Goodbye, this use to be a really cool place
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I already admitted I was wrong, I thought it was something it isn't, and yes I left twice before, but my love of the music pulled me back, but since there is so little talk of that anymore than my presence on the Porch won't be missed anyway, I don't contribute near what I use to, and have been growing more and more detached anyway, I have seen people who have been members for 10 years plus leave since I have been here, so from that perspective my leaving pales greatly in comparison, not looking for sympathy or anything other than a place where talking about the music and the band and how that can make the world a better place is the focal point0
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And the lack of that one forum is keeping you from it?Big Bank Hank said:
actually we all are special or at least have the potential to be, I need to be constantly evolvinghedonist said:
Ahhh. So the other posts are muck and yours aren't.Big Bank Hank said:
it is pointless it gets lost in the muckForce Of Nature said:change the world? Cameron really did romanticise it for you didnt he

This place is whatever you want it to be, if you want to talk about a certain song then create a thread for it, if you want to talk about merch create a thread for it
I've found many treasures while digging in the so-called dirt (cue Peter Gabriel!).
We're not all special little flowers, Hank.
I guess that's not what I'm getting.
In the end, you're pissed and feel your progress is hampered because you didn't get a requested forum put into place and can't be arsed to sift through the dirt the rest of us created so that your views shine?
Honestly, that's how it's coming across. If I'm incorrect, please feel free to set me straight.
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Can I check, what do you mean by making the world a better place?Big Bank Hank said:a place where talking about the music and the band and how that can make the world a better place is the focal point
This is a band forum so there's only so much you should expect here.
From my count on the first page there are:
Chicago Wishlist Fundraiser
memorial fundraiser
Vitalogy foundation
Flight to mars fundraiser
Fellow fan in need raffle
Thats not bad for a band 'making the world a better place'0 -
I do appreciate all the charity work they do and try to support as many of the causes as I can, but what I am talking about is about life and ideas and way to become better people and make the world a better place, which only comes from talking about feelings and emotions and love and wisdom0
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You'll be back, again. This place is like sex.www.cluthelee.com0
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lol, thanks for the laugh2-feign-reluctance said:You'll be back, again. This place is like sex.
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Why the need to be all or nothing? You're gonna go from posting lots to leaving? Maybe just take a break and lurk every now and then. Most things in life aren't black and white. There are a lot of good people here. Maybe they don't post all the time but they are here.
Do whatever you want obviously, just think you're taking this board a bit too seriously.0 -
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I am a goddamned snowflake, I don't care WHAT Tyler Durden says.hedonist said:
We're not all special little flowers, Hank.NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
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This is strange to me, given the various threads not just about charity work of the band but of those who have given of themselves in so many ways, to both friends and strangers.Big Bank Hank said:I do appreciate all the charity work they do and try to support as many of the causes as I can, but what I am talking about is about life and ideas and way to become better people and make the world a better place, which only comes from talking about feelings and emotions and love and wisdom
The initial post was about something different, no? Band, tour dates and songs. I want my forum, dammit! - is how it came across.
I think the other threads you mentioned up there address your latest post vs the first one.
Have you changed course or am I missing something?
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Hank, I always enjoy your polls! Will miss them if you leave. ):"A beacon on dry land"0
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I've seen breakups less dramatic than this...0
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I agree with this. A place just for talking about merch would be great. I like discussing merch - specifically vinyl - a lot. For collectors, there is a lot to say. It's a hobby, and it's good to talk it to death with like-minded people, lol. But separating it from discussing the band's music would be great, since I and we all love discussing the music too.JustaPJFan said:This all is a good reason for PJ to give us a SPIN THE BLACK CIRLCE place. Only vinyl talk allowed. Think that would solve you're problem
. If I were you I would stay. I am not long on these boards and know that you're very much liked around these parts. Once the mystery vinyl is landed everywhere I think that will clear up the vinyl threads. Everything will turn to normal, I presume.
