Black Lives Matter Protesters Block SF Bay Bridge.

brianlux
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/19/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-san-franciscos-bay-bridge

"Protesters with the Black Lives Matter movement blocked traffic on the westbound span of the Bay Bridge that connects Oakland and San Francisco as part of a long weekend of protests aimed at reclaiming Martin Luther King Jr’s legacy of radicalism.

Shortly after 3.30pm, a caravan of cars slowed to a stop on the five-lane bridge. Passengers in the first line of cars passed chains through their windows and locked themselves to both sides of the bridge, bringing all westbound traffic to a stop.

“Today is the day when we reclaim MLK’s radical legacy,” said April Thomas, who was chained between two cars. “I’m out here for Tamir Rice, Rekia Boyd, for my mother, myself, for Harriet Tubman.”"

This bugs me on a personal level because I have a phobia about being on or crossing bridges. I've crossed the Bay Bridge more times than I can count and it always unnerves me to do so, especially after a section of it fell during the Loma Prieta earth quake. If I had been stuck on that bridge during this protest I probably would have just abandoned my car and walked either back to Oakland or on to Treasure Island.

"reclaiming Martin Luther King Jr’s legacy of radicalism"? Really? Is this how MLK would have done it, or at least where he would have staged such a protest? The bay area is ultra integrated and very low on the race hate scale. Why there? I just don't see how this is going to help race relations in America. If anything, it will only serve to exacerbate racial tensions.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"
-Roberto Benigni

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I couldn't agree more with you on this Bri,of all places the Bay Area???????

    I rolled my eyes.I believe the BLM is out of touch with society and are forcing an issue that has gotten worse the more they open their misguided mouths.This along with the Oscar boycott and it just makes me wonder what the end game is here.
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    edited January 2016

    People who may have some sympathy for the cause before that were stuck on the bridge will now see the light and understand how misguided and ignant the BLM movement Really is....I can't say racist since we all know they can't be considered racist..
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rr165892 said:

    I couldn't agree more with you on this Bri,of all places the Bay Area???????

    I rolled my eyes.I believe the BLM is out of touch with society and are forcing an issue that has gotten worse the more they open their misguided mouths.This along with the Oscar boycott and it just makes me wonder what the end game is here.

    Spike Lee is pissed that his movies suck as bad as his Knicks the past 10 years. He is so irrelevant now that he needs to pull shit like this to get back in spotlight.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    The real shame is that racism is still rampant in much of America, and problems such as a disproportionate number of black American males being incarcerated due to racial profiling are still widespread. These problems definitely need to be addressed but I don't see BLM making the kind of moves that will help. And I say this as someone not at all afraid to support so-called radical actions if those actions help move things forward. I do think BLM could make a positive difference and I'm not going to disparage that movement entirely like some are apt to, but I don't see how this particular action is helpful. If I'm wrong, I want to know why.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    What is considered radical action, though? These folks blocked a major thru-way, bridge or not.

    Is busting up local businesses, burning them OK?

    Honest question - to what lengths are these actions acceptable?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    hedonist said:

    What is considered radical action, though? These folks blocked a major thru-way, bridge or not.

    Is busting up local businesses, burning them OK?

    Honest question - to what lengths are these actions acceptable?

    Dr. King's Freedom March was probably considered radical but the point of that was not to just be disruptive. Any action should have a point and lead to a result. If BLM had held a rally on the steps of city hall and made a lot of noise, that would attract attention and maybe garner some support. Blocking roads and burning building will just piss people off and I don't see how that will help.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    He who fights monsters...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663

    He who fights monsters...

    Nietzsche. Very good!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited January 2016
    crossed that bridge driving the 18 wheeler fulla seafood. im not a fan of that huge fucking tall bastard of a bridge. nice sharp turn when under construction & trying to get back on the bridge out of SF.

    blocking the bridge & causing traffic to stop & back up on the bridge is ridiculous.

    i would be scared senseless sitting there on the bridge
    I've been known for undoing my seatbelt & rolling down my window when crossing many a bridges.

    obviously not a fan of heights

    in my next life im a ironworker with a 2footer

    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited January 2016
    The movement definitely doesn't seem very selective. They crash Bernie Sanders rallies and protest in San Fran. There are much better things to crash and much better places to protest. It's kind of like these folks suffer from a lack of transportation, so they just do their thing wherever happens to be convenient. :confused: They should be a lot more strategic in their movement. I support their basic reasoning behind it, but they just aren't employing very good tactics. Too bad they don't have someone like MLK to help them out in terms of how to effectively protest and get their point across in a constructive way. As it is now they are shooting themselves in the foot more often than not, which is unfortunate.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:

    The movement definitely doesn't seem very selective. They crash Bernie Sanders rallies and protest in San Fran. There are much better things to crash and much better places to protest. It's kind of like these folks suffer from a lack of transportation, so they just do their thing wherever happens to be convenient. :confused: They should be a lot more strategic in their movement. I support their basic reasoning behind it, but they just aren't employing very good tactics. Too bad they don't have someone like MLK to help them out in terms of how to effectively protest and get their point across in a constructive way. As it is now they are shooting themselves in the foot more often than not, which is unfortunate.

