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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Corals kryptonite warming water (sunscreen no good got it either)

    http://m.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2016/02/coral-reef-NOAA-climate-el-nino
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    http://www.earthables.com/biodegradable-algae-water-bottles-1682275071.html

    Biodegradable Algae Water Bottles That'll Save Our Planet From Plastic
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Free said:

    http://www.earthables.com/biodegradable-algae-water-bottles-1682275071.html

    Biodegradable Algae Water Bottles That'll Save Our Planet From Plastic

    And you can eat it!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    yea it says it's only reusable up to 8-10 times though. So I'm probably going to stick with the mesh ones. I just want to see them in person before I waste $12 on them.

    Yes, but reusable 8 - 10 times per bag probably prevents like $20 worth of food waste if you're having trouble keeping produce fresh. And that's just reusable when it comes to keeping the produce fresh. After that you can use the bags for whatever else you want. This is about not wasting food rather than for not using bags.... No joke, I probably save at least $300 a year in produce with these things.
    maybe a rethink of how you buy your food? if your food is wasting perhaps you've bought too much to use within its particular life span or your menu hasn't been planned to optimum level. I find if the vegetables(for instance) I buy that come in plastic should be removed from that packaging. I do this cause I don't know how long its been sitting in that plastic. dependent on what the vegetable is I either pop it into a reusable container and wipe out both the contain and the vegetable every couple of days to remove condensation. or if I store them in plastic bags, every time I remove what I need for cooking I turn the bag inside out and if need be wipe the vegetables(again to remove condensation) before returning it all to the fridge.
    having said all that I do find our household wasting more apples that I care for. our dog loves cored apples stuffed with peanut butter but its a treat for him. so apples get wasted. im thinking about getting a goat. :)

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    yea it says it's only reusable up to 8-10 times though. So I'm probably going to stick with the mesh ones. I just want to see them in person before I waste $12 on them.

    Yes, but reusable 8 - 10 times per bag probably prevents like $20 worth of food waste if you're having trouble keeping produce fresh. And that's just reusable when it comes to keeping the produce fresh. After that you can use the bags for whatever else you want. This is about not wasting food rather than for not using bags.... No joke, I probably save at least $300 a year in produce with these things.
    maybe a rethink of how you buy your food? if your food is wasting perhaps you've bought too much to use within its particular life span or your menu hasn't been planned to optimum level. I find if the vegetables(for instance) I buy that come in plastic should be removed from that packaging. I do this cause I don't know how long its been sitting in that plastic. dependent on what the vegetable is I either pop it into a reusable container and wipe out both the contain and the vegetable every couple of days to remove condensation. or if I store them in plastic bags, every time I remove what I need for cooking I turn the bag inside out and if need be wipe the vegetables(again to remove condensation) before returning it all to the fridge.
    having said all that I do find our household wasting more apples that I care for. our dog loves cored apples stuffed with peanut butter but its a treat for him. so apples get wasted. im thinking about getting a goat. :)

    But I have already found the solution to food wasting. The green bags. :) I no longer have a food wasting issue, and the green bags are wonderful and work better than any other method.
    But FWIW, and why i need the greeb bags, one person really has no choice in how to buy a lot of produce (and keep it affordable). A head of lettuce is a head of lettuce. A cauliflower is a cauliflower. A pineapple is a pineapple. And so on. I can't very well go to the market and start tearing cabbages in half, lol. ;)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    yea it says it's only reusable up to 8-10 times though. So I'm probably going to stick with the mesh ones. I just want to see them in person before I waste $12 on them.

    Yes, but reusable 8 - 10 times per bag probably prevents like $20 worth of food waste if you're having trouble keeping produce fresh. And that's just reusable when it comes to keeping the produce fresh. After that you can use the bags for whatever else you want. This is about not wasting food rather than for not using bags.... No joke, I probably save at least $300 a year in produce with these things.
    maybe a rethink of how you buy your food? if your food is wasting perhaps you've bought too much to use within its particular life span or your menu hasn't been planned to optimum level. I find if the vegetables(for instance) I buy that come in plastic should be removed from that packaging. I do this cause I don't know how long its been sitting in that plastic. dependent on what the vegetable is I either pop it into a reusable container and wipe out both the contain and the vegetable every couple of days to remove condensation. or if I store them in plastic bags, every time I remove what I need for cooking I turn the bag inside out and if need be wipe the vegetables(again to remove condensation) before returning it all to the fridge.
    having said all that I do find our household wasting more apples that I care for. our dog loves cored apples stuffed with peanut butter but its a treat for him. so apples get wasted. im thinking about getting a goat. :)

