Black Lives Matter Protesters Block SF Bay Bridge.

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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Speaking as a minority i can say that this is irresponsible and not well thought out. Embarassing even.

    What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.

    Good job losing support
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    New Jersey politicians may be prosecuted for shutting down some lanes on the GW bridge. The protesters who do the same thing without a permit should be prosecuted as well.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013

    Speaking as a minority i can say that this is irresponsible and not well thought out. Embarassing even.

    What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.

    Good job losing support

    Gold star for you today Buddy. Your post sums up everything I have heard from the general public when dealing w/ the knucklehead BLM protests antics
  • rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
    A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
    A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
    I get what you're saying but I know the area well and I really believe it was a bad choice of location. If for no other reason, that bridge backs up traffic badly on any average day so I can easily picture this could have backed up traffic onto other roads and access.

    And I'm good with the idea of being flagrant in calling attention to an issue (though as I said elsewhere I've also become more in favor of taking action than of simple protesting) but in this case I'm guessing the number of people that action pissed off hugely far outnumbered the number of people it enlightened.

    We need to raise awareness about racism, inequality and injustice in America. I'm just not sure this is the way to do that.

    What are some actions that might have been effective and would have lead to better gains for African Americans? This is the question I would ponder first.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • I was for a while, a professional protester. Lock downs, banner hangings, blockades, tree sits, etc. Getting the attention of the media is one thing but sabotaging the evening commute is never going to win you many fans!
    when he's happy he looks insane

    Gorge 2005
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    scorpio2k said:

    I was for a while, a professional protester. Lock downs, banner hangings, blockades, tree sits, etc. Getting the attention of the media is one thing but sabotaging the evening commute is never going to win you many fans!

    Nicely done, scorpio2k. A useful protest or action needs to be well thought out and done in such a way that no harm, injury or fatalities occur. Blocking a major route is unsafe.

    Hopefully BLM is learning from what many consider to be a mistake.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    ldent42 said:

    callen said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.

    The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.
    You're not for real asking me why I think it's bad to block traffic on the SF bridge are you?

    I don't know anything about the streets in SF. But pick an avenue and block traffic there. Bridges are dangerous. Protest outside of political buildings, outside of the news station buildings, Fill up whatever the SF equivalent of the Great Lawn is with protesters. Hell march from the news stations buildings to city hall. But don't cut off access from one land mass to another however many hundred feet above a body of water. Just no.
    Not asking you if it's bad to block bridge. Of course it is. As to danger, sure as hell more dangerous to be young black male pulled over by red neck police officer.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    brianlux said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
    A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
    I get what you're saying but I know the area well and I really believe it was a bad choice of location. If for no other reason, that bridge backs up traffic badly on any average day so I can easily picture this could have backed up traffic onto other roads and access.

    And I'm good with the idea of being flagrant in calling attention to an issue (though as I said elsewhere I've also become more in favor of taking action than of simple protesting) but in this case I'm guessing the number of people that action pissed off hugely far outnumbered the number of people it enlightened.

    We need to raise awareness about racism, inequality and injustice in America. I'm just not sure this is the way to do that.

    What are some actions that might have been effective and would have lead to better gains for African Americans? This is the question I would ponder first.
    Getting people to talk about fascism is the key. It's a real problem. And if it means blocking traffic so be it.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    callen said:

    brianlux said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    ldent42 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

    First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
    Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

    My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

    And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
    Like this
    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
    I never said it was.

    To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
    Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
    People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
    No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
    I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year.
    OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.

    At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
    The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
    A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
    I get what you're saying but I know the area well and I really believe it was a bad choice of location. If for no other reason, that bridge backs up traffic badly on any average day so I can easily picture this could have backed up traffic onto other roads and access.

    And I'm good with the idea of being flagrant in calling attention to an issue (though as I said elsewhere I've also become more in favor of taking action than of simple protesting) but in this case I'm guessing the number of people that action pissed off hugely far outnumbered the number of people it enlightened.

    We need to raise awareness about racism, inequality and injustice in America. I'm just not sure this is the way to do that.

    What are some actions that might have been effective and would have lead to better gains for African Americans? This is the question I would ponder first.
    Getting people to talk about fascism is the key. It's a real problem. And if it means blocking traffic so be it.
    I would take a different approach but I respect your avid concern for the issue, Callen.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    Speaking as a minority i can say that this is irresponsible and not well thought out. Embarassing even.

    What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.

    Good job losing support

    No your speaking on the part of the majority.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG