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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Where do BLM say anywhere that "police are the main killers of blacks". Anything even remotely close will do?

    While were at it could anyone mind pointing to the BLM spokesperson or leader that "says" things?
  • bdoyle13bdoyle13 Near Toronto Posts: 36
    edited February 2016
    If you don't think that BLM marches and protest are anti police and anti state then I will hazard a guess you've never been to one. We can spend the day quoting left and right media pieces how they are or are not a hate group or we can agree to disagree.

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    bdoyle13 said:

    If you don't think that BLM marches and protest are anti police and anti state then I will hazard a guess you've never been to one. We can spend the day quoting left and right media pieces how they are or are not a hate group or we can agree to disagree.

    What I think, what I've been to, what the media writes, hate group or not has nothing to do with what you said "BLM also says Police are the main killers of black men".
  • bdoyle13bdoyle13 Near Toronto Posts: 36
    edited February 2016
    Sigh, fine lets play this game since you think you are making a point...

    Here are some recent BLM marches

    Three very quick examples of BLM protest calling for the KILLING of police officers. Go ahead though and tell me there's no hate.


    http://www.twincities.com/2015/08/30/black-lives-matter-chant-threatening-to-officers-police-say/


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-christie-black-lives-matter-murder-police-officers/


    http://m.therightscoop.com/minnesota-black-lives-matter-proudly-chants-about-killing-cops/

    BLM blames police for the killing of black men as a racist attack against black people. This is utter BS. When was the last time Police were in the streets calling for the killings of ANY race group.

    BLM needs to concentrate on the genocide of black on black crime and stop making it about police.
    Post edited by bdoyle13 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    bdoyle13 said:

    Sigh, fine lets play this game since you think you are making a point...

    Here are some recent BLM marches

    Three very quick examples of BLM protest calling for the KILLING of police officers. Go ahead though and tell me there's no hate.


    http://www.twincities.com/2015/08/30/black-lives-matter-chant-threatening-to-officers-police-say/


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-christie-black-lives-matter-murder-police-officers/


    http://m.therightscoop.com/minnesota-black-lives-matter-proudly-chants-about-killing-cops/

    BLM blames police for the killing of black men as a racist attack against black people. This is utter BS. When was the last time Police were in the streets calling for the killings of ANY race group.

    BLM needs to concentrate on the genocide of black on black crime and stop making it about police.

    I didn't see anywhere in those links that said.. "BLM also says Police are the main killers of black men"
  • bdoyle13bdoyle13 Near Toronto Posts: 36
    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,130
    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

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  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
  • bdoyle13bdoyle13 Near Toronto Posts: 36
    edited February 2016



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.

    black on black crime is not the issue.
    .

    LOL, ok thanks for the laugh this morning. Black on black crime is not the issue? Ya why would we deal with the real problem when it's so much easier to blame Police. Very typical.

    I think you know where I stand. No more troll feeding me.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    approx. 90%(according to an article I read some time ago) of black violent deaths are black on black killings, yes there is a problem that needs to be addressed not just the small percentage out lining the real issues.

    Godfather.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    approx. 90%(according to an article I read some time ago) of black violent deaths are black on black killings, yes there is a problem that needs to be addressed not just the small percentage out lining the real issues.

    Godfather.

    We have to bring that to heel.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited February 2016
    Know this won't sink in but it's poor and uneducated and disenfranchised crime on poor and uneducated and disenfranchised crime. Realize this position would diminish self appointed superiority and that's against human nature. Know also that this position is one of insecurity and sadly from position of privilege which makes it a bit disgusting. But again just human tribal behavior. Evolve already.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    And none of you did anything to be born white. Just lucky mother fuckers. So get off your high horses.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,517
    callen said:

    Know this won't sink in but it's poor and uneducated and disenfranchised crime on poor and uneducated and disenfranchised crime. Realize this position would diminish self appointed superiority and that's against human nature. Know also that this position is one of insecurity and sadly from position of privilege which makes it a bit disgusting. But again just human tribal behavior. Evolve already.

    yup. Doesn't matter which race in that demo...
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    bdoyle13 said:



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.

    black on black crime is not the issue.
    .

    LOL, ok thanks for the laugh this morning. Black on black crime is not the issue? Ya why would we deal with the real problem when it's so much easier to blame Police. Very typical.

    I think you know where I stand. No more troll feeding me.
    So if your neighbor assaults you it's the same as if the government assaults you?
    Of course not, that's idiotic.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    And none of you did anything to be born white. Just lucky mother fuckers. So get off your high horses.

    but in the end it is what it is, make the best of what you got.