    But I have already found the solution to food wasting. The green bags. :) I no longer have a food wasting issue, and the green bags are wonderful and work better than any other method.
    But FWIW, and why i need the greeb bags, one person really has no choice in how to buy a lot of produce (and keep it affordable). A head of lettuce is a head of lettuce. A cauliflower is a cauliflower. A pineapple is a pineapple. And so on. I can't very well go to the market and start tearing cabbages in half, lol. ;)
    no cause thatd be weird pjsoul. ;) lol

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Rather than start another environment thread, let;s do this here. Great message here from the marvelous Jeff Bridges:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9znvqIkIM-A
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    polaris_x said:
    I caught a glimpse of what I believe was a Tesla the other day. The license plate read "NOE OIL".
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited April 2016
    Lets watch Hillary go off on a Greenpeace activist when they ask about Hillary being tied to the fossil fuels industry.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

    http://fair.org/home/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-to-check/
    Post edited by Free on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Free said:

    Lets watch Hillary go off on a Greenpeace activist when they ask about Hillary being tied to the fossil fuels industry.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

    http://fair.org/home/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-to-check/

    Damn, she just about poked the poor in the chin with that finger!

    Hillary can't handle the truth!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    Lets watch Hillary go off on a Greenpeace activist when they ask about Hillary being tied to the fossil fuels industry.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

    http://fair.org/home/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-to-check/

    Hillary can't handle the truth!
    The truth makes her angry! And she's ugly when she's angry.
  • Free said:

    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    Lets watch Hillary go off on a Greenpeace activist when they ask about Hillary being tied to the fossil fuels industry.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A

    http://fair.org/home/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-to-check/

    Hillary can't handle the truth!
    The truth makes her angry! And she's ugly when she's angry.
    Trump is angry. I wonder from what truths though?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Clinton, says Greenpeace campaign director Molly Dorozenski, is "conflating Greenpeace with the Sanders campaign, but we are an independent organization. Earlier this year, we asked both Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders to sign our pledge to #fixdemocracy, and while Sanders signed, Clinton did not."

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/01/greenpeace-sanders-hold-ground-against-clinton-fossil-fuel-feud
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    ^^^ The article linked by Free is well worth checking out as well.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    brianlux said:

    polaris_x said:
    I caught a glimpse of what I believe was a Tesla the other day. The license plate read "NOE OIL".
    You'll still need oil to make that vehicle...But still a step in the right direction.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    brianlux said:

    polaris_x said:
    I caught a glimpse of what I believe was a Tesla the other day. The license plate read "NOE OIL".
    You'll still need oil to make that vehicle...But still a step in the right direction.
    I'm glad you pointed that out. It was my first thought as well. It also requires energy to recharge an electric and not all energy, as we well know, is clean energy. But yes, it is a step in the right direction for sure. The ultimate solutions of course begin with reduced driving, shared rides, public transport, more walkable city centers, and reduced population.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    brianlux said:

    polaris_x said:
    I caught a glimpse of what I believe was a Tesla the other day. The license plate read "NOE OIL".
    You'll still need oil to make that vehicle...But still a step in the right direction.
    That's the most compelling reason supporting the sustainable energy movement.
    The greatest folly of history will be that we burned all our oil for energy and didn't save any for the thousands of uses that are vital to modern medicine, science, and comfortable living. Fossil fuels are magical chemistry materials that won't easily be replicated.
    We can't make MRI machines out of sunlight, we can't turn wind into lifesaving dialysis machines, and we won't be able convert tidal, geothermal, or wave energy into polymers and alloys.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    the thing about tesla is that beyond expediting the common sense means of transportation ... they are also putting a wrench into what has been a fraud all along ... which is the auto industry ... how is it that with their second car - they managed to score the highest consumer ratings report on a vehicle ever!? ... for the longest time the auto industry has been a failure in so many ways - primarily, creating an industry that survives on intentionally poor design and manufacturing ...

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    polaris_x said:

    the thing about tesla is that beyond expediting the common sense means of transportation ... they are also putting a wrench into what has been a fraud all along ... which is the auto industry ... how is it that with their second car - they managed to score the highest consumer ratings report on a vehicle ever!? ... for the longest time the auto industry has been a failure in so many ways - primarily, creating an industry that survives on intentionally poor design and manufacturing ...

    When we purchased our last vehicle (one I expect to have for at least 300K miles) we read all the consumer reports we could get our hands on. That vehicle happens to be a Prius. I worked an extra side job for 4 years to help make that purchase because it means a lot to me to make a major purchase that is as durable as possible. The lowest rated we read about were for (surprisingly) Mercedes and (not surprisingly) Hummer. In fact Hummer had the lowest rating of all. A total piece of crap. So good for Tesla for going quality.

    I had a friend in the auto industry who once told me, "With our current technology, there is no reason the auto industry cannot make a long lasting automobile. Every auto should could be made to last it's owner a life-time". He told me that in 1972.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni