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Did a quick search on the Post...couldn't find any articles on the execution in Hebron...Thank god they informed us of that poor defenceless Israeli flag, ripped to shreds and left to die in the streets...no doubt a victim of anti-semetism and radical Islam. Classy.0
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This guy got pretty classy at the memorial as well...Drowned Out said:Did a quick search on the Post...couldn't find any articles on the execution in Hebron...Thank god they informed us of that poor defenceless Israeli flag, ripped to shreds and left to die in the streets...no doubt a victim of anti-semetism and radical Islam. Classy.
http://youtu.be/obSBOO7aJNM
I am not sure what point he is trying to make...Does the current status quo in "Palestine" justify the attacks? Do people in Brussels not have the right to mourn because of the plight of the Palestinian people?0 -
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
considering it is in brussels, i highly doubt it.BS44325 said:
I wonder if any of the posters on this thread were one of the people who tore or stomped on the Israeli flag placed at the Brussels memorialrr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/24/woman-in-hijab-rips-up-israeli-flag-at-brussels-memorial/
stop being a fool."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Jewish settlers threaten life of Palestinian who shot video of execution - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/jewish-settlers-threaten-life-of-palestinian-who-shot-video-of-execution/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_content=56f6f9ba04d301078da2e99f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#sthash.cPxoC4k4.dpuf
Ma’an reports that the man who shot the video documenting the execution of an incapacitated Palestinian suspect two days ago in Hebron has received death threats from Jewish settlers who occupy the city.
Israeli settlers on Friday gathered outside the home of a human rights worker in Hebron to hurl abuse at him, a day after he captured on camera an Israeli soldier’s killing of a wounded Palestinian that has sparked international outcry.
Ma’an states that the videographer, Imad Abu Shamsiya, said, “I now fear for my life and the life of my family. I’m afraid they might attack my house and do me harm.”
Human Rights Watch confirms the threats on Shamsiya, conveyed from settlers by soldiers to the photographer:
Imad Abu Shamsiyyeh.. told Human Rights Watch in a phone interview that Israeli forces had threatened him both at the scene and later, when he went to give a statement to the military. A few minutes after he filmed the shooting from the roof of a nearby building, he said, “more journalists gathered on the roof, and the Israeli soldiers noticed us. They pointed their guns at us and screamed at us to get down. Soldiers came into the building and told the [owner] not to allow people there or the family would pay the price.”
Abu Shamsiyyeh said that after B’Tselem shared the video with military investigators, the military asked him to give a statement. During questioning at a military office in Hebron, Abu Shamsiyyeh said he felt the interrogator was trying to intimidate him to make him say that he had not filmed the video:
“He told me, ‘How will you benefit from this video? It got a lot of publicity. Your name is known to everyone. Who is going to protect you and your family from right-wing Israelis? Remember you live in [Tel Rumeida], surrounded by Israeli settlers, who will be able to protect you there?’ I felt that I was being threatened. They took the original footage from me.”
Abu Shamsiyyeh said he had received two phone calls on March 24 from a Hebrew-speaker, calling from a private number, but did not understand what was said. “I feel in danger and my children are afraid,” Abu Shamsiyyeh told Human Rights Watch. “I’m not letting them out of the house. I’m afraid of walking in the street.”
Badia Dwaik of Human Rights Defenders in Hebron also confirms the report of threats to Shamsiya since the video was posted. He writes that Shamsiya is a volunteer with his organization. Dwaik relates his conversation with Shamsiya after the video was published.
Imad recounts the execution incident:
“On Thursday morning at 8:30, I was having coffee with my wife Faiza as usual when I heard several bullet shots near my house in Tel-Rumeida. I left the house quickly with my video camera towards the location of shooting.The first thing I saw was an Israeli soldier on the side of the street pointing his rifle at a young man on the ground who was wearing a black jacket and black trousers. While filming I heard noises from other soldiers so I pointed the camera towards the noise where I saw another young man covered in his blood, with blood coming out of his face. This man was wearing a grey jacket, while the first guy in black seemed to be still alive as I was filming. In less than a minute, a large group of soldiers and settlers gathered in the location and an Israeli ambulance arrived and gave aid to an Israeli soldier without attending to either Palestinian men. The man in the grey jacket didn’t move while the man in black was moving his arms and legs while on the ground. After the solider was put in the ambulance, I heard the soldiers getting ready to shoot while I was still filming, and a soldier stepped towards the man wearing a black jacket, shooting him in the head directly from a very close distance even though he didn’t form any threat to the soldiers or settlers as he was on the ground. The man immediately died and his head was blown up to pieces visible on the ground. This is what I documented with my camera from the Human Rights Defenders Group and what I saw with my eye, and my wife Faiza was with me all the time helping me record.”
