Abbruzzese's PJ cassette collection?

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  • gibbits
    gibbits Posts: 522
    What a treasure, so jealous and wishing I could hear these!
  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    tough one to answer. I wouldnt compare it to Immortality at all, rather has parts that remind me of the drumming from Last Exit and then guitar chords that are reminiscent of Out of My Mind. Has slower tempo verses and more upbeat chorus.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    This thread is GOLD
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Fastrichie
    Fastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 921
    Thanks for all the info on these.
    I first heard of the stuffins tape back in 2011 at the EV show at the beacon from a guy from NY. He mentioned owner was on it, and I had read that interview with krusen and it all made sense. That's the last I'd heard of it till a few weeks ago.
    Now I know it's real!
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    its definitely real. Also includes a small snippet of Mike playing Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast (as he is known to do from time to time....)



  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    This thread is GOLD

    I would rather hear the stuff
  • Fastrichie
    Fastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 921
    cockage said:

    its definitely real. Also includes a small snippet of Mike playing Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast (as he is known to do from time to time....)

    Yea I think he played a bit of beast at MSG or Boston back in 2010.
    I'll see if I can dig up that Krusen interview where he talks about owner. I think it was around the time of the release of the ten bonus disc stuff. Said it was one of the first songs they played together. But Being on the same tape as leash now has me doubting my memory!



    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


  • wwsuicide
    wwsuicide Posts: 1,400
    Thanks cockage! Excellent stuff here ....and I feel weird thanking "cockage" btw
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,510
    cockage said:

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    I'm really interested in the history of these tapes.....to present. If you're willing to share
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    my2hands said:

    This thread is GOLD

    I would rather hear the stuff
    Maybe the "Listening on Cassette" thread...
    I'd Nakamichi 'em...

    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    So much golden stuff.. and so little of it in the super deluxe's ecc.. thanks cockage for the info, but i must admit, reading about whats contained in those tapes and can't listen to it is a torture..
  • faithful2you
    faithful2you Madison, WI Posts: 779

    So much golden stuff.. and so little of it in the super deluxe's ecc.. thanks cockage for the info, but i must admit, reading about whats contained in those tapes and can't listen to it is a torture..

    Yep
    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    theres no quicker way to get a thread locked than by posting links to download unreleased material. this isnt a sprint, its a marathon. Its been kept safe for over 20 years...finally unearthed last year and has taken this much time to properly digitize / categorize / label everything appropriately. those that know me, know that i treat others as i wish to be treated and trust in the fact that im always working to share the wealth as best as i can. lets not forget that i didnt start this thread....but rather than let it get out of hand with rumors and conjecture, i figured it would be smart to jump ahead of that all and provide people with the facts / info as best as i can....

    that being said, im happy to continue answering questions should anyone have any, but please dont ask me to post links for this material in this thread.
  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    edited March 2016
    From a conversation I had with Dave a few years back when Wishing well first surfaced. This should add some clarity to whether he was on drums for Owner. (he was not)
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    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    great! thanks for digging that out and helping add some clarity to it all...
    separately, 2 more tapes just added to the original linked page. More info of those 2 new ones coming shortly....
  • Fastrichie
    Fastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 921
    "No this is totally different. I’ve never seen or heard of these before this demo tape. Let’s see, there’s a demo of leash that’s on here too. Nothing I’ve seen or heard before and not like on the Versus remix. The best part of the tape – or maybe not he best – but the most interesting part is a cover of “Owner of a Lonely Heart” by Yes. It’s….interesting. [laughing] It’s Eddie doing a falsetto. The best part is at the end you can hear Ed say to the producer Rick Parashar “Rick, don’t ever tell anybody we did this.”

    If the Parashar part is true it has to be with Dave Krusen right? I can't find the interview where Krusen talks about owner of a lonely heart, but there were a few places that confirmed it was the same session as wishing well.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


  • Fastrichie
    Fastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 921
    Wishing Well (written by The Free, Mookie Blaylock, 1990)
    *this one isn't live, but was actually recorded during the 'ten' sessions w/ Dave Krusen. the band also did a few other covers during these sessions including 'owner of a lonely heart', 'it ain't like that', and 'touch me i'm sick' plus the 'touch me i'm dick' version as heard briefly in 'Singles'.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    i came across this article from Modern Drummer (http://www.lukin.com/Articles/md12-93.html) in which Dave talks about one of the first things hes done with the band.

    "DA (Dave Abbruzzese): Just a couple of weeks after I joined the band, actually, we went into the studio and recorded "State Of Love And Trust" and another version of "Even Flow" for a video we were doing. We ended up using that version of "Even Flow" with some film we'd shot of a show at the Moore Theater in Seattle because, by chance, they synced up really well together."

    The version of Evenflow from the Masterdisc tape dated 2/3/92 is in fact the version from the Evenflow video that is referenced above. The B-side to the tape however, is Breath and not State of Love and Trust.

    tape can be seen here: https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/pearl-jam-02-03-92-masterdisk



  • elwayvedder
    elwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,172
    best thread ever
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
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