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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,057
    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,995
    edited February 2016
    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
    They don't?
    http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/selected-white-supremacist.html

    And let us not forget about Dylann Storm Roof, the white supremacist who killed 9 people in a church in Charleston. That's kind of a biggie. How quickly people forget.

    So again, why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM but apparently think white supremacists are non-violent?? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,013
    muskydan said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
    so african americans are not disproportionately incarcerated and disproportionately roughed up and killed by white police? my mistake then. carry on.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,013
    bdoyle13 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.

    black on black crime is not the issue.
    .

    LOL, ok thanks for the laugh this morning. Black on black crime is not the issue? Ya why would we deal with the real problem when it's so much easier to blame Police. Very typical.

    I think you know where I stand. No more troll feeding me.
    with black lives matter, the issue is not black on black crime. it is a result of racism against african americans by police forces. there is this thing called the internet that contains information. you can look up the history of the movement and get back to us.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,057
    PJ_Soul said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
    They don't?
    http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/selected-white-supremacist.html

    And let us not forget about Dylann Storm Roof, the white supremacist who killed 9 people in a church in Charleston. That's kind of a biggie. How quickly people forget.

    So again, why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM but apparently think white supremacists are non-violent?? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
    I was curious about that link. You should check it. More than half of those crimes weren't shootings or murders. Some of them were white on white crimes. It's a very misleading link...

    I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone though?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,057
    I thought again about my last post and I shouldn't argue for arguments sake and shouldn't defend any hate groups.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,995
    edited February 2016
    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,057
    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.

    You are definitely confused because you were so blinded by my comment that you didn't read the one right below it where I corrected myself...

    So again I am not going to argue nor defend a hate group...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,995
    edited February 2016
    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.

    You are definitely confused because you were so blinded by my comment that you didn't read the one right below it where I corrected myself...

    So again I am not going to argue nor defend a hate group...
    Yes I did read it. That's what the "Yeah" was for. I meant, "yeah, you're right, you shouldn't defend hate groups". Not sure sure what you think I might be blinded by or how what I said suggested I didn't notice that post. I didn't think your "correction" erased your previous statement, which I found quite striking (not on an individual level - not being personal here. It just really highlighted what I was talking about).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    callen said:

    And none of you did anything to be born white. Just lucky mother fuckers. So get off your high horses.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    muskydan said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
    so african americans are not disproportionately incarcerated and disproportionately roughed up and killed by white police? my mistake then. carry on.
    Yes to the first question and Yes to the second. It's simple math really, when a certain group disproportionately commits more crime, especially violent crime, especially to each other …. things like getting locked up and "roughed up" by them boguz ass Po-lecees happen. But Black lives Matter as we all know
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,013
    muskydan said:

    callen said:

    And none of you did anything to be born white. Just lucky mother fuckers. So get off your high horses.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    muskydan said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
    so african americans are not disproportionately incarcerated and disproportionately roughed up and killed by white police? my mistake then. carry on.
    Yes to the first question and Yes to the second. It's simple math really, when a certain group disproportionately commits more crime, especially violent crime, especially to each other …. things like getting locked up and "roughed up" by them boguz ass Po-lecees happen. But Black lives Matter as we all know
    and you wonder why people hate cops.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,565
    I'm more angered by her outfit choices.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,013
    i have an opinion on the white anger towards beyonce and jaz z. they are rich and powerful african american billionaires. they use their fame, money, and platform to convey their message. the same message that a lot of african americans agree with. less powerful and less monied white america sees them as a threat, so they hate them.

    i have never been a fan of their music or their art, but they don't bother me a human being.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,694
    It's interesting when people who are so against "big government" makes excuses for over the top, big government actions, e.g. police abuse. I guess big government is okay when it's directed at someone else.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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    Go Beavers said:

    It's interesting when people who are so against "big government" makes excuses for over the top, big government actions, e.g. police abuse. I guess big government is okay when it's directed at someone else.

    BOOM goes the dynamite!

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