Dwaik says the execution is part of a pattern of control of the Palestinian population near the Hebron settlements.
Since the start of Intifada in October, occupation forces have carried out several tactics to make life even harder for Palestinians by rebuilding and expanding the military checkpoint on Al-Shuhada street [in Hebron]; the checkpoint consists of two lanes now for entry and exit, where a thorough inspection inside the ‘container ‘is carried out through a glass barrier with CCTV and recording devices, and the residents are required to show their ID and a number that identifies the place of their residence. Each person is required to carry such a number, in what is a new strategy to displace the residents by making life impossible.
Hadeel Hashlamon: a beginning for the executions
The series of executions started with the murder of martyr Hadeel Hashlamon, which was documented by a volunteer from Brazil working with Eappi program. The photos were distributed to international media agencies, and the volunteer recounted the story on his own blog. Since then,the area witnessed more execution-style murders from Tel-Rumeida through Al-Salemeh neighbourhood, to the illegal settlement of Kiryat Arba, forming an Israeli settlement belt known as the Jewish neighbourhood that came to exist after expelling Palestinians through a number of policies.
The map of executions is not random
The locations of these execution-style murders is seen to be in areas around settlers, especially in Hebron; Imad says that 13 murders in cold blood were carried out in Tel-Rumeida and Al-Shuhada street, as well as executions near Al-Ibrahimi mosque and Kiryat Arba.This is in addition to Palestinians murdered in what is known as Gush Etzion north of Hebron, and Beit Enon [east of Hebron]. This makes it clear that there is a plan to cement the settler reality and escalate strategies against the residents of the land, particularly in the heart of Hebron to link all settlements through the Jewish neighbourhood, using all policies possible of ethnic cleansing and silent displacement, making Hebron a living example of apartheid in the world today.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
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Which makes it a discussion that is proportional to the death toll in the conflict.rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
so start a i love isreal circle jerk thread then.rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
you are irritated because there are people posting in this thread from countries all over the world that recognize what is going on and they call out the israeli government for their actions.
you should be very mindful of how flippantly you are throwing around the term "hate". none of us hate jewish people. none of us are antisemitic, none of us are advocating any sort of violence. none of us are advocating war against israel. we oppose the actions of the israeli government and its frequent violations of international law. BIG DIFFERENCE.
all we want is for the settlements to stop, the land theft to stop, the human rights abuses to stop, and that the israeli government to adhere to the un resolutions and to capitulate to the pressure of the international community to stop doing what israel is doing.
what acts of the palestinians do you disagree with?
it has been said a thousand times on here, but the actions of the palestinians are in direct response to the illegal israeli occupation.
how about israel come to your state, build walls around it, claim that the land of your state is theirs by divine right, choke off your water supply, choke off your building supplies, prevent trade and items coming into your state, start building jewish only roads, jewish only parts of the state, bulldozing homes owned by people of your state, and expanding ultra right wing settlements with ultra right wing settlers.
let all of this happen and after a few years of that, come back here and tell us how you feel about it and how you would oppose it.
deal?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
First I am part of the 1% and now I'm part of the 2%!rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.0 -
I am not sure if it is worse here or on twitter where the Israel haters are bow protesting Wonder Woman...rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
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^^^BS44325 said:
I am not sure if it is worse here or on twitter where the Israel haters are bow protesting Wonder Woman...rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
THESE people are haters. not your normal amt poster.
