Cal define white guilt.What am I feeling guilty for.Working hard,being responsible.caring for other property and well being.I don't feel guilty about any success I have achieved,do you?
Guilt part in response to post implying I had guilt which motivates my views. I don't. None and get tired of hearing this phrase.
As to your success in creating and running a business, you should be proud as hell and revel in your fortitude in doing so. Most humans can't do this regardless of race creed etc. Some minorities have also succeeded in doing this. So I try to take everyone as an individual rather than grouping people together due to physical characteristic. Why I have issues with statements like blacks do more crime. I view it as poor people and less educated do more crime.
I do though recognize all aren't treated the same in our society.
Ok,solid answer pal. I'm a Capitolist in a way as I want everyone of any color,race,religion,no religion to be successful and make their worlds better.To live happy.Its those who interfere with that ascending aspiration is who I take issue with.I also don't like when a race issue is manufactured.Thats what has happened of late.
If you took away black on black shootings in America, we would be 1 of the safest countries. The democratic party encourages it because it helps push their agendas. Chicago and New Orleans have more shootings than some of the scariest 3rd world countries. It`s all gang violence. Yet those black lives do not matter to the protesters, only the handful of criminals that the police put down. Someone said black people can not be racist. I completely disagree. Most middle class black folks I have conversations with are completely against BLM because it makes them look bad. I used to be very liberal, I still am on some social issues, but I will never vote for them again and I never ever voted for a Republican. I just do not understand why the left want to potentially set this awesome country up for terrorist attacks by bringing in refugees...Look at how fast Sweden is being destroyed, bankrupt, and how much violence has increased by bringing in hundreds of thousands of 20-30 year old males. It`s foreshadowing America in 5-10 years. They are on the brink of a civil war, Germany too, and you can say the same about Belgium and Spain.
If you took away black on black shootings in America, we would be 1 of the safest countries. The democratic party encourages it because it helps push their agendas. Chicago and New Orleans have more shootings than some of the scariest 3rd world countries. It`s all gang violence. Yet those black lives do not matter to the protesters, only the handful of criminals that the police put down. Someone said black people can not be racist. I completely disagree. Most middle class black folks I have conversations with are completely against BLM because it makes them look bad. I used to be very liberal, I still am on some social issues, but I will never vote for them again and I never ever voted for a Republican. I just do not understand why the left want to potentially set this awesome country up for terrorist attacks by bringing in refugees...Look at how fast Sweden is being destroyed, bankrupt, and how much violence has increased by bringing in hundreds of thousands of 20-30 year old males. It`s foreshadowing America in 5-10 years. They are on the brink of a civil war, Germany too, and you can say the same about Belgium and Spain.
The way I learned it, white people benefit from white privilege. All white people have some degree of white privilege. That doesn't mean that all white people are racist. You can't avoid or disengage from your white privilege, it's not possible. You can however, acknowledge it and disagree with the systemic practice. What makes a white person a racist is to encourage, believe in, support, justify and perpetuate the systemic practice of racism.
I think the problem with this use of language, is you get people saying "oh you're going to call me a racist if I say people commit the most crimes" who think there a P.C. Conspiracy against them. That's not the case. The statement "black people commit the most crimes" doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it makes you seem prejudiced and ill informed. What makes you a racist is the belief that since black people commit the most crimes, black people deserve to be policed harder than white people.
If anyone's interested I'll see if I have any pdfs saved from this coursework and post links.
Makes sense to me- thanks Ident!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.
Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh
Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
I've been thinking a lot about protest vs action lately. Civil rights activists in the 60's took action, not just protested. Greenpeace protests, Sea Shepherd takes actions. I'm thinking actions are more effective.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh
Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.
Really RR the white guilt shit again. This article props up whites that think they are somewhat special. Not the case. Causation. Your just lucky you were born white. Then with all the benefits of being white aren't good enough so you have to pile it on. With stats that omit reasons why certain races have more crime.
Oh and WWJD? Sure as fk would be walking with me versus whites bitching about poor minorities THAT WERE RECENTLY SLAVES AND RECENTLY GIVEN RIGHT TO VOTE. FK.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.
The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.
You're not for real asking me why I think it's bad to block traffic on the SF bridge are you?
I don't know anything about the streets in SF. But pick an avenue and block traffic there. Bridges are dangerous. Protest outside of political buildings, outside of the news station buildings, Fill up whatever the SF equivalent of the Great Lawn is with protesters. Hell march from the news stations buildings to city hall. But don't cut off access from one land mass to another however many hundred feet above a body of water. Just no.
Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh
Straight data dude.Im just copy and pasting.I know it dosent fit with the white guilt narrative but you have the same demographics I do where you live.I bet similar statistics.
Easy rr, you know you can't present facts on here. Some people must not watch or read much news to discover the common theme of who commits the most violent crime. That rape stat not only blew me away but pissed me off.
Speaking as a minority i can say that this is irresponsible and not well thought out. Embarassing even.
What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.
New Jersey politicians may be prosecuted for shutting down some lanes on the GW bridge. The protesters who do the same thing without a permit should be prosecuted as well.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year. OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.
At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
Speaking as a minority i can say that this is irresponsible and not well thought out. Embarassing even.
What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.
Good job losing support
Gold star for you today Buddy. Your post sums up everything I have heard from the general public when dealing w/ the knucklehead BLM protests antics
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year. OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.
