal in the US did so in 1993?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    What's to stop a muslim from saying he's not muslim? How do you deport them?

    I think most will not deny their muslim faith, start there and move forward.

    Godfather.

    that you even think something like that is even possible in the United States is deeply disturbing
    yeah sounds a little disturbing doesn't it...but so do all terrorist attacks and threat of future attacks, it's an extreme answer to extreme circumstances.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    sooooo dramatic........

    Godfather.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited June 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    I didn't say you were interested in a holocaust. I meant that your attitude is exactly what the Pro-Nazi German attitude was before the holocaust.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    I'm not drawing clear equivalency, but the Nazi's spent considerable time deporting Jews before they implemented the Final Solution. It was a psychological transition where they continued to move the needle further and further until the Jews were considered untermensch. Then the German people were complicit. Once the process starts, there's no telling where it ends.

    Learn from history.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    I'm not drawing clear equivalency, but the Nazi's spent considerable time deporting Jews before they implemented the Final Solution. It was a psychological transition where they continued to move the needle further and further until the Jews were considered untermensch. Then the German people were complicit. Once the process starts, there's no telling where it ends.

    Learn from history.
    Exactly. The "rid ourselves of these people in our country" attitude is a very dangerous one to have and grow.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    edited June 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    Why?
    What are you so afraid of?
    After all, you're an admitted gun collector, you should be safe.
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    Why?
    Whate are you so afraid of?
    After all, you're an admitted gun collector, you should be safe.
    ba-fucking-zinga
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    http://cnn.it/28NyGRL

    Shooter's weapon originally designed for special ops....so there
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Honestly, most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies. No community or society functions well when the women are by and large oppressed. When more than half of your adult population have little to no active role in governance, religion, or the economy, everything goes to shit. That's why female oppression is the one thing that all 3rd world nations have in common. The more equal the genders are in a society, the more peaceful and well-run that society tends to be.


    " most of these issues would go away if Muslim women gained equality in Muslim societies."
    if is a big word, thousands of years of muslim culture and tradition not to mention the women who come here trying to defend shira law ? the only thing we can do is rid ourselves of these people in our country.

    Godfather.
    Holy crap man. "Rid ourselves of these people in our country."

    You know what that reminds me of? This:

    image

    no....I am interested in protecting Americans not creating a holocaust, I just want them to leave.

    Godfather.
    Why?
    What are you so afraid of?
    After all, you're an admitted gun collector, you should be safe.
    I'm not afraid nor a "collector" my earlier statement was a what if scenario .
    your feelings and ideas about immigration are different than mine and dose not mean I want to start a holocaust it only means I would like my country a little bit safer and not allowing muslims into our country is a solid plan in my mind until we straighten this terrorist thing out and if that scares some of the people on here then oh well, my opinion is as valid as anybody's
    on the train.

    Godfather.