i would never not see a movie because of the beliefs of a certain actor/actress. i refuse to see this movie because it sucks.Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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You know I never said anyone was anti Semitic or Was bashing Jews.Ive always worded my responses to make that clear.I know your positions Rod,and although I don't agree with all of them I know enough to know you don't come from a place of hate.That has never been my angle per say.I would debate this with Nart who I get along with also and I'd feel the same way.He wasn't a racist.Ben,who is a Jew feels strongly as well.gimmesometruth27 said:
so start a i love isreal circle jerk thread then.rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
you are irritated because there are people posting in this thread from countries all over the world that recognize what is going on and they call out the israeli government for their actions.
you should be very mindful of how flippantly you are throwing around the term "hate". none of us hate jewish people. none of us are antisemitic, none of us are advocating any sort of violence. none of us are advocating war against israel. we oppose the actions of the israeli government and its frequent violations of international law. BIG DIFFERENCE.
all we want is for the settlements to stop, the land theft to stop, the human rights abuses to stop, and that the israeli government to adhere to the un resolutions and to capitulate to the pressure of the international community to stop doing what israel is doing.
what acts of the palestinians do you disagree with?
it has been said a thousand times on here, but the actions of the palestinians are in direct response to the illegal israeli occupation.
how about israel come to your state, build walls around it, claim that the land of your state is theirs by divine right, choke off your water supply, choke off your building supplies, prevent trade and items coming into your state, start building jewish only roads, jewish only parts of the state, bulldozing homes owned by people of your state, and expanding ultra right wing settlements with ultra right wing settlers.
let all of this happen and after a few years of that, come back here and tell us how you feel about it and how you would oppose it.
deal?
There are a few who are and do have an issue with Jews.They are fairly transparent even in their measured responses.
I don't look at the "occupation" the same way you do that is all.I am not for human rights violations by anyone.I also don't agree with further expansion into occupied terrortory, and many of the restrictions(like fishing limits) I find counter productive.The current regime is heavy handed.That said.I do not feel the Palestinians have more right to land then the Jews.There is one Jewish country,one!
There are dozens and dozens of Islamic lands.How come no other Muslim countries wants the Palestinians? Just asking.This world is full of land won by war or dominated during an occupation.We live in one.Right or wrong is irrelevant.A chance for peace was passed up many years ago,because one side wants all or nothing.Until that changes, I guess they get nothing.Maybe it's time to put the blame on both sides equally and find a satisfactory solution so blood shed on the other either side is haulted.
The Jews will never leave the land,it won't happen ever! So if a path to piece requires the Palestinians to accept it to move forward I suggest they get a going in that direction.
I usually stay away from this thread.its to emotional for all involved.We never get anywhere with it.
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BS,they are missing out.Israeli Jewish chicks are smoking hot.Maybe a little more skin and an occasional piece of ass would do some of those nice rascist pieces of shit some good.0
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Maybe not your normal AMT poster but there are those in BDS who absolutely think the boycott should include actresses/musicians/professors etc based on their nationality/religion alone. We saw this earlier in the year when Matisyahu was initially removed from the lineup of a music festival in Spain and he isn't even Israeli (he's from Pennylvania). Good on you for recognizing them as haters.gimmesometruth27 said:
^^^BS44325 said:
I am not sure if it is worse here or on twitter where the Israel haters are bow protesting Wonder Woman...rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
THESE people are haters. not your normal amt poster.
i would never not see a movie because of the beliefs of a certain actor/actress. i refuse to see this movie because it sucks.0 -
if people were going to boycott the entire festival because of one person on the bill it is up to them. the performer should not have been removed unless there was a fear for their safety. if there was a fear for their safety it is the protesters in the wrong and the promoters made the right decision to remove them.BS44325 said:
Maybe not your normal AMT poster but there are those in BDS who absolutely think the boycott should include actresses/musicians/professors etc based on their nationality/religion alone. We saw this earlier in the year when Matisyahu was initially removed from the lineup of a music festival in Spain and he isn't even Israeli (he's from Pennylvania). Good on you for recognizing them as haters.gimmesometruth27 said:
^^^BS44325 said:
I am not sure if it is worse here or on twitter where the Israel haters are bow protesting Wonder Woman...rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
THESE people are haters. not your normal amt poster.