    Exactly!

    I wish some prominent black folks would come forward and stand up to this group. Nobody of importance should give a crap about what some honky like me says about the subject. I'm not even comfortable with having started this thread. But it is an important issue. I hope some sensible forward thing African Americans will speak out on this issue.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    brianlux said:

    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    Come on now Brian,that's a real stretch.The White Rascists are behind BLM.Im sure some on the do no wrong ultra left believe that nonsense.Thats funny shit right there.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    Come on now Brian,that's a real stretch.The White Rascists are behind BLM.Im sure some on the do no wrong ultra left believe that nonsense.Thats funny shit right there.
    It's just a metaphor of sorts. The results of many BLM actions are negative. That's what I'm trying to point out. But you can bet there are plenty of white racists who are eating this shit up big time.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux said:

    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    Come on now Brian,that's a real stretch.The White Rascists are behind BLM.Im sure some on the do no wrong ultra left believe that nonsense.Thats funny shit right there.
    It's just a metaphor of sorts. The results of many BLM actions are negative. That's what I'm trying to point out. But you can bet there are plenty of white racists who are eating this shit up big time.

    Let me ask you this, if you didn't know me from anything would you consider me a racist if I thought anyone who actively participates in BLM events are ignorant beings??
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    Come on now Brian,that's a real stretch.The White Rascists are behind BLM.Im sure some on the do no wrong ultra left believe that nonsense.Thats funny shit right there.
    It's just a metaphor of sorts. The results of many BLM actions are negative. That's what I'm trying to point out. But you can bet there are plenty of white racists who are eating this shit up big time.

    Let me ask you this, if you didn't know me from anything would you consider me a racist if I thought anyone who actively participates in BLM events are ignorant beings??
    I would not jump to that conclusion but I would question why you believe everyone involved in BLM is an "ignorant being". I'm guessing there are many young intelligent members of BLM who are frustrated with seeing racism still running strong in America and seeing a disproportionate number of their fellow African Americans in jail and just don't know what else to do about it. And so based on that thought, I would question why you would assume every member of BLM is an ignorant being.

    How does your question relate to what I said?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2016
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    And here's another thing. You know what bothers me about the concept of "Black Lives Matter"? The same thing that bothers me about the concept of "All Lives Matter" and "All Hispanics Matter" and "All Asians Matter". What bugs me about that is that I don't know anyone who says things things with other lives besides human beings in mind. If "All Lives Matter" were meant to include elephants and whales and finches and echinoderms and nudibranchs I would be so on board with that!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    jeffbr said:

    We had a peaceful, well attended MLK march in Seattle on Monday. I commented to my wife that this was a great march, done respectfully, people listened to their message honoring Dr. King. I thought it was a nice contrast to the idiot #blacklivesmatter demonstrations we've had here, including one where they completely took over the podium at a Bernie Sanders rally, causing Bernie to stand there shrugging his shoulders and it seemed to alienate everyone (including Sanders supporters sympathetic to the #blacklivesmatter cause). Then I saw this march across the bridge there, and it solidified for me that the #blacklivesmatter people are less interested in being accepted, and more interested in causing grief for everyone. To each their own, and perhaps there is an audience for their message, but I don't know many people who respond positively to that type of message.

    It's great to hear about your peaceful MLK rally in Seattle, Jeff. That's the kind of thing that will help move us forward.

    I almost get the impression that BLM is really a subversive group of white racists made up to look blacks who are trying to give African Americans a bad name. I know that's not the case, of course, but the results are similar.
    Come on now Brian,that's a real stretch.The White Rascists are behind BLM.Im sure some on the do no wrong ultra left believe that nonsense.Thats funny shit right there.
    It's just a metaphor of sorts. The results of many BLM actions are negative. That's what I'm trying to point out. But you can bet there are plenty of white racists who are eating this shit up big time.

    Let me ask you this, if you didn't know me from anything would you consider me a racist if I thought anyone who actively participates in BLM events are ignorant beings??
    I would not jump to that conclusion but I would question why you believe everyone involved in BLM is an "ignorant being". I'm guessing there are many young intelligent members of BLM who are frustrated with seeing racism still running strong in America and seeing a disproportionate number of their fellow African Americans in jail and just don't know what else to do about it. And so based on that thought, I would question why you would assume every member of BLM is an ignorant being.

    How does your question relate to what I said?
    Thank you for answering my question...from my experience I have not met one I would consider a intelligent. I am around them atleast a few times a week. I will still keep a open mind to perhaps discover one that does not have their ass completely up their arse:). If only they would concentrate more efforts on educating the urban terrorists that are killing each other at shocking levels... Levels like the mid 90's. This summer is going to be a complete bloodbath...