2016 PJ25 Tour Rumors

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130

    Regarding the GA line, in 2014, 10C sent out an email that went something like this:

    Line up whenever the heck you want to. Three hours before, fine. Three days before, fine. It was permissible to get out of line for a few minutes for food, bathroom, pick up tickets, etc. A system involving a list with numbers (such as to get out of line for hours and hours) was not permissible. Talk to people nearby you so they can hold your spot and you can hold their spot. Once the doors open, you walk in a calm and peaceful manner to the front. No running. Anyone running will be pulled out of line.

    No holding area, so whatever you had in line such as cards, chairs, guitar, books, had to be returned to the car before the doors opened.

    I agree that one person should not be allowed to hold a spot for 15 buddies, but certainly one person can be allowed to hold a spot for their ticket buddy only.


    What I'd like to see is this:
    Have a GA ticket and want super-close? Get in a line about an hour before doors open. You get a number. A random number is drawn. The person with the lucky number lines up first. The person with the next-higher number lines up as the #2 spot... and so on and so forth.

    If there's 200 people, that's 100 numbers... 100 10C members and 100 buddies... Number 52 is drawn. Whoever is #52 goes in first followed by 53-100 and then 1-51.

    Once these people are all situated, doors open.

    Anyone else in GA, but not wanting to be up close can enter at the regular time when doors open.

    love it!
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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100

    my2hands said:

    OMG 120 pages of painful bollocks, piss myself if they announce they are taking a break to record a new album......like it was mentioned. I want them to tour, but 120 pages and it just a bunch of made up dates........seriously......

    yep a bunch of made up dates- check back Friday to see how fake they all are
    I'm going to guess at least 75% of the original cities will end up being accurate, with some dates shuffled around...
    agreed

    And if I'm wrong I hope no one quoted this so I can edit it and delete any history lol
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  • IamTom
    IamTom Posts: 1,138
    mcgruff10 said:

    Regarding the GA line, in 2014, 10C sent out an email that went something like this:

    Line up whenever the heck you want to. Three hours before, fine. Three days before, fine. It was permissible to get out of line for a few minutes for food, bathroom, pick up tickets, etc. A system involving a list with numbers (such as to get out of line for hours and hours) was not permissible. Talk to people nearby you so they can hold your spot and you can hold their spot. Once the doors open, you walk in a calm and peaceful manner to the front. No running. Anyone running will be pulled out of line.

    No holding area, so whatever you had in line such as cards, chairs, guitar, books, had to be returned to the car before the doors opened.

    I agree that one person should not be allowed to hold a spot for 15 buddies, but certainly one person can be allowed to hold a spot for their ticket buddy only.


    What I'd like to see is this:
    Have a GA ticket and want super-close? Get in a line about an hour before doors open. You get a number. A random number is drawn. The person with the lucky number lines up first. The person with the next-higher number lines up as the #2 spot... and so on and so forth.

    If there's 200 people, that's 100 numbers... 100 10C members and 100 buddies... Number 52 is drawn. Whoever is #52 goes in first followed by 53-100 and then 1-51.

    Once these people are all situated, doors open.

    Anyone else in GA, but not wanting to be up close can enter at the regular time when doors open.

    love it!
    200 people an hour before? Ziggo1 last year there was a couple of thousand at least an hour before. Ziggo2 750+. Leeds, in torrential rain, 1000. Berlin 1000s. And if you said, hey do you want to be super close I can't imagine many would've said no.



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  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668

    Regarding the GA line, in 2014, 10C sent out an email that went something like this:

    Line up whenever the heck you want to. Three hours before, fine. Three days before, fine. It was permissible to get out of line for a few minutes for food, bathroom, pick up tickets, etc. A system involving a list with numbers (such as to get out of line for hours and hours) was not permissible. Talk to people nearby you so they can hold your spot and you can hold their spot. Once the doors open, you walk in a calm and peaceful manner to the front. No running. Anyone running will be pulled out of line.

    No holding area, so whatever you had in line such as cards, chairs, guitar, books, had to be returned to the car before the doors opened.

    I agree that one person should not be allowed to hold a spot for 15 buddies, but certainly one person can be allowed to hold a spot for their ticket buddy only.


    What I'd like to see is this:
    Have a GA ticket and want super-close? Get in a line about an hour before doors open. You get a number. A random number is drawn. The person with the lucky number lines up first. The person with the next-higher number lines up as the #2 spot... and so on and so forth.

    If there's 200 people, that's 100 numbers... 100 10C members and 100 buddies... Number 52 is drawn. Whoever is #52 goes in first followed by 53-100 and then 1-51.

    Once these people are all situated, doors open.

    Anyone else in GA, but not wanting to be up close can enter at the regular time when doors open.

    Great idea. Some of the hardcore GA contingent won't like it because it removes their ability to just outlast people by showing up the day before, but if the goal is to get new faces up front (which I've heard as the reason, though obviously just speculation), this accomplishes it hands down the best.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    IamTom said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Regarding the GA line, in 2014, 10C sent out an email that went something like this:

    Line up whenever the heck you want to. Three hours before, fine. Three days before, fine. It was permissible to get out of line for a few minutes for food, bathroom, pick up tickets, etc. A system involving a list with numbers (such as to get out of line for hours and hours) was not permissible. Talk to people nearby you so they can hold your spot and you can hold their spot. Once the doors open, you walk in a calm and peaceful manner to the front. No running. Anyone running will be pulled out of line.