i would never not see a movie because of the beliefs of a certain actor/actress. i refuse to see this movie because it sucks.
i support bds but i am not as extreme as the people you are speaking of. bds is the only recourse people have left. the point should be to hit israel non-violently, in the pocketbook and make them come to the negotiating table."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
the palestinians are not going to move in that direction. the younger generation is making that clear. they are rebelling against the palestinian authority right now. they want to overthrow the authority because they have not had elections in 10 years and there is no progress being made. the youth view the palestinian authority as old people content to hold on to power and do nothing with that power that will be of any help to the palestinians of their plight. these kids are growing up in occupied territory and they are seeing their freedoms taken away, their homes taken away, some which have been in palestinian family possession for more than 2 centuries. they feel helpless, and their only response to helplessness is to be a victim, or rise up. they are choosing to rise up. there is a fantastic piece on this on Vice that aired 2 nights ago.rr165892 said:
You know I never said anyone was anti Semitic or Was bashing Jews.Ive always worded my responses to make that clear.I know your positions Rod,and although I don't agree with all of them I know enough to know you don't come from a place of hate.That has never been my angle per say.I would debate this with Nart who I get along with also and I'd feel the same way.He wasn't a racist.Ben,who is a Jew feels strongly as well.gimmesometruth27 said:
so start a i love isreal circle jerk thread then.rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
you are irritated because there are people posting in this thread from countries all over the world that recognize what is going on and they call out the israeli government for their actions.
you should be very mindful of how flippantly you are throwing around the term "hate". none of us hate jewish people. none of us are antisemitic, none of us are advocating any sort of violence. none of us are advocating war against israel. we oppose the actions of the israeli government and its frequent violations of international law. BIG DIFFERENCE.
all we want is for the settlements to stop, the land theft to stop, the human rights abuses to stop, and that the israeli government to adhere to the un resolutions and to capitulate to the pressure of the international community to stop doing what israel is doing.
what acts of the palestinians do you disagree with?
it has been said a thousand times on here, but the actions of the palestinians are in direct response to the illegal israeli occupation.
how about israel come to your state, build walls around it, claim that the land of your state is theirs by divine right, choke off your water supply, choke off your building supplies, prevent trade and items coming into your state, start building jewish only roads, jewish only parts of the state, bulldozing homes owned by people of your state, and expanding ultra right wing settlements with ultra right wing settlers.
let all of this happen and after a few years of that, come back here and tell us how you feel about it and how you would oppose it.
deal?
There are a few who are and do have an issue with Jews.They are fairly transparent even in their measured responses.
I don't look at the "occupation" the same way you do that is all.I am not for human rights violations by anyone.I also don't agree with further expansion into occupied terrortory, and many of the restrictions(like fishing limits) I find counter productive.The current regime is heavy handed.That said.I do not feel the Palestinians have more right to land then the Jews.There is one Jewish country,one!
There are dozens and dozens of Islamic lands.How come no other Muslim countries wants the Palestinians? Just asking.This world is full of land won by war or dominated during an occupation.We live in one.Right or wrong is irrelevant.A chance for peace was passed up many years ago,because one side wants all or nothing.Until that changes, I guess they get nothing.Maybe it's time to put the blame on both sides equally and find a satisfactory solution so blood shed on the other either side is haulted.
The Jews will never leave the land,it won't happen ever! So if a path to piece requires the Palestinians to accept it to move forward I suggest they get a going in that direction.
I usually stay away from this thread.its to emotional for all involved.We never get anywhere with it.
how do you look at the occupation? you have two choices. legal occupation, or illegal occupation. the international community has stated on numerous occasions that it is illegal. any person looking at that fact objectively should know that illegal is against the law, and those breaking the law should be held to account. there is no gray area. it is about as black and white as it gets. illegal occupation is illegal. period. i suppose we could debate the term "occupation", but the dictionary makes it clear that this situation is exactly what an occupation is.
i don't think you quite understand why "one of the other muslim countries" won't simply absorb the palestinians. this is palestinian land. why should they move? why should they be the ones to give up their identity? people advocating that would have been the same ones advocating for western expansion and displacement of the native american peoples and they would have supported the trail of tears.
