Should the US institute a ban on assault weapons.

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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    edited June 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited June 2016
    Yes
    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    :not_listening:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yes
    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    :not_listening:
    What an intelligent response!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Yes
    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I have relatives and friends in the states. I'd prefer them not get mowed down. so yeah, I'd say "us canadians" have a vested interest.
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  • Yes
    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    We care.
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited June 2016
    Yes
    Got a gun, 'fact I got two
    That's okay, man 'cuz I love God
    Glorified version of a pellet gun
    Feels so manly when armed

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    Double think, dumb is strength
    Never shot at a living thing
    Glorified version of a pellet gun
    Feels so manly when armed

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    Glorified version of a pellet gun
    Glorified version of a

    Always keep it loaded
    Always keep it loaded
    Always keep it loaded

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yes

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I have relatives and friends in the states. I'd prefer them not get mowed down. so yeah, I'd say "us canadians" have a vested interest.
    Yeah really. I also have friends in the US.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016
    other
    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    Sucks people are smuggling things into your country. Maybe if Canadians relaxed their laws a bit it would cut down on the profit opportunities, thefts, violence that is associated with prohibition of items...just saying. Maybe if you guys built a wall...lol
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yes
    PJPOWER said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    Sucks people are smuggling things into your country. Maybe if Canadians relaxed their laws a bit it would cut down on the profit opportunities, thefts, violence that is associated with prohibition of items...just saying. Maybe if you guys built a wall...lol
    A wall you say? Now there's an idea.... image
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    Yes
    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016
    other

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    By the original posters definition, "assault weapon" is a term some use to describe some guns with certain features. It is neither a definition nor a name. It is a "Term" that I believe has become politicized.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    No

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    automatic weapons are already illegal in the usa.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    automatic weapons are already illegal in the usa.
    Apparently they are legal. They are just highly regulated.

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    No
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    automatic weapons are already illegal in the usa.
    Apparently they are legal. They are just highly regulated.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-F13WmV1NM
    very true and expensive as hell. Not to many people are going to drop 30K on a gun.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    PJPOWER said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    Sucks people are smuggling things into your country. Maybe if Canadians relaxed their laws a bit it would cut down on the profit opportunities, thefts, violence that is associated with prohibition of items...just saying. Maybe if you guys built a wall...lol
    Fked up but typical pro gun position. "Fk you I want guns, deal with it."

    So you supported infesting this country with violence and it's spilling over to Canada and now blaming Canadians and their laws?!?!?!?!? Fkn humans.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    PJPOWER said:

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    By the original posters definition, "assault weapon" is a term some use to describe some guns with certain features. It is neither a definition nor a name. It is a "Term" that I believe has become politicized.
    Arguing semantics? We all know what an assault weapon is.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016
    other
    callen said:

    PJPOWER said:

    "Assault" weapons by their very name and definition should not be available!

    Say what you will about hunting or guns for self-defense, but automatic and semi-automatic weapons is at least a place to start in creating additional laws.

    By the original posters definition, "assault weapon" is a term some use to describe some guns with certain features. It is neither a definition nor a name. It is a "Term" that I believe has become politicized.
    Arguing semantics? We all know what an assault weapon is.
    Evidently not...seems as if most around here do not even know the difference between automatic and semi-automatic rifles. Everyone seems to have a different opinion as to what features turn a gun into an "assault weapon". I really just think that the energy put into trying to ban things could be way more productive elsewhere. All of the billions of dollars spent on this war against guns have resulted in almost no change, much like the war on drugs. I've offered several logical solutions in another thread and they got all but ignored... So go on, keep wasting time and money while fixing nothing.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    callen said:

    PJPOWER said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    When there is a request for people to turn in weapons it is usually accompanied by a cash compensation plan so that people actually do it.

    You think they'll give you market value? Ya right. Who will turn in their $1,500 + rifle for peanuts?
    I didn't say that. I just said that there is usually cash back plan. How much cash depends on the particular program. A lot of the time the combination of wanting to abide by the law and getting some cash in their pockets acts as pretty decent motivation for a lot of people to turn in their illegal weapons even if they aren't getting market value.
    It isn't going to matter, because they won't be illegal anytime soon, sorry to bust your bubble on that fantasy.

    Honestly, why does it matter to you anyway? Your Canadian correct? Us in the US don't try to tell you Canadian's how your country should be ran. So, why are you Canadian's trying to tell us how to run our country? 95% of the people posting wanting to ban said gun in this post are from Canada.
    I don't have a fantasy or a bubble. I was just saying. I'm not debating here. I'm just talking about possibilities.
    But of COURSE I care about this, being in Canada. Most of the guns in Canada come from the US. There is gun smuggling happening across the border. Also, Canada gets a lot of its culture from the US, and this gun culture in the States isn't good for my country either. It is slowly bleeding over. What happens in American has a big impact on Canada generally. That's why we pay so much attention to US politics. Also, I fucking care when a bunch of Americans or people of any other nation are gunned down because they are human beings, and it all seems so preventable. Giving a shit about people being murdered doesn't stop where there is a line drawn on a map. Also, this is also about terrorism and how to deal with it, and that is an INTERNATIONAL problem. Furthermore, who in the fuck is telling you how to run your country? We're all just offering opinions, not making demands. Get a grip. Finally, 95% of people posting who said assault rifles should be banned are Canadian? Check your math buddy.
    Sucks people are smuggling things into your country. Maybe if Canadians relaxed their laws a bit it would cut down on the profit opportunities, thefts, violence that is associated with prohibition of items...just saying. Maybe if you guys built a wall...lol
    Fked up but typical pro gun position. "Fk you I want guns, deal with it."

    So you supported infesting this country with violence and it's spilling over to Canada and now blaming Canadians and their laws?!?!?!?!? Fkn humans.
    What an intellectual response... Who exactly are you quoting, btw, because I sure as hell did not say that.