The new face of terrorism

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/18/tennessee-gunman-first-radicalized-now-idolized-by-internet-jihadists/

I actually waited for someone to bring this up just see the reaction from the train members

how many of these _________ (fill in the blank) live among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?
it seems nobody wants to talk about this incedint but all around the US and the world this kind of shit keeps happening.....pretty big impact for such a small percentage
of the so called radical muslim commumity.

and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess...

Godfather.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Fill in your own blank, it's your post. Own it or drop it.
    And what is your guess? Obama? Lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I can't tell, but it appears that you are borderlining something that could be misconstrued as very unpleasant...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
    Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

    Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    "Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

    Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

    "U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

    Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

    Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

    The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

    Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

    Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

    Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
    Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

    Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    "Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

    Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

    "U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

    Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

    Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

    The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

    Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

    Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

    Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

    How is this relevant?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited July 2015
    how many of these religious people live among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    how many of these mentally ill live among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    how many of these idiots live among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    how many of these Muslimlive among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?

    Is that the one you were getting at?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,501
    scary stuff godfather.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Fill in your own blank, it's your post. Own it or drop it.
    And what is your guess? Obama? Lol

    says me " it's all obama's fault" LOL!!

    Godfather.

  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
    Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

    Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    "Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

    Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

    "U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

    Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

    Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

    The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

    Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

    Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

    Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

    So commerce always brings societies closer. The more trade, travel and relations the more the people of the lands realize that those in power aren't acting on their best interests.

    Large segment of Iranian people are progressive, if that's the right word, and giving them more access to the west is good. Same as Cuba, the more we trade the more we intermingle the less power leaders have. Add social media and further brings us together. Why China and more North Korea try to control information.

    Iran would of gotten the bomb with trade sanctions but now the people may be able to make a difference. We need to trade. We need parties from both sides relying on others for their gains. It's a good thing.

    As to thread topic the less strife and less power we the people give Ayatollahs and our fear mongers( Republicans and FOX) the less strife we'll have. Break free of the fear. Dont give them a platform.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    why is obama constantly trying to make deals with Iran and other middle eastern countries when time and time again it ends up bad for the US ?

    Godfather.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/18/tennessee-gunman-first-radicalized-now-idolized-by-internet-jihadists/

    I actually waited for someone to bring this up just see the reaction from the train members

    how many of these _________ (fill in the blank) live among us ? my question is why are they and thier familys still here in the US ?
    it seems nobody wants to talk about this incedint but all around the US and the world this kind of shit keeps happening.....pretty big impact for such a small percentage
    of the so called radical muslim commumity.

    and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess...

    Godfather.

    And as they idolize this ass, some idolize the exact same hate brought to you by our asses, FOX and war profiteers in US.

    Imagine the revenue drop if we lived in peace. Fuck fox.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    while I agree with you on the media or in your case Fox I was thinking just now how would we base our opinion on current events without the media ? all stations add thier own twist or opinion on any given news story and it does not mean we have to agree with the twist that is offered but we are given the necessary information to base our own ....twist or idea of the events as they unfold, it's like buying a wedding cake for a same sex wedding at a christian bakery,somebody with a little understanding would think why would someone spend thier money at a bakery that does not support thier views ? so we are able to find news sources that fit our views or entertainment needs...see ya there's a little media bullshit for everybody.

    Godfather.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    What?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ...is Fox really a war profiteer worse than any other network ? they all have an agenda and it's really comical to me to see the different reactions from networks. they all make money from wars I would think.

    Godfather.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    Once again without even opening up the thread I knew it was another Godfoxer production.



  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Once again without even opening up the thread I knew it was another Godfoxer production.



    ahhhh shux...your too kind, next thread I will give you full mention for your over whelming kindness and attention to detail, thank you.

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    edited July 2015
    Yeah and to answer your question....it was under George HW Bush that the gun ban on military bases was implemented by the DEPT OF DEFENSE. Why would you need to ask that question?

    www.google.com

    http://www.snopes.com/Politics/clintons/baseguns.asp

    Did you seriously think that was an Obama directive? Is that what Faux told you?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Yeah and to answer your question....it was under George HW Bush that the gun ban on military bases was implemented by the DEPT OF DEFENSE. Why would you need to ask that question?

    www.google.com

    http://www.snopes.com/Politics/clintons/baseguns.asp

    Did you seriously think that was an Obama directive? Is that what Faux told you?

    comander and chief.

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    edited July 2015
    I don't speak that language I guess.

    edit: I guess I do have a question. When you said "and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess..."

    who were you referring to specifically?
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    I do find it interesting how this incident in TN is similar to Benghazi. Will there be similar outrage as to why the military didn't act quicker to stop this guy from moving between two different locations? Five people dead here vs four across the world.

    yes I'm being sarcastic....but if there was right wing outrage over Benghazi shouldn't there be similar outrage here?
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    I don't speak that language I guess.

    edit: I guess I do have a question. When you said "and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess..."

    who were you referring to specifically?

    obama, he is the commander and chief right ?
    and I"ve been see a lot of outrage on social media but not from main stream media other than Fox.

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    edited July 2015

    I don't speak that language I guess.

    edit: I guess I do have a question. When you said "and who was the fucking idiot that imposed a "gun free" zone on a military base ?.......let me guess..."

    who were you referring to specifically?

    obama, he is the commander and chief right ?
    and I"ve been see a lot of outrage on social media but not from main stream media other than Fox.

    Godfather.

    He didn't impose the gun free zone. Are you blaming Obama because the Dept of Defense instituted one over 20 years ago?

    There is a reason that you only see this on Faux. Because it's false.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    ...is Fox really a war profiteer worse than any other network ? they all have an agenda and it's really comical to me to see the different reactions from networks. they all make money from wars I would think.

