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    polaris_x said:

    always was a fan of his and the way he played the game ... you need guys like that on your team if you are gonna win a championship ... two-way unselfish players ...

    Iggy is in a good situation. still think he shoots too many 3s but not having to be the man really works for him. Golden State shares the ball so well. They are a joy to watch offensively.
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    edited June 2016

    Love seeing Iguadala shut down Lebron yet again...


    The Iguodala effect:

    Here's a look at LeBron James' 2016 Finals numbers with Andre Iguodala on/off the court.
    On Off
    Min. PG 28.4 8.9
    PPG 17.0 4.0
    FG% 40% 50%
    +/- -41 +12

    this is funny. pretty much playing a box and one...but people will give one guy all the credit. the key to golden state's defense is bogut, not iguodala

    also, kyrie irving is horrendous -- at everything except dribbling around like an ass hole
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    The Fixer said:

    this is funny. pretty much playing a box and one...but people will give one guy all the credit. the key to golden state's defense is bogut, not iguodala

    also, kyrie irving is horrendous -- at everything except dribbling around like an ass hole
    They rotate a ton but if you're saying Iguodala is not having a big effect on Lebron (just like he did last year), I think you're watching a different sport.
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    They rotate a ton but if you're saying Iguodala is not having a big effect on Lebron (just like he did last year), I think you're watching a different sport.
    he's a good defender. to say he's 'shutting him down again' is silly
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    The Fixer said:

    he's a good defender. to say he's 'shutting him down again' is silly
    Well he won the MVP last year largely for his d on Lebron. But, yeah, you can't really shut Lebron down. You can only hope to contain him. I think Iguadala does that about as good as anyone in the league.

    If Lebron remembers how to shoot the ball, that would obviously change things
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    edited June 2016

    Well he won the MVP last year largely for his d on Lebron. But, yeah, you can't really shut Lebron down. You can only hope to contain him. I think Iguadala does that about as good as anyone in the league.

    If Lebron remembers how to shoot the ball, that would obviously change things
    Iguodala's offense had more to do with him winning MVP than his defense. He was golden state's second leading scorer -- shot 50% from the field and 40% on threes.

    Golden state plays great team defense. It's ridiculous to say iguodala 'shut him down again'. That's actually one of the funniest things in a while in these threads
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    The Fixer said:

    Iguodala's offense had more to do with him winning MVP than his defense. He was golden state's second leading scorer -- shot 50% from the field and 40% on threes.

    Golden state plays great team defense. It's ridiculous to say iguodala 'shut him down again'. That's actually one of the funniest things in a while in these threads
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    Didn't LeBron almost average a triple-double last year? Without him the Cavs don't make it to 6 games last year.
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    edited June 2016
    cutz said:

    Didn't LeBron almost average a triple-double last year? Without him the Cavs don't make it to 6 games last year.
    Lebron's always gonna get his numbers that traditional fans will point to. But he was very inefficient last year, and so far this year, largely because of Iggy
    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/andre-iguodalas-defense-on-lebron-helps-him-win-finals-mvp/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/andre-iguodala-studied-how-to-guard-lebron-james-for-11-years-2015-6


    James' shooting in NBA Finals
    When guarded by Andre Iguodala
    CONTESTED UNCONTESTED
    Pct. of attempts 85% 15%
    FG 11-46 7-8
    FG pct. 24% 88%
    Avg. shot distance 11.0 ft 16.5 ft
    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106613/iggy-makes-lebrons-shooting-iffy
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    edited June 2016

    Lebron's always gonna get his numbers that traditional fans will point to. But he was very inefficient last year, and so far this year, largely because of Iggy
    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/andre-iguodalas-defense-on-lebron-helps-him-win-finals-mvp/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/andre-iguodala-studied-how-to-guard-lebron-james-for-11-years-2015-6


    James' shooting in NBA Finals
    When guarded by Andre Iguodala
    CONTESTED UNCONTESTED
    Pct. of attempts 85% 15%
    FG 11-46 7-8
    FG pct. 24% 88%
    Avg. shot distance 11.0 ft 16.5 ft
    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106613/iggy-makes-lebrons-shooting-iffy
    I just asked the question>LOL>I'll take that stat with a grain of salt(just like the WAR stat in baseball). It's not like James & Iggy are out on the court playing one-on-one.

    Inefficient? WOW>I wish the 76ers had a inefficient LeBron James>LOL
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    cutz said:

    I just asked the question>LOL>I'll take that stat with a grain of salt(just like the WAR stat in baseball). It's not like James & Iggy are out on the court playing one-on-one.

    Inefficient? WOW>I wish the 76ers had a inefficient LeBron James>LOL
    Well he's a career 49% shooter who shot 39% and 30% from the perimeter. That's not WAR, that's shooting percentage, Cutz. Granted he did not have a lot of help, but how can you say that is efficient? And while they rotate a lot, Iggy was and this year is, his primary defender.
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    lebron averaged 36 pts per game in the finals last year. saying he was shut down is just flat out dumb
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    The Fixer said:

    lebron averaged 36 pts per game in the finals last year. saying he was shut down is just flat out dumb

    Yeah lots of points. They are easy to point to. However he got them in a horribly efficient way. Forcing the second best player in the game to shoot 11 for 46 on contested shots is good defense.

    And I already said shut down was a poor choice of words. He defended him about as well as anyone could have.
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    edited June 2016

    Well he's a career 49% shooter who shot 39% and 30% from the perimeter. That's not WAR, that's shooting percentage, Cutz. Granted he did not have a lot of help, but how can you say that is efficient? And while they rotate a lot, Iggy was and this year is, his primary defender.
    I take the stat regarding Iggy, because ther is more then 2 players on the court with a grain of salt(Same as WAR, for me). But, he is doing a good job. I'll give him that.

    You wouldn't take LeBron on the 76ers?>LOL>Inefficient or not, i'd take him>LOL
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    cutz said:

    I take the stat regarding Iggy, because ther is more then 2 players on the court with a grain of salt(Same as WAR, for me). But, he is doing a good job. I'll give him that.

    You wouldn't take LeBron on the 76ers?>LOL>Inefficient or not, i'd take him>LOL
    Of course I would. I called him the second best player of all time.

    But that 11 for 46 stat is shots contested by Iguodala. There are not many other players in the league who defend Lebron as well as he does....and he's doing another good job of it tonight, so far.
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    Of course I would. I called him the second best player of all time.

    But that 11 for 46 stat is shots contested by Iguodala. There are not many other players in the league who defend Lebron as well as he does....and he's doing another good job of it tonight, so far.
    2nd best? Who's the best?

    Russell?
    Chamberlain?
    Jordan?
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    cutz said:

    2nd best? Who's the best?

    Russell?
    Chamberlain?
    Jordan?
    MJ...no?
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    cutz said:

    2nd best? Who's the best?

    Russell?
    Chamberlain?
    Jordan?

    what about Magic and Bird? Not sure LeBron has even reached #2 status yet let alone #1.
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    pjhawks said:


    what about Magic and Bird? Not sure LeBron has even reached #2 status yet let alone #1.
    or #10 :lol:
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    MJ...no?
    I don't know, i asked you>LOL>Can't go wrong with Jordan.

    I know some basketball scouts(scout HS talent for Colleges), who are in ther late 60's & 70's(in fact one actually played against Wilt in HS), and they said Chamberlain was the BEST they've ever seen.

    LeBron may be in the top 5 now, but you can make a case for Magic & Bird, without a doubt. Probably splitting a hair there. You can throw Oscar Robertson in there too. Kareem also.

    LeBron has been in the top 10 for a few years already, and he has a few great/good years left in him.

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