Indifference as a "closer"

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  • TL170678
    TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    Man I did not think anyone could not like Ben Harper? Burn 1 down FFS.
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,457
    I have to agree with Pjfanwillneverleave here. Ben Harper is good on his own, but this beauty of a song should be all PJ, at least to me. I actually even prefer the studio version over any live version, but it is always a sweet treat to hear it.
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  • mschostok
    mschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    buck502000 said:

    I love this song and it is great live - but I do not think it should be used as a closer - especially with the lights on. It worked well when they play it as the last song on night one of a two night stand - see Amsterdam 2014 - but not so sure about Detroit 2014. Thoughts?

    Agree, I've always liked more upbeat/happy songs (Ledbetter, Baba, RITFW) to close.
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  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    Lights off.
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  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    Definitely would work better with the lights off. Love hearing it though.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,017
    buck502000 said:

    It worked well when they play it as the last song on night one of a two night stand

    Agreed. Leave ya wanting more.
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    As many of you have already stated, it needs to be played with the lights down (maybe just a single spotlight on EV). If the lights must be on to end the show, then Indifference should be moved to the second to last spot. Partings Ways and All Those Yesterdays would work well in this position too. So would Immortality. Afterwards, the band could play a song that leaves everyone singing/dancing/chanting...Alive, Porch, YLB, Baba, and (if it must be played), RITFW do this sort of job. I've also always felt that RVM and Better Man are big enough to end a show...but now I'm getting off topic.
  • Sarah
    Sarah Toronto Posts: 736
    edited December 2015
    Saw it as a closer to end my first Pearl Jam concert in October of 2000. It is an extremely important, personal song for me, and I wept uncontrollably at the show's conclusion. Maybe my favourite Pearl Jam moment of all-time was seeing them perform that song at that instance. So, I'm biased towards it.
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  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,229
    prefer YL as a closer. Indifference feels like a subdued ending to a show IMO
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this song, I just think it loses so much of its allure when played with the lights on at the end of a show.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,020
    I actually think it works really well. I can't really see it as an opener but I guess if pendulum can indifference can too.
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  • PJ-Cubs
    PJ-Cubs Posts: 3,377
    Great closer. Such a powerful song. Definitely leaves you wanting more.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,283
    Great closer imo. I ve seen it close a few times and it s great. I Wish they d close a show with release.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    mcgruff10 said:

    I Wish they d close a show with release.

    Surely you jest :smile:
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,254
    Likeo mucho
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,283
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I Wish they d close a show with release.

    Surely you jest :smile:
    Huh?
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I Wish they d close a show with release.

    Surely you jest :smile:
    Huh?
    Release as a closer?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,283
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I Wish they d close a show with release.

    Surely you jest :smile:
    Huh?
    Release as a closer?
    It would be the perfect closer. Release did close their first and arguably best album.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I Wish they d close a show with release.

    Surely you jest :smile:
    Huh?
    Release as a closer?
    It would be the perfect closer. Release did close their first and arguably best album.
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    Release closed their first album. Not meant for closing concerts today though.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I like it, but would also prefer linights down.
    I do think it would make a very intimate, emotional opener. That would be the place in the set list that it would be most powerful for me. Indifference would be an awesome opener or closer as well.
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