    Godfather.

    If you're seriously wondering if Fox is much different than other news sources, then try watching/reading non-American sources. BBC world news or any of a host of European stations would give you disparate points of view.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    callen said:

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
    Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

    Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    "Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

    Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

    "U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

    Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

    Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

    The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

    Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

    Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

    Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

    So commerce always brings societies closer. The more trade, travel and relations the more the people of the lands realize that those in power aren't acting on their best interests.

    Large segment of Iranian people are progressive, if that's the right word, and giving them more access to the west is good. Same as Cuba, the more we trade the more we intermingle the less power leaders have. Add social media and further brings us together. Why China and more North Korea try to control information.

    Iran would of gotten the bomb with trade sanctions but now the people may be able to make a difference. We need to trade. We need parties from both sides relying on others for their gains. It's a good thing.

    As to thread topic the less strife and less power we the people give Ayatollahs and our fear mongers( Republicans and FOX) the less strife we'll have. Break free of the fear. Dont give them a platform.
    Good point and perspective here Cal.I know they have a young progressive society craving western amenities and culture.I think you may be correct that this can in deed creative a positive change from within.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday that a historic nuclear deal reached with world powers earlier this week won’t have any effect on Iran’s policy toward the U.S.
    Khamenei stated that if the leader of the free world wishes to reach out the touch the cobra then he should know he will be bit.

    Khamenei also said in a televised speech that U.S. policy in the Middle East runs counter to Tehran’s strategy and that Iran will continue to support its allies in the Middle East including the Lebanese, Hezbollah, Palestinian resistance groups and the Syrian government.

    "Our policy towards the arrogant U.S. government won't change at all," he said. He was addressing a large crowd in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV, to mark the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan.

    Iran calls its Lebanese ally Hezbollah a "resistance movement" while the U.S. describes it a terrorist group. And Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel; Khamenei in his Saturday speech described Israel as a "terrorist, baby-killer government."

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly opposed the deal, saying it will enable Iran to emerge from crippling economic sanctions while doing nothing to moderate Iran's aggressive behavior around the Middle East.

    "U.S. policies in the region are 180 degrees in contrast to Iran's policies," Khamenei said. "Whether this text (nuclear deal) is approved or disapproved, we won't give up supporting our friends in the region. The oppressed Palestinian nation, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, the honest mujahedeen of resistance in Lebanon and Palestine will enjoy our constant support."

    Iran’s direct talks with Washington was only limited to the nuclear issue and that there can’t be any dialogue or deal with the U.S. over any other issues, he said. However, Khamenei has said in the past that he door to other issues could open should the U.S. carry out its obligations under the deal in good faith.

    Khamenei’s comments are the most detailed since a deal was agreed upon earlier this week. His remarks are widely held because in most of Iran’s matters, he has the final say and could still back outy of the agreement. The deal between Iran and six world powers curbs Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the removal of sanctions that have crippled Iran’s economy.

    The hard-line stance on future negotiations with the U.S. quenches the idea Iran’s Foreign Minister brought up about cooperation between both parties on fighting the Islamic State.

    Javid Zarif said in an Eid message Friday that he hopes the nuclear deal could bring about a better relationship abroad. President Hassan Rouhani has preached a foreign policy of engagement based on mutual respect since his election in 2013, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Even with a deal reached, the U.S. and Iran still have obstacles to clear before anything official comes about but with any forethought and luck President Barack Obama will pull his head out of his ass but that is sure not to happen since he is hellbound on destroying America

    Iran’s parliament and the Supreme National Security Council must sign off on the deal, while Khamenei still has to agree to the deal.

    Congress has 60 days to weigh-in on the deal. President Barack Obama will veto any disapproving resolution should Congress find a more logical answer to the ill fated meeting of the morons

    So commerce always brings societies closer. The more trade, travel and relations the more the people of the lands realize that those in power aren't acting on their best interests.

    Large segment of Iranian people are progressive, if that's the right word, and giving them more access to the west is good. Same as Cuba, the more we trade the more we intermingle the less power leaders have. Add social media and further brings us together. Why China and more North Korea try to control information.

    Iran would of gotten the bomb with trade sanctions but now the people may be able to make a difference. We need to trade. We need parties from both sides relying on others for their gains. It's a good thing.

    As to thread topic the less strife and less power we the people give Ayatollahs and our fear mongers( Republicans and FOX) the less strife we'll have. Break free of the fear. Dont give them a platform.
    Good point and perspective here Cal.I know they have a young progressive society craving western amenities and culture.I think you may be correct that this can in deed creative a positive change from within.
    Good points, Callen and RR. Recommend seeing the film "Heavy Metal in Baghdad" which is about the band Acrassicauda to get a picture of how many in the younger middle east generation would like to rock hard with us instead fighting.



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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited July 2015

    why is obama constantly trying to make deals with Iran and other middle eastern countries when time and time again it ends up bad for the US ?

    Godfather.

    Would you prefer that he take the US to war and have that go bad, like Bush did?
    What it comes down to is that the Middle East isn't going anywhere. The US can either work to have good relations with them, or have bad relations with them. I know which one I prefer.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,147

    why is obama constantly trying to make deals with Iran and other middle eastern countries when time and time again it ends up bad for the US ?

    Godfather.

    Why are you constantly trying to convince us that negative trends which are inherently American are exclusively Obaman, and incapable of (or unwilling to) see otherwise?
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    This seemed like a good enough thread to post this latest story in.
    Another day and another radical Islamic wacko tries to kill innocent people.This time on a train in France.But uh-oh ,three military dudes were on the train and beat him up and restrained him.Other then non life treating injuries seems like they literally dodged a bullet and a big tragedy here.This shits going on daily.Ridiculous.
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