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of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?0 -
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster0 -
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster0 -
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster0 -
The East stinks, fella. OKC and Twolves are in the west. And I don't care if only a few teams won less than 30 games. Winning 20 more than the previous year while finally getting to see the likes of Embiid, Saric and Simmons and others will be immensely more fun to watch than the previous few years. Wins and losses take a back seat to seeing what these guys can do finally.....just like with the Phillies this year.
And, yeah I can see them being a playoff team in a couple years. It's not difficult to make the playoffs in the east.www.myspace.com0 -
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.Post edited by pjhawks on0 -
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?www.myspace.com0 -
you said gordon would be better than Randle, which has next to no shot of happening. This will bring your accuracy record around here to 0 - 3,927,792. An amazing achievement. Congrats.pjhawks said:
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.
I think Embiid has all star potential.0 -
I agree on Embiid's potential I just think it is going to take time because of his lack of experience and playing time. To think he is going to be great right off that bat after missing 2 years is just not realistic.The Fixer said:
you said gordon would be better than Randle, which has next to no shot of happening. This will bring your accuracy record around here to 0 - 3,927,792. An amazing achievement. Congrats.pjhawks said:
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.
I think Embiid has all star potential.
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no one ever said he was going to step on the court and be tim duncan. reading is hardpjhawks said:
I agree on Embiid's potential I just think it is going to take time because of his lack of experience and playing time. To think he is going to be great right off that bat after missing 2 years is just not realistic.The Fixer said:
you said gordon would be better than Randle, which has next to no shot of happening. This will bring your accuracy record around here to 0 - 3,927,792. An amazing achievement. Congrats.pjhawks said:
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.
I think Embiid has all star potential.0 -
IF/when they make a trade or free agent signing then i will readjust my line of thinking to go with the roster but as of now thinking playoffs in 2 years is just setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.The Juggler said:
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?0 -
As usual, no foresight. Not surprising whatsoeverpjhawks said:
IF/when they make a trade or free agent signing then i will readjust my line of thinking to go with the roster but as of now thinking playoffs in 2 years is just setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.The Juggler said:
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?
Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
i'd take gordon over randle easy ... gordon's ceiling higher than randle ... sometimes it's about system and opportunity ... playing under skiles is no easy thing ... now, that he's gone ... that should allow gordon to grow ...pjhawks said:
I agree on Embiid's potential I just think it is going to take time because of his lack of experience and playing time. To think he is going to be great right off that bat after missing 2 years is just not realistic.The Fixer said:
you said gordon would be better than Randle, which has next to no shot of happening. This will bring your accuracy record around here to 0 - 3,927,792. An amazing achievement. Congrats.pjhawks said:
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.
I think Embiid has all star potential.0 -
in the eastern conference!?? ... frig ... sixers could make the playoffs next year ... that's how bad the east is ...pjhawks said:
IF/when they make a trade or free agent signing then i will readjust my line of thinking to go with the roster but as of now thinking playoffs in 2 years is just setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.The Juggler said:
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?0 -
ill tell you what since you are so fucking smart put your money up on your prediction of the playoffs in 2 years. Let's bet a $500 donation to the others persons favorite charity on the Sixers making the playoffs in the next 2 years. If you are so confident feel free to take the bet.The Juggler said:
As usual, no foresight. Not surprising whatsoeverpjhawks said:
IF/when they make a trade or free agent signing then i will readjust my line of thinking to go with the roster but as of now thinking playoffs in 2 years is just setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.The Juggler said:
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?0 -
Completely disagree. Gordon can't shoot to save his life. He's more athletic than Randle, but Randle is a better all around player.polaris_x said:
i'd take gordon over randle easy ... gordon's ceiling higher than randle ... sometimes it's about system and opportunity ... playing under skiles is no easy thing ... now, that he's gone ... that should allow gordon to grow ...pjhawks said:
I agree on Embiid's potential I just think it is going to take time because of his lack of experience and playing time. To think he is going to be great right off that bat after missing 2 years is just not realistic.The Fixer said:
you said gordon would be better than Randle, which has next to no shot of happening. This will bring your accuracy record around here to 0 - 3,927,792. An amazing achievement. Congrats.pjhawks said:
still like him. He's only played a year and half because of injury. still think he is going to be a very good NBA player.The Fixer said:
you're also the guy who loved aaron gordon coming out of Arizona. Soooo...yeahpjhawks said:
Embiid hasn't played in 2 years and only played 1/2 season in college. If healthy i agree he has a chance to be a stud but it's going to take time for him to get acclimated to the NBA. If healthy I still think it takes him 2-3 years to become a really good NBA player.The Fixer said:
of course. All of the assets and the foundation that Hinkie built gives them numerous options on how to build their roster. They definitely won't be using all of those picks, but it gives them flexibility and options to make moves.polaris_x said:
for sure looks like a great situation ... the only thing i would say is that basketball isn't like hockey or baseball ... you only play 10 guys of which your top 5 get most of the run ... within that top 5 - you need 2.5 elite talents (0.5 elite being your 6th man) and role players ... you also need continuity ... if this was hockey/baseball ... i'd say you are set up for a nice long run ... but because of salary caps and the smaller roster - the window to figure this out isn't as long as you think ...The Fixer said:
they could add 7 lottery picks to their roster over the next three yearspolaris_x said:this is the eastern conference here ... and the nba which is driven by top end talent ... if you are gonna name the top 5 players in the league ... a lot of peeps gonna pick lebron, steph, westbrook and durant ... and they are all in the CF ... raptors could have been any team in the east to be quite honest ... sixers could easily make playoffs next year because the east is that bad ...