That said, i kind of feel like just about everything that can be discussed about the music has already been said on these boards. Unless PJ are making new music, the heavy discussions about it about are bound to peter out. There continues to be new vinyl/merch to discuss, but very little new music. I think that's why we're seeing so many threads about merch now - that is simply what is currently happening in PJ land, and that is what we know is most likely to be coming down the pipe too.
And JustaPJFan is right - once the mystery vinyl is all recieved and poured over, those threads will also go away.
Besides, talking about PJ vinyl IS largely about the music. A lot of people are so excited about it because they get to spin it!Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
FFS there's 2950 pages of threads on The Porch, if the ones on the first page aren't to your liking, move on to the next page.225xxx - 6/28/00, 10/20/01, 10/22/01, 9/11/06, 9/22/06, 9/23/06, 6/18/07, 6/26/07, 8/15/09, 6/25/10, 6/30/10, 7/4/12, 7/5/12, 7/7/12, 7/10/12, 6/26/14, 6/28/14, 7/3/18, 7/5/180
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Also a very good point. The option is to keep starting your own threads of you're not happy with the ones that already exist.mrk2 said:FFS there's 2950 pages of threads on The Porch, if the ones on the first page aren't to your liking, move on to the next page.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Haha, this made me laugh. It gets a thumbs up from me :plus_one:mrk2 said:FFS there's 2950 pages of threads on The Porch, if the ones on the first page aren't to your liking, move on to the next page.
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So go to the words and music section of the site. That's what that section is for. Problem solved.Big Bank Hank said:I counted 14 of the 28 threads on the first page were merchandise/vinyl related, it use to be that 80 to 90% of the threads were about the music or tour dates or stuff band related, and the merchandise threads keep taking over more and more of the porch, no offense to people who want to spend their time speaking about the merchandise, just not very inspiring for me, I joined this group because I assumed that it was a bunch of people who wanted to talk about the music. I know this thread will get locked because there is a constant attempt to limit free expression even when clearly nothing I have said violates the board rules. I will stay until they announce a Canadian Tour, but I will only be keeping that one thread active for my many friends in Canada, after that I am gone, probably going to let my membership expire too (I might keep it just for the setlist threads over in Given To Fly), I can always get tickets on Facebook. Maybe it is just me, but I can't see why it so hard to have a section just for people who want to talk about the band, the tour dates and the songs (although maybe this is the way the band wants it, as they play fewer and fewer shows, maybe they want it to be all about merchandise), but all these other threads make it too hard to sift through, so my best wishes, but this time is for good unless they create a forum that is about the songs, tour dates and the band, so good luck to everyone, this is a bummer, there were so many great discussions in here, my time on The Porch is nearing it's end, proof that not all change is for the good (although I am sure some are rejoicing, lol). No hard feelings, best wishes to everyone.

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*hedonist said:
We're all brilliant asterisks! (Ask, Hedonist, and ye shall receive!)
In all seriousness, my time here on the boards has been brief in relation to time other people have been here. In my short time, I've noticed that the boards have seasons. When touring, you have the ISO (name your venue here) threads. During Mystery Box sales, we have those threads. Sometimes I sift. Sometimes I decide to fold the laundry and clean the dishes instead. But I do agree with 2-feign.
The forum isn't time clock attached. Be in when you want to be. Be out when you want to be. Just make sure that you enjoy what you are doing. (Whether it be here or elsewhere.) If you aren't, then make a change.2014: Cincinnati
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Ha! You rock, with this said not as a recipient.deadendp said:
*hedonist said:
We're all brilliant asterisks! (Ask, Hedonist, and ye shall receive!)
In all seriousness, my time here on the boards has been brief in relation to time other people have been here. In my short time, I've noticed that the boards have seasons. When touring, you have the ISO (name your venue here) threads. During Mystery Box sales, we have those threads. Sometimes I sift. Sometimes I decide to fold the laundry and clean the dishes instead. But I do agree with 2-feign.
The forum isn't time clock attached. Be in when you want to be. Be out when you want to be. Just make sure that you enjoy what you are doing. (Whether it be here or elsewhere.) If you aren't, then make a change.
I'm actually listening to the Benny version of Down at the moment.
PERFECT.
Long live this music, and us with it, long as we may run.
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