i for one will never ever put the blame on both sides equally. the crimes are not in equal proportion. the displacement is not of equal proportion. the israeli military response in gaza is never proportional. how dare anybody say the palestinians are equally as guilty?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Fair enough but don't be surprised when that leads to boycotts of Wonder Woman.gimmesometruth27 said:
if people were going to boycott the entire festival because of one person on the bill it is up to them. the performer should not have been removed unless there was a fear for their safety. if there was a fear for their safety it is the protesters in the wrong and the promoters made the right decision to remove them.BS44325 said:
Maybe not your normal AMT poster but there are those in BDS who absolutely think the boycott should include actresses/musicians/professors etc based on their nationality/religion alone. We saw this earlier in the year when Matisyahu was initially removed from the lineup of a music festival in Spain and he isn't even Israeli (he's from Pennylvania). Good on you for recognizing them as haters.gimmesometruth27 said:
^^^BS44325 said:
I am not sure if it is worse here or on twitter where the Israel haters are bow protesting Wonder Woman...rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
THESE people are haters. not your normal amt poster.
i would never not see a movie because of the beliefs of a certain actor/actress. i refuse to see this movie because it sucks.
i support bds but i am not as extreme as the people you are speaking of. bds is the only recourse people have left. the point should be to hit israel non-violently, in the pocketbook and make them come to the negotiating table.0 -
OWNED!gimmesometruth27 said:
so start a i love isreal circle jerk thread then.rr165892 said:
Really Dude.gimmesometruth27 said:
how is being critical of israeli government policies and outing their injustices equating to an "israeli hate thread"?rr165892 said:
That would require unbiased opinions.You won't get that on this Israel hate thread.Facts get twisted here.BS44325 said:JC29856 said:
Just??? Just like as in 20 years ago or just as in just recently?BS44325 said:Hillary just went all-in for Israel at AIPAC
https://youtu.be/n3CPsFpHGqk
I think you need to examine the root causes of that shooting.JC29856 said:
I missed that...around the 2min mark as the vehicle drives in view? Nice!Drowned Out said:That's not a bleed-out, that's straight up execution....IDF apparently got tired of waiting for him to bleed out, so he shot him in the head point blank. Note how shocked everyone appears after he does it....
That goes along way towards the peace process. Occupy harass and when someone resists shoot him have him lay there dying for 5 minutes then blow his brains out because he won't die fast enough.
calling something a hate thread is what happens when they can no longer defend the indefensible.
Make this thread about any other middle eastern country/govt or people and it woulda been shut down ages ago.There has been more over hyped one sided biased hate on this thread than maybe any other.Thats why only the same few(all pro Palestinian Israel haters)posters are the only ones posting here.Its like a I hate Israel circle jerk.
I don't agree with all the actions of the Israeli govt but I sure as hell don't think the acts of the Palestinians over the years are above reproach either.
Its 98% one sided here.
you are irritated because there are people posting in this thread from countries all over the world that recognize what is going on and they call out the israeli government for their actions.
you should be very mindful of how flippantly you are throwing around the term "hate". none of us hate jewish people. none of us are antisemitic, none of us are advocating any sort of violence. none of us are advocating war against israel. we oppose the actions of the israeli government and its frequent violations of international law. BIG DIFFERENCE.
all we want is for the settlements to stop, the land theft to stop, the human rights abuses to stop, and that the israeli government to adhere to the un resolutions and to capitulate to the pressure of the international community to stop doing what israel is doing.
what acts of the palestinians do you disagree with?
it has been said a thousand times on here, but the actions of the palestinians are in direct response to the illegal israeli occupation.
how about israel come to your state, build walls around it, claim that the land of your state is theirs by divine right, choke off your water supply, choke off your building supplies, prevent trade and items coming into your state, start building jewish only roads, jewish only parts of the state, bulldozing homes owned by people of your state, and expanding ultra right wing settlements with ultra right wing settlers.
let all of this happen and after a few years of that, come back here and tell us how you feel about it and how you would oppose it.
deal?0
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