Your pick for first U.S. female president?

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

badbrains said:

BS44325 said:

badbrains said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Has Hillary been convicted of wrong doing? No.

So as all can see I picked Hilliary. Cause I like her? No. Cause I want Bill back? No.

Cause only Dem that appears to have a chance of beating those that pander to Idiocracy and may allow this support to allow another Roberts, Scalia or Thomas.

Unlimited fucking corporation campaign donations. Fuck fuck fuck.

I find this surprising

Edit- not being sarcastic

Elaborate

I am just amazed that you can look past all the financial dealings. If anyone is in the pockets of corporations this time around it is her. You can't rail against corporations and money like you do and support a Clinton can you? There are untainted Democratic candidates out there. For you to support her just seems so unprincipled.

"this time around" whereas from 2000-2008 it was your 2 fucktards who were in bed with money corporations. My how quickly we forget Halliburton. Or Wall Street. And that was ok with u back then. Well, don't know that for sure cuz you just came out of the woodworks recently and got all political

Well that's my point...if Obama brought the change why would anyone go back to another Bush or Clinton? It just blows my mind that Callen can support Hillary even as a lesser of two evils. Do the possible supreme court nominations really trump all else?

I can't and won't speak for my man callen. But I will say that BOTH sides suck major donkey balls. And we need some new faces and change. It's not gonna happen.

Well I know that most people on here would never consider voting for a Republican but I think they have a ton of fresh faces with very diverse backgrounds and I'm looking forward to see them all debate.

Fresh faces, yes for sure. There are some fringe nutjobs in the running though.
Hillary blows, but the Supreme Court nominees and balances with the other branches are probably more important than the candidate themsel. Allowing the Tea Party to gain more influence would plunge us into immediate war and dire economic consequences.

Tea Party does not equal neo-con. Some parts overlap on the ven diagram of conservatism but others don't. For example Rand Paul would be considered a "tea party" candidate but not a neo-con candidate.

And as far as the courts are concerned...this court for the most part will be deciding marriage, the ACA etc. Sure other cases come up from time to time but social issues will pretty much be put to bed after this ruling. Roe is never getting overturned so I am just not sure why the make up of the next court is so important that you could look past the current transgressions of the Clinton's.

I see what you are saying, but issues will always be around. Campaign contributions and finance, immigration, marijuana... Not to mention the fact that an uber con court could undo any progress at any time.

I just don't find that likely. The court has pretty much been conservative since Reagan and we haven't really seen the undoing of progress.

callen said:

BS44325 said:

badbrains said:

BS44325 said:

badbrains said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Has Hillary been convicted of wrong doing? No.

So as all can see I picked Hilliary. Cause I like her? No. Cause I want Bill back? No.

Cause only Dem that appears to have a chance of beating those that pander to Idiocracy and may allow this support to allow another Roberts, Scalia or Thomas.

Unlimited fucking corporation campaign donations. Fuck fuck fuck.

I find this surprising

Edit- not being sarcastic

Elaborate

I am just amazed that you can look past all the financial dealings. If anyone is in the pockets of corporations this time around it is her. You can't rail against corporations and money like you do and support a Clinton can you? There are untainted Democratic candidates out there. For you to support her just seems so unprincipled.

"this time around" whereas from 2000-2008 it was your 2 fucktards who were in bed with money corporations. My how quickly we forget Halliburton. Or Wall Street. And that was ok with u back then. Well, don't know that for sure cuz you just came out of the woodworks recently and got all political

Well that's my point...if Obama brought the change why would anyone go back to another Bush or Clinton? It just blows my mind that Callen can support Hillary even as a lesser of two evils. Do the possible supreme court nominations really trump all else?

I can't and won't speak for my man callen. But I will say that BOTH sides suck major donkey balls. And we need some new faces and change. It's not gonna happen.

Well I know that most people on here would never consider voting for a Republican but I think they have a ton of fresh faces with very diverse backgrounds and I'm looking forward to see them all debate.

So BS you are right I don't like Clinton and wish we'd not see a Bush or Clinton again. And yes she's done some questionable things.

The thread topic was first woman president so looking and only one in race and she is front runner so she may well be the first and I'll likely chose her versus what other side picks as what's most important to me is Supreme Court nominations. Couple more Scalia's and we 're truly fucked.

Also after Obama, Clinton is the next whipping post for conservatives so you are likely getting barraged by anti Hillary crap. When I listen to her words about policy and her job she represents better than the ayatollahs on the other side.

Her words? What words? She has answered a grand total of 7 questions she announced her candidacy.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/here-are-all-seven-media-questions-hillary-clinton-has-answered-during-her-campaign-20150427

She is pretty much not taking a stand on any issue right now. Take the trade deal for example...where does she stand? That's called coasting. And as far as the Ayatollahs are concerned...in the last election Hillary was fundamentally against same-sex marriage. Her husband passed the defence of marriage act. If anyone has a history of religious conviction trumping sensible policy it is her.

badbrains said:

Godfather. said:

badbrains said:

Godfather. said:

badbrains said:

josevolution said:

By the way it's not $ 500 million for lecture appearances by Bill Clinton its $ 500 K , no one gets paid 500 million to lecture not even your beloved Jesus Christ lol

100% Jose haha

ooop's my mistake, and I take it Ala or what ever you call him would ? LOL! grow up bb.

Godfather.

Don't make me send you a tampon GF, I was laughing at the $500 million per speaking engagement. Us Muslims believe in Jesus, thought all Christians knew this.

no, there is very little I know about US Muslims but you saying that they believe in Jesus is interesting,
what do they believe ? (about Jesus) and no I'm not being sarcastic, if you have the time I would be interested to hear about that.

Godfather.

We Muslims around the world believe Jesus was a prophet and hold him up to the highest standards. The only difference between Islam and Christianity when it comes to Jesus is that we don't believe he's gods son. Pretty much it.

"....the only difference....". A small, but crucial difference

If things stay as they are, I'm voting for Jill Stein again. I am liberal to the core and Hillary is too moderate although I understand she is pandering to get votes. With the announcement of Bernie Sanders running, I am hoping that he pushes her to embrace more liberal ideology as I am tired of the term "liberal" being a bad thing. I own my liberal, progressive agenda and wish these candidates would as well. While I am sure Stein will not get elected I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.

I was gonna vote "other" but there's no space to write my name in.

brianlux said:

ldent42 said:

I was gonna vote "other" but there's no space to write my name in.

I couldn't figure out how to edit the poll soooooo:
OTHER (fill in the blank)
☐ ldent42

Time to add Carly Fiorina to the list Brian

BS44325 said:

Time to add Carly Fiorina to the list Brian

you can't be serious.

job killer herself.

doesn't even have the sense to buy up the domain name carlyfiorina.org.

facepalm.