The new face of terrorism

I do find it interesting how this incident in TN is similar to Benghazi. Will there be similar outrage as to why the military didn't act quicker to stop this guy from moving between two different locations? Five people dead here vs four across the world.

yes I'm being sarcastic....but if there was right wing outrage over Benghazi shouldn't there be similar outrage here?

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't speak that language I guess.

edit: I guess I do have a question. When you said "and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess..."

who were you referring to specifically?

obama, he is the commander and chief right ?
and I"ve been see a lot of outrage on social media but not from main stream media other than Fox.

Godfather.

He didn't impose the gun free zone. Are you blaming Obama because the Dept of Defense instituted one over 20 years ago?

There is a reason that you only see this on Faux. Because it's false.

callen said:

Godfather. said:

Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

"Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

"U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

So commerce always brings societies closer. The more trade, travel and relations the more the people of the lands realize that those in power aren't acting on their best interests.

Large segment of Iranian people are progressive, if that's the right word, and giving them more access to the west is good. Same as Cuba, the more we trade the more we intermingle the less power leaders have. Add social media and further brings us together. Why China and more North Korea try to control information.

Iran would of gotten the bomb with trade sanctions but now the people may be able to make a difference. We need to trade. We need parties from both sides relying on others for their gains. It's a good thing.

As to thread topic the less strife and less power we the people give Ayatollahs and our fear mongers( Republicans and FOX) the less strife we'll have. Break free of the fear. Dont give them a platform.

Good point and perspective here Cal.I know they have a young progressive society craving western amenities and culture.I think you may be correct that this can in deed creative a positive change from within.

Godfather. said:

why is obama constantly trying to make deals with Iran and other middle eastern countries when time and time again it ends up bad for the US ?

Godfather.

Would you prefer that he take the US to war and have that go bad, like Bush did?
What it comes down to is that the Middle East isn't going anywhere. The US can either work to have good relations with them, or have bad relations with them. I know which one I prefer.

This seemed like a good enough thread to post this latest story in.
Another day and another radical Islamic wacko tries to kill innocent people.This time on a train in France.But uh-oh ,three military dudes were on the train and beat him up and restrained him.Other then non life treating injuries seems like they literally dodged a bullet and a big tragedy here.This shits going on daily.Ridiculous.

Apparently you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than either one of those possibilities happening to you. And you are 1904 times more likely to die in a car accident.

gimmesometruth27 said:

i am much more concerned about the southern conservative christian anti-governmnet homegrown american terrorists than i am the muslim ones that everyone seems to love to demonize around here.

i have a better chance of getting killed by one of them than i do the muslim ones.

Great deflection Rod.sheesh.
Im not refrencing homegrown terror.But lately that has also been islamic supporters as much as dumb christian rednecks.
And make no mistake the assholes in ISIS are doing a fine job demonizing themselves with all these acr of terror.
I love how some here fail to acknowledge the growing issue with radical islam.thats cool im sure its israels and the conservatives fault anyway.

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i am much more concerned about the southern conservative christian anti-governmnet homegrown american terrorists than i am the muslim ones that everyone seems to love to demonize around here.

i have a better chance of getting killed by one of them than i do the muslim ones.

Great deflection Rod.sheesh.
Im not refrencing homegrown terror.But lately that has also been islamic supporters as much as dumb christian rednecks.
And make no mistake the assholes in ISIS are doing a fine job demonizing themselves with all these acr of terror.
I love how some here fail to acknowledge the growing issue with radical islam.thats cool im sure its israels and the conservatives fault anyway.

i was not deflecting anything. i just stated my opinion and said that I personally have a higher risk of being harmed by a christian anti-government lunatic than a muslim one.

honest question for you rr. when was the last time a muslim did anything that could be considered an act of terrorism in the continental united states? how recently? i guaranfuckintee you there have been way more wackadoo christian terrorist attacks here on american soil than there have been muslim ones. and yet everyone fears the islamic ones. why is that?

gimmesometruth27 said:

rr165892 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i am much more concerned about the southern conservative christian anti-governmnet homegrown american terrorists than i am the muslim ones that everyone seems to love to demonize around here.

i have a better chance of getting killed by one of them than i do the muslim ones.

Great deflection Rod.sheesh.
Im not refrencing homegrown terror.But lately that has also been islamic supporters as much as dumb christian rednecks.
And make no mistake the assholes in ISIS are doing a fine job demonizing themselves with all these acr of terror.
I love how some here fail to acknowledge the growing issue with radical islam.thats cool im sure its israels and the conservatives fault anyway.

i was not deflecting anything. i just stated my opinion and said that I personally have a higher risk of being harmed by a christian anti-government lunatic than a muslim one.

honest question for you rr. when was the last time a muslim did anything that could be considered an act of terrorism in the continental united states? how recently? i guaranfuckintee you there have been way more wackadoo christian terrorist attacks here on american soil than there have been muslim ones. and yet everyone fears the islamic ones. why is that?

So because I don't walk out of my house in fear and I'm not worried the Radical Islamic bogey man is coming to get me I should have blinders on to a movement of violence that seems to have a new attack somewhere in the world daily.
I truly am not worried about IsIS attacking Jupiter Fl.But I'd be lying if I didn't think about them wanting and trying to attack soft targets.And you can't tell me that isn't a relevant concern.Maybe not at the hands of a Toyota pick up full of terrorists but at the hands of a some disenfranchised American sympathizer who has daddy issues and wants to be part of the big leagues.I have children who take public transportation in NYC daily.Do I keep that in the back of my mind? You fucking bet.
Two weeks ago a Isis loving douche bag shot up a recruitment office,a few weeks before that 2 Muslims radicals tried to shoot up a convention.Daily plots are foiled.Its happening all around you.But that really isn't my concern.My issue is the continued displays of violence on soft and innocent targets around the world.We should have learned during WW2 not to turn a blind eye to these kinds of things.
I've said many times I have no issue with Muslims and I make it clear when describing the bad ones as radicals or fundamentalists.Any fundamentalist or hardline religion that kills in the name of,is dangerous.Im critical of certain Israeli actions,Russian actions,etc as well.
But radical muslimism and Islamic fundamentalist values(the backwards sexist,rascist,values) and this ridiculous Caliphate bullshit is something that needs to be kept in check.Not because of what they want to believe but because they want to hurt,kill,name others to push their agenda.And that is not ok.So Fuck em.They are no better then human pieces of shit.

Sometimes it's a bit like living in a Fear Factory, isn't it?

Don't go there. "It's Bad For Ya"!