Black Lives Matter Protesters Block SF Bay Bridge.

rr165892

callen said:

rr165892 said:

Cal define white guilt.What am I feeling guilty for.Working hard,being responsible.caring for other property and well being.I don't feel guilty about any success I have achieved,do you?

Guilt part in response to post implying I had guilt which motivates my views. I don't. None and get tired of hearing this phrase.

As to your success in creating and running a business, you should be proud as hell and revel in your fortitude in doing so. Most humans can't do this regardless of race creed etc. Some minorities have also succeeded in doing this. So I try to take everyone as an individual rather than grouping people together due to physical characteristic. Why I have issues with statements like blacks do more crime. I view it as poor people and less educated do more crime.

I do though recognize all aren't treated the same in our society.

Ok,solid answer pal.
I'm a Capitolist in a way as I want everyone of any color,race,religion,no religion to be successful and make their worlds better.To live happy.Its those who interfere with that ascending aspiration is who I take issue with.I also don't like when a race issue is manufactured.Thats what has happened of late.

rr165892

TL170678 said:

If you took away black on black shootings in America, we would be 1 of the safest countries. The democratic party encourages it because it helps push their agendas. Chicago and New Orleans have more shootings than some of the scariest 3rd world countries. It`s all gang violence. Yet those black lives do not matter to the protesters, only the handful of criminals that the police put down.
Someone said black people can not be racist. I completely disagree. Most middle class black folks I have conversations with are completely against BLM because it makes them look bad. I used to be very liberal, I still am on some social issues, but I will never vote for them again and I never ever voted for a Republican. I just do not understand why the left want to potentially set this awesome country up for terrorist attacks by bringing in refugees...Look at how fast Sweden is being destroyed, bankrupt, and how much violence has increased by bringing in hundreds of thousands of 20-30 year old males. It`s foreshadowing America in 5-10 years. They are on the brink of a civil war, Germany too, and you can say the same about Belgium and Spain.

TL170678 said:

If you took away black on black shootings in America, we would be 1 of the safest countries. The democratic party encourages it because it helps push their agendas. Chicago and New Orleans have more shootings than some of the scariest 3rd world countries. It`s all gang violence. Yet those black lives do not matter to the protesters, only the handful of criminals that the police put down.
Someone said black people can not be racist. I completely disagree. Most middle class black folks I have conversations with are completely against BLM because it makes them look bad. I used to be very liberal, I still am on some social issues, but I will never vote for them again and I never ever voted for a Republican. I just do not understand why the left want to potentially set this awesome country up for terrorist attacks by bringing in refugees...Look at how fast Sweden is being destroyed, bankrupt, and how much violence has increased by bringing in hundreds of thousands of 20-30 year old males. It`s foreshadowing America in 5-10 years. They are on the brink of a civil war, Germany too, and you can say the same about Belgium and Spain.

Good post.

brianlux

ldent42 said:

The way I learned it, white people benefit from white privilege. All white people have some degree of white privilege. That doesn't mean that all white people are racist. You can't avoid or disengage from your white privilege, it's not possible. You can however, acknowledge it and disagree with the systemic practice. What makes a white person a racist is to encourage, believe in, support, justify and perpetuate the systemic practice of racism.

I think the problem with this use of language, is you get people saying "oh you're going to call me a racist if I say people commit the most crimes" who think there a P.C. Conspiracy against them. That's not the case. The statement "black people commit the most crimes" doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it makes you seem prejudiced and ill informed. What makes you a racist is the belief that since black people commit the most crimes, black people deserve to be policed harder than white people.

If anyone's interested I'll see if I have any pdfs saved from this coursework and post links.

Makes sense to me- thanks Ident!

josevolution

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

ldent42

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

I think the professionals are the problem, not the solution

rr165892

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

rr165892

Here's another informative statistical write up
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313

ldent42

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

rr165892

ldent42 said:

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

Can't because it could interfere with first responders.

ldent42

Well then someone needs to tell the seemingly monthly parades on 5th avenue that they're interfering with first responders.

josevolution

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I agree specially with the sports point ...

PJ_Soul

rr165892 said:

ldent42 said:

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

Can't because it could interfere with first responders.

People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.

rr165892

PJ_Soul said:

rr165892 said:

ldent42 said:

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

Can't because it could interfere with first responders.

People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.

No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.

callen

rr165892 said:

Here's another informative statistical write up
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313

RR, really?!?!?

Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh

callen

ldent42 said:

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.

The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.

rr165892

callen said:

rr165892 said:

Here's another informative statistical write up
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313

RR, really?!?!?

Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh

Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.

brianlux

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

I've been thinking a lot about protest vs action lately. Civil rights activists in the 60's took action, not just protested. Greenpeace protests, Sea Shepherd takes actions. I'm thinking actions are more effective.

callen

rr165892 said:

callen said:

rr165892 said:

Here's another informative statistical write up
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313

RR, really?!?!?

Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh

Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.

Really RR the white guilt shit again. This article props up whites that think they are somewhat special. Not the case. Causation. Your just lucky you were born white. Then with all the benefits of being white aren't good enough so you have to pile it on. With stats that omit reasons why certain races have more crime.

Oh and WWJD? Sure as fk would be walking with me versus whites bitching about poor minorities THAT WERE RECENTLY SLAVES AND RECENTLY GIVEN RIGHT TO VOTE. FK.

ldent42

callen said:

ldent42 said:

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....

First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses.
Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.

My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.

And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

I never said it was.

To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.

Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.

The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.

You're not for real asking me why I think it's bad to block traffic on the SF bridge are you?

I don't know anything about the streets in SF. But pick an avenue and block traffic there. Bridges are dangerous. Protest outside of political buildings, outside of the news station buildings, Fill up whatever the SF equivalent of the Great Lawn is with protesters. Hell march from the news stations buildings to city hall. But don't cut off access from one land mass to another however many hundred feet above a body of water. Just no.

muskydan

rr165892 said:

callen said:

rr165892 said:

Here's another informative statistical write up
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313

RR, really?!?!?

Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh

Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.

Easy rr, you know you can't present facts on here. Some people must not watch or read much news to discover the common theme of who commits the most violent crime. That rape stat not only blew me away but pissed me off.