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Haha, yeah, I saw it there on AET and went to the defense of Prius owners. Now there's irony for you. I supposed environmental fanatic (me) defending a machine on an earth day thread. I think I need more coffee this morning.hedonist said:B, as someone mentioned to GF on his Prince thread, venture into other forums.
It's there.
Looking forward to a few no-drive days on my days off!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I wrote a response to what you wrote about Prius owners but thankfully saved it as a draft
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Comes out May 2nd
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Comes out May 2nd
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ya ... let's get the truth about global warming from exxon ... it's twenty fucking sixteen people ...0 -
Hey, sock it to me, baby! No, seriously, my intent is not to defend any choice of vehicle, not even the Prius or Tesla, and although to my knowledge those two vehicle choices are some of the best in terms of least environmental impact, they are still cars and they are problematic for the environment for a number of reasons:hedonist said:I wrote a response to what you wrote about Prius owners but thankfully saved it as a draft
They use oil and plastic is oil.
Because they are manufactured, they pollute.
Because they have tires and the friction of tires on roads releases cadmium, they are toxic.
They incorporate heavy metals and those metals are often mined and shipped long distances cause further pollution.
All makes of cars, including the Prius, kill animals and people.
A lot of mining goes into extracting the resources that are used to build automobiles.
They cause noise pollution.
Etc., ad nauseam.
Don't worry, I make no pretense and have no false illusion that the Prius will "save the environment". But if you drive (most of us do; all hail PJ_Soul who does not!) and you are concerned about the environment, perhaps choose your vehicle wisely.
Even more helpful is to take as many no-drive days as possible, ride share, combine as many errands per outing as possible, etc. That's what I do anyway but I'm not here to tell others what to do, just to make suggestions. I too am an environmental sinner.
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We don't celebrate it either. We live an Earth life.brianlux said:Good point Cate. Excellent point. It really illustrates our tendency to always look for a way around an environmental concern rather than look at it honestly and realistically. We humans think we are clever enough to continue to alter nature, extract beyond what the earth has to give, expand out population beyond a reasonable number and expect to somehow have it all our way.
On another note- today is "Earth Day". I notice we do not have an Earth Day thread. And I hve not started one because, in what my be a selfish and immature response, I do not celebrate Earth Day. That's because for me, everyday is Earth Day. Not a day goes by that I don't think about the earth and thank Mother Nature for sustenance and beauty and feel concern for the health of the planet. Sometimes I wonder if I should be less selfish and participate on this day.
We are elitists lol
I look at the people who go to the park on Earth Day and feel good about it with light hearted contempt lol
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Though there's lots of pollution and resources consumed making electrics they will last longer and need far fewer parts to keep running.brianlux said:
Hey, sock it to me, baby! No, seriously, my intent is not to defend any choice of vehicle, not even the Prius or Tesla, and although to my knowledge those two vehicle choices are some of the best in terms of least environmental impact, they are still cars and they are problematic for the environment for a number of reasons:hedonist said:I wrote a response to what you wrote about Prius owners but thankfully saved it as a draft
They use oil and plastic is oil.
Because they are manufactured, they pollute.
Because they have tires and the friction of tires on roads releases cadmium, they are toxic.
They incorporate heavy metals and those metals are often mined and shipped long distances cause further pollution.
All makes of cars, including the Prius, kill animals and people.
A lot of mining goes into extracting the resources that are used to build automobiles.
They cause noise pollution.
Etc., ad nauseam.
Don't worry, I make no pretense and have no false illusion that the Prius will "save the environment". But if you drive (most of us do; all hail PJ_Soul who does not!) and you are concerned about the environment, perhaps choose your vehicle wisely.
Even more helpful is to take as many no-drive days as possible, ride share, combine as many errands per outing as possible, etc. That's what I do anyway but I'm not here to tell others what to do, just to make suggestions. I too am an environmental sinner.
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Yes, Callen, electronics could be made to last a long time but "planned obsolescence" has been the way of industry for several decades. Companies can't make more stuff if things don't break down.callen said:
Though there's lots of pollution and resources consumed making electrics they will last longer and need far fewer parts to keep running.brianlux said:
Hey, sock it to me, baby! No, seriously, my intent is not to defend any choice of vehicle, not even the Prius or Tesla, and although to my knowledge those two vehicle choices are some of the best in terms of least environmental impact, they are still cars and they are problematic for the environment for a number of reasons:hedonist said:I wrote a response to what you wrote about Prius owners but thankfully saved it as a draft
They use oil and plastic is oil.
Because they are manufactured, they pollute.
Because they have tires and the friction of tires on roads releases cadmium, they are toxic.
They incorporate heavy metals and those metals are often mined and shipped long distances cause further pollution.
All makes of cars, including the Prius, kill animals and people.
A lot of mining goes into extracting the resources that are used to build automobiles.
They cause noise pollution.
Etc., ad nauseam.
Don't worry, I make no pretense and have no false illusion that the Prius will "save the environment". But if you drive (most of us do; all hail PJ_Soul who does not!) and you are concerned about the environment, perhaps choose your vehicle wisely.
Even more helpful is to take as many no-drive days as possible, ride share, combine as many errands per outing as possible, etc. That's what I do anyway but I'm not here to tell others what to do, just to make suggestions. I too am an environmental sinner.
A very skilled mechanic friend told me that the repair shops for certain auto manufacture's (I won't say who since I can't confirm this) complained that the cars were not breaking down quickly enough so the manufacturer went to cheaper parts. Way to go , industry. :eyesrolling:"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
if you believe in moore's law ... we could generate the entire planet's energy needs 8 times over with just renewables by the year 2070 ...0
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anger makes everyone ugly.Free said:
The truth makes her angry! And she's ugly when she's angry.brianlux said:
Hillary can't handle the truth!Free said:Lets watch Hillary go off on a Greenpeace activist when they ask about Hillary being tied to the fossil fuels industry.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A
http://fair.org/home/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-to-check/
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Presented without comment.
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No need for comment really- the end result and consequences of an incident like this speak for themselves- at least for those who have eyes to see, ears to hear.mickeyrat said:Presented without comment.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tens-thousands-gallons-crude-oil-spill-gulf-mexico-n573311"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
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This is true, I kid you not:
It is May 20 and here in north-central California it is 42 degrees Fahrenheit with a chilly rain coming down. GLOBAL WARMING IS OVER!
Oh wait, its was almost ninety degrees here just a couple days ago. Sorry, never mind!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I heard on the radio today that June is expected to be the warmest on record.
I can't wait!0 -
You must live above the 60 degree meridian.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I heard on the radio today that June is expected to be the warmest on record.
I can't wait!
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Weather isn't climate until it is0
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BS44325 said:
Weather isn't climate until it is
And I'm glad you get that my last two posts were in jest, LOL!
It's interesting though how often weather is used to discuss/argue "climate change" (aka global warming). Wooden nickels."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Like 16 years of drought out West drawing Lake Mead to it's lowest level ever.BS44325 said:Weather isn't climate until it is
I know that's not what you meant but it's literally true lol
Soon Hoover Dam won't generate power anymore and the Southwest is going to be up a creek without a creek.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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