At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year. OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.
At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Can't because it could interfere with first responders.
People only seem to care about this when it's people protesting. I never see complaints about it when the crowds aren't protesters, but, rather, people have fun.
No,anytime this is an issue.not just when a group I don't agree with is protesting.I thought the occupy clowns were a huge waste of resources and services.
I don't think that is an honest assessment. We are all going to be blocking traffic to see our favorite band in a few months and nobody is going to decry the risk with first responders. Every major college and professional sports organization causes twice the disruption dozens of times a year. OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.
At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
The difference with that is cars move over for the flashing lights. Nobody would have been able to move in this case.
A bridge is different, that's true, but (admittedly ignorant of the specific geography of the Bay area) I doubt first responders would need to cross the bridge at all.
I get what you're saying but I know the area well and I really believe it was a bad choice of location. If for no other reason, that bridge backs up traffic badly on any average day so I can easily picture this could have backed up traffic onto other roads and access.
And I'm good with the idea of being flagrant in calling attention to an issue (though as I said elsewhere I've also become more in favor of taking action than of simple protesting) but in this case I'm guessing the number of people that action pissed off hugely far outnumbered the number of people it enlightened.
We need to raise awareness about racism, inequality and injustice in America. I'm just not sure this is the way to do that.
What are some actions that might have been effective and would have lead to better gains for African Americans? This is the question I would ponder first.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I was for a while, a professional protester. Lock downs, banner hangings, blockades, tree sits, etc. Getting the attention of the media is one thing but sabotaging the evening commute is never going to win you many fans!
I was for a while, a professional protester. Lock downs, banner hangings, blockades, tree sits, etc. Getting the attention of the media is one thing but sabotaging the evening commute is never going to win you many fans!
Nicely done, scorpio2k. A useful protest or action needs to be well thought out and done in such a way that no harm, injury or fatalities occur. Blocking a major route is unsafe.
Hopefully BLM is learning from what many consider to be a mistake.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Ok to the professional protesters here who have all the answers , where would you protest to get your point across....
First of all.Not in traffic or blocking businesses. Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
Why??? Should just go to middle of desert to protest so people aren't inconvenienced. Come on.
The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.
You're not for real asking me why I think it's bad to block traffic on the SF bridge are you?
I don't know anything about the streets in SF. But pick an avenue and block traffic there. Bridges are dangerous. Protest outside of political buildings, outside of the news station buildings, Fill up whatever the SF equivalent of the Great Lawn is with protesters. Hell march from the news stations buildings to city hall. But don't cut off access from one land mass to another however many hundred feet above a body of water. Just no.
Not asking you if it's bad to block bridge. Of course it is. As to danger, sure as hell more dangerous to be young black male pulled over by red neck police officer.
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I'm a Capitolist in a way as I want everyone of any color,race,religion,no religion to be successful and make their worlds better.To live happy.Its those who interfere with that ascending aspiration is who I take issue with.I also don't like when a race issue is manufactured.Thats what has happened of late.
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Parks,city hall,courthouse are all fine.If they want to waste there time.In today's social media driven climate they could have more traction from that angle.
My thought on if you Want to make the country listen.Have every black pro football player refuse to take the field in solidarity on any football Sunday during the season.Every one of them.That will get press ,attention and show resolve.Now you have people's attention.
And ident it's not rascist or predujiced to state facts.
Like this
http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/
https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313
To answer Jose, I actually agree with rr here about protest locations and utilizing social media. Though I would argue that blocking traffic okay, just not on a damn bridge.
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Poverty! Education system!! Voting right!!! Blatant discrimination!!! Racists!!! Those are the stats you should be looking at. Arghhhhhhh
The haves have not a clue. I know cliche'.
Oh and WWJD? Sure as fk would be walking with me versus whites bitching about poor minorities THAT WERE RECENTLY SLAVES AND RECENTLY GIVEN RIGHT TO VOTE. FK.
I don't know anything about the streets in SF. But pick an avenue and block traffic there. Bridges are dangerous. Protest outside of political buildings, outside of the news station buildings, Fill up whatever the SF equivalent of the Great Lawn is with protesters. Hell march from the news stations buildings to city hall. But don't cut off access from one land mass to another however many hundred feet above a body of water. Just no.
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What if an ambulance or a firetruck couldn't get through? What if you missed your nerve wracking doctor's appointment that you had to book two months out? Couldn't pick up your young child? All because people stopped in front of you with a silly attempt at making a statement. Go park in front of a politicians house or the police dept. Dont mess with innocent people of ALL colors and ways of life.
Good job losing support
OSU games fuck up the city of Columbus like you can't believe, right next to the biggest hospital in town, but nobody cares because sports get a pass.
At least these numbskulls are trying to accomplish something more than mind numbing entertainment.
And I'm good with the idea of being flagrant in calling attention to an issue (though as I said elsewhere I've also become more in favor of taking action than of simple protesting) but in this case I'm guessing the number of people that action pissed off hugely far outnumbered the number of people it enlightened.
We need to raise awareness about racism, inequality and injustice in America. I'm just not sure this is the way to do that.
What are some actions that might have been effective and would have lead to better gains for African Americans? This is the question I would ponder first.
Gorge 2005
Hopefully BLM is learning from what many consider to be a mistake.