embiid, saric, simmons/ingram this year
sixers pick, lakers pick next year
sixers pick, kings pick the following year
also have the most cap space in the league. conceivable at some point that they can add two max free agents
possibilities for adding talent are endless. they could definitely make playoffs next year -- all depends on what the offseason looks like. Again, I just hope they don't rush things to get into the playoffs.
I can't wait to see Embiid this year. I still think he's going to be an absolute monster
do you really think Embiid is going to dominate after not playing for 2 years? i mean the consensus when healthy at Kansas that he was still going to be a bit of a project in the NBA because of his lack of experience. i guess in your mind that has changed after sitting out 2 years.
I think Embiid has all star potential.
Randle won't have Kobe in his way this year. Kobe was more detrimental than Skiles0 -
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3 out of the last 4 years a team in the east has made the playoffs with 38 wins. The Pacers got in with 37 wins in 2011. The eastern conference blows. Sure I'll take your dumb bet.pjhawks said:
ill tell you what since you are so fucking smart put your money up on your prediction of the playoffs in 2 years. Let's bet a $500 donation to the others persons favorite charity on the Sixers making the playoffs in the next 2 years. If you are so confident feel free to take the bet.The Juggler said:
As usual, no foresight. Not surprising whatsoeverpjhawks said:
IF/when they make a trade or free agent signing then i will readjust my line of thinking to go with the roster but as of now thinking playoffs in 2 years is just setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.The Juggler said:
Yes I am. I am fully expecting this roster to look vastly different in a year or two after they figure out which pieces fit and which pieces don't. The point is they have an abundance of ways to get better and get better quicker than narrow minded people like you think.pjhawks said:
of course but juggler isn't saying they are going to make the playoffs in two years based on a supposed trade. with the players they have now and the draft picks to come they aren't making the playoffs in the next two years. no fucking chance.The Fixer said:
are you aware that teams can make trades in the nba? doesn't seem like you arepjhawks said:
the underlined above is delusional and frankly utterly insane. so in 2 years they are going from 10 wins to a playoff team? sorry but that's utterly fucking absurd unless they sign a top 10 level free agent to add to the mix of young guys.The Juggler said:
Haha. Well I think them winning another 20 games next year would be a good start to that turn around. Wouldn't shock me to see them be in the mix for the 8th seed for a while as well. But wins and losses next year take a back seat to actually seeing the fruits of the last few season's labor on the floor together finally--they'll just have so much more talent that it will be hard not to be significantly better. And '17/'18 they should be a playoff team for sure.
God bless Sam Hinkie. They can now let these seeds start to sprout and get better while still have a shot at not one but two top ten picks over the next couple years.
Future's bright, my friends.
Go Sixers
I guess you didn't quite understand the first time i mentioned that winning 20 more games next year still puts them in the bottom 5 of the NBA and nowhere near close to the playoffs. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown next year and the following year. Yes they will have a big talent upgrade but it will be incredibly young and inexperienced. It took OKC with Durant 3 years to make the playoffs. The T'Wolves with the last 2 NBA Rookies of the Year only won 29 games this year (albeit in a much tougher conference). and you expect this team and franchise to get 40 some wins in 2 years?www.myspace.com0 -
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