    Godfather.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I love the term "copaganda"
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    BOOM goes the dynamite!
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited February 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
    They don't?
    http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/selected-white-supremacist.html

    And let us not forget about Dylann Storm Roof, the white supremacist who killed 9 people in a church in Charleston. That's kind of a biggie. How quickly people forget.

    So again, why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM but apparently think white supremacists are non-violent?? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,130
    muskydan said:

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
    so african americans are not disproportionately incarcerated and disproportionately roughed up and killed by white police? my mistake then. carry on.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,130
    bdoyle13 said:



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.

    black on black crime is not the issue.
    .

    LOL, ok thanks for the laugh this morning. Black on black crime is not the issue? Ya why would we deal with the real problem when it's so much easier to blame Police. Very typical.

    I think you know where I stand. No more troll feeding me.
    with black lives matter, the issue is not black on black crime. it is a result of racism against african americans by police forces. there is this thing called the internet that contains information. you can look up the history of the movement and get back to us.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM and their public protests, but never ever even think to talk about the rather large and disturbing problem of white supremacist groups in America, many of which are militaristic and dangerous?

    Mainly because they don't go around shooting people?
    They don't?
    http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/selected-white-supremacist.html

    And let us not forget about Dylann Storm Roof, the white supremacist who killed 9 people in a church in Charleston. That's kind of a biggie. How quickly people forget.

    So again, why are so many people in such a tizzy about BLM but apparently think white supremacists are non-violent?? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
    I was curious about that link. You should check it. More than half of those crimes weren't shootings or murders. Some of them were white on white crimes. It's a very misleading link...

    I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone though?
  • I thought again about my last post and I shouldn't argue for arguments sake and shouldn't defend any hate groups.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited February 2016
    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.

    You are definitely confused because you were so blinded by my comment that you didn't read the one right below it where I corrected myself...

    So again I am not going to argue nor defend a hate group...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited February 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, and btw, I did read the link I posted. I know they weren't all gun crimes or white on black crimes. But many were. I was just showing that your initial comment about them not going around shooting people was super duper incorrect unless you were being sarcastic (not to prove you wrong, but I think that the idea that these people aren't dangerous or aren't much more dangerous than the BLM movement is very scary, but really want to stop people from continuing to believe that! And back to my initial point... I think your reaction to my question is the same one that many others might have, which tells me there is a HUGE widespread bias going on when it comes to this issue.

    BTW, I'm not aware of any BLM people shooting anyone either. I was and still am confused about your initial reply to my question.

    You are definitely confused because you were so blinded by my comment that you didn't read the one right below it where I corrected myself...

    So again I am not going to argue nor defend a hate group...
    Yes I did read it. That's what the "Yeah" was for. I meant, "yeah, you're right, you shouldn't defend hate groups". Not sure sure what you think I might be blinded by or how what I said suggested I didn't notice that post. I didn't think your "correction" erased your previous statement, which I found quite striking (not on an individual level - not being personal here. It just really highlighted what I was talking about).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    callen said:

    And none of you did anything to be born white. Just lucky mother fuckers. So get off your high horses.

    muskydan said:

    bdoyle13 said:

    Lol I knew you were going there. I've heard it at protests.. Doesn't matter they are a HATE group plain and simple. They blame Police for black deaths. I'm not searching the Internet to appease you. BLM promotes hate. Show me where they don't. You've yet to show how they are helping their communities...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/black-lives-matter-wrong-police-shootings

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/black-lives-matter-police-killings-2015-1.3383282

    http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Yup demilitarize police that will solve black on black crime.

    If you think they don't blame police and use police as their scapegoat for issues then We will never agree. Please show me how they are making a difference and promoting peace and reform within their own communities...



    black on black crime is not the issue.

    black on black crime is a diversionary argument used to undermine the blm movement and prevents people from having an honest talk about race relations in america.

    black lives matter is a direct result of systematic abuses of black americans by white police officers and corrupt police forces.
    Well I guess we can close the file on that one now….Thanks for the laugh, i can always count on the train for that….
    so african americans are not disproportionately incarcerated and disproportionately roughed up and killed by white police? my mistake then. carry on.
    Yes to the first question and Yes to the second. It's simple math really, when a certain group disproportionately commits more crime, especially violent crime, especially to each other …. things like getting locked up and "roughed up" by them boguz ass Po-lecees happen. But Black lives Matter as we all know
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