    No holding area, so whatever you had in line such as cards, chairs, guitar, books, had to be returned to the car before the doors opened.

    I agree that one person should not be allowed to hold a spot for 15 buddies, but certainly one person can be allowed to hold a spot for their ticket buddy only.


    What I'd like to see is this:
    Have a GA ticket and want super-close? Get in a line about an hour before doors open. You get a number. A random number is drawn. The person with the lucky number lines up first. The person with the next-higher number lines up as the #2 spot... and so on and so forth.

    If there's 200 people, that's 100 numbers... 100 10C members and 100 buddies... Number 52 is drawn. Whoever is #52 goes in first followed by 53-100 and then 1-51.

    Once these people are all situated, doors open.

    Anyone else in GA, but not wanting to be up close can enter at the regular time when doors open.

    love it!
    200 people an hour before? Ziggo1 last year there was a couple of thousand at least an hour before. Ziggo2 750+. Leeds, in torrential rain, 1000. Berlin 1000s. And if you said, hey do you want to be super close I can't imagine many would've said no.



    He's talking about US GA which is very small compared to the seated sections. It obviously is different in Europe where GA is much larger.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited December 2015
    Please stop talking about the line/list. There is no list. That shit was officially dealt with by the 10club and figured out along time ago.

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  • Holly9075
    Holly9075 Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 195

    So if one was to have a hotel booked for the show they want to attend based on the last rumour is that crazy?

    I booked 4 hotels here in Canada! ~ You've got to do what you've got to do!! ;)

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  • Noload
    Noload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,635
    edited December 2015

    Please stop talking about the line/list. There is no list. That shit was officially dealt with by the 10club and figured out along time ago.

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    System needs to be improved IMO.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    Having been fortunate enough to secure GA tickets to recent shows, we walked in ~8pm so I say this as someone who has nothing invested in lining up to be upfront: I quite like the "Springsteen" method for GA entry. As I recall the same procedure was followed by local Ticketmaster outlets back in the day.

    Now, I can absolutely appreciate why someone would invest the time and energy to line up for a significant amount of time to get on the rail or be as close as possible; however, with the list nonsense and having witnessed on multiple occasions large groups of people joining the single person in line just prior to doors opening, the random number assigned to the front makes most sense.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Maybe if Ed and the boys quit throwing so many pics and tambourines into the crowd, no one would care where they were in the GA section.
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    There will always be people who behave like assholes.
    I would like to be on the rail one time, just to see how it feels. But it is not mega important to me...

    I would like it if they changed the lottery process so that you can only choose the shows, not the seating. And if you want to be included in the GA drawing, you check a box for that. This way, no one knows what they will get, there will be a little more surprise (like the front row seats in older times) and the people who feel the need to be in GA for every show have it a little harder, so others get the chance to experience it as well.

    Now with my three hotel reservations, I am ready for the announcement :lol: Bring it on!
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,790
    I am a veteran of many Springsteen shows ...approaching 100...and let me tell you that most hate the GA lottery..unless you win of course. The stress leading up to the number draw is horrible! I feel like if you want to do the time you should get the reward. But that said I have never sat in seats for Bruce since 2005.
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,790
    And to clarify..there are some shows that are small turnouts for lottery and nearly everyone gets in the pit...you just draw for position
  • Noload
    Noload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,635

    And to clarify..there are some shows that are small turnouts for lottery and nearly everyone gets in the pit...you just draw for position

    When do people show up for this..like day of show I mean? Thanks
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  • I am a veteran of many Springsteen shows ...approaching 100...and let me tell you that most hate the GA lottery..unless you win of course. The stress leading up to the number draw is horrible! I feel like if you want to do the time you should get the reward. But that said I have never sat in seats for Bruce since 2005.

    Well, the GA system in Europe for Springsteen shows doesn`t work either(the list)
    This has gone way to far, with people camping out up to 5, yes 5 days before the actual show.
    So, I think the GA lottery might be the best way for all parties
  • I'm a Truck
    I'm a Truck Milwaukee Posts: 3,508

    There will always be people who behave like assholes.
    and the people who feel the need to be in GA for every show have it a little harder, so others get the chance to experience it as well.

    yup
  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 771

    There will always be people who behave like assholes.
    I would like to be on the rail one time, just to see how it feels. But it is not mega important to me...

    I would like it if they changed the lottery process so that you can only choose the shows, not the seating. And if you want to be included in the GA drawing, you check a box for that. This way, no one knows what they will get, there will be a little more surprise (like the front row seats in older times) and the people who feel the need to be in GA for every show have it a little harder, so others get the chance to experience it as well.

    Now with my three hotel reservations, I am ready for the announcement :lol: Bring it on!

    This is the method that makes their ticketing system as fair as it can be.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    bburg1551 said:

    he is now genuinely concerned that I am part of a cult. .

    You say it like it's a bad thing.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    FrankieG said:

    my2hands said:

    OMG 120 pages of painful bollocks, piss myself if they announce they are taking a break to record a new album......like it was mentioned. I want them to tour, but 120 pages and it just a bunch of made up dates........seriously......

    yep a bunch of made up dates- check back Friday to see how fake they all are
    I'm going to guess at least 75% of the original cities will end up being accurate, with some dates shuffled around...
    agreed

    And if I'm wrong I hope no one quoted this so I can edit it and delete any history lol
    ;)
    damn you Frankie lol
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