Shannon Hoon Film: A Danny Clinch Documentary

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    Suziemay said:

    Reached $40K bump. 12 days/$60K to go. Not looking good for reaching their $100K goal...

    they recently added some items in an attempt to draw more people to the lower donations. I don't immediately recall what they were, but it wasn't enough to warrant any excitement from me, anyway.

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  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Just added at the $375 (normally $750):

    LIMITED REWARD - A signed 11x14 Danny Clinch print (retails for $750) Your choice listed on this page: Bob Dylan, Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Neil Young, Pearl Jam, The Black Keys, Bruce Springsteen, Jim James (My Morning Jacket), Foo Fighters, Green Day, Patti Smith, Tupac.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/53195090/shannon-hoon-film-a-danny-clinch-documentary
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    edited April 2015
    I noticed they are beefing up the lower amounts too; For only $20 you now get:
    Polaroid Book. Signed personalized paperback by Danny Clinch. Cover features Bruce Springsteen. Book features Eddie Vedder, Keith Richards, Black Keys, and more.

    Before you essentially got nothing at all for this amount. They obviously figured out their huge kickstarter fundraising mistake and fixed it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    PJ_Soul said:

    I noticed they are beefing up the lower amounts too; For only $20 you now get:
    Polaroid Book. Signed personalized paperback by Danny Clinch. Cover features Bruce Springsteen. Book features Eddie Vedder, Keith Richards, Black Keys, and more.

    Before you essentially got nothing at all for this amount. They obviously figured out their huge kickstarter fundraising mistake and fixed it.

    Oh man, I didn't even see that. I wonder if I can get 2.5 of those for the $50 I donated :lol:

    (no seriously).
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Suziemay said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I noticed they are beefing up the lower amounts too; For only $20 you now get:
    Polaroid Book. Signed personalized paperback by Danny Clinch. Cover features Bruce Springsteen. Book features Eddie Vedder, Keith Richards, Black Keys, and more.

    Before you essentially got nothing at all for this amount. They obviously figured out their huge kickstarter fundraising mistake and fixed it.

    Oh man, I didn't even see that. I wonder if I can get 2.5 of those for the $50 I donated :lol:

    (no seriously).
    It's a very fair question!
    It's definitely not ideal for them to suddenly improve the rewards with only 8 days to go. Not unless they plan on including everyone who donated up until that point... but I doubt they will, and I guess they don't technically have any obligation there. I believe they can add stuff as they see fit, no? ... Isn't fair though.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    PJ_Soul said:

    Suziemay said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I noticed they are beefing up the lower amounts too; For only $20 you now get:
    Polaroid Book. Signed personalized paperback by Danny Clinch. Cover features Bruce Springsteen. Book features Eddie Vedder, Keith Richards, Black Keys, and more.

    Before you essentially got nothing at all for this amount. They obviously figured out their huge kickstarter fundraising mistake and fixed it.

    Oh man, I didn't even see that. I wonder if I can get 2.5 of those for the $50 I donated :lol:

    (no seriously).
    It's a very fair question!
    It's definitely not ideal for them to suddenly improve the rewards with only 8 days to go. Not unless they plan on including everyone who donated up until that point... but I doubt they will, and I guess they don't technically have any obligation there. I believe they can add stuff as they see fit, no? ... Isn't fair though.
    I don't think they have an obligation but it isn't ideal for sure. If I were them, I would write to everyone who donated previously to let them know there are new reward options, and that they should write back if there's anything they are interested in for their level of donation.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    some of the stuff that band does I find very weird. I mean, they have a new lead singer. they made a (really good) album with him (and he killed it live-saw them in a 600 capacity club). then he wasn't in the band. then he is again. now, they are still doing shows with the guy. yet, everything on the website still points to SHANNON still being in the band. most of their newer merch is even geared towards the days when Shannon was in the band. their shirts all have a sexed up teenager Bee Girl on them, one of their NEW hoodies says "Hoon and Bros". Seriously? great way for your singer to feel like he's second rate. Can you imagine if everything Alice In Chains sold had a picture of Layne on it?

    and yeah, if they are adding perks to donation tiers that previously had nothing, the people that donated should absolutely get those new perks.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    and this is also assuming they have the money to give. one major hit single 20 years ago probably wouldn't pay the bills of 4 guys and the 5th guy's estate for very long.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    edited April 2015
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    and this is also assuming they have the money to give. one major hit single 20 years ago probably wouldn't pay the bills of 4 guys and the 5th guy's estate for very long.

    Yeah, I don't think the members of the current Blind Melon are rich. They earn a living, but that's probably about it..... Actually, I wonder if just the Blind Melon gig does even that. It's not like the current band is raking in the dough through album sales and shows, lol. Can they even sell out a bar??
    And royalties from S/T and Soup spread that thin couldn't be doing much for them at all. Probably just pennies at this point.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    and this is also assuming they have the money to give. one major hit single 20 years ago probably wouldn't pay the bills of 4 guys and the 5th guy's estate for very long.

    True. Rogers is a corporate lawyer these days. Went to law school after the band broke up.
    www.cluthelee.com
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    some of the stuff that band does I find very weird. I mean, they have a new lead singer. they made a (really good) album with him (and he killed it live-saw them in a 600 capacity club). then he wasn't in the band. then he is again. now, they are still doing shows with the guy. yet, everything on the website still points to SHANNON still being in the band. most of their newer merch is even geared towards the days when Shannon was in the band. their shirts all have a sexed up teenager Bee Girl on them, one of their NEW hoodies says "Hoon and Bros". Seriously? great way for your singer to feel like he's second rate. Can you imagine if everything Alice In Chains sold had a picture of Layne on it?

    and yeah, if they are adding perks to donation tiers that previously had nothing, the people that donated should absolutely get those new perks.

    Really good point here. Always my all time #2 band, but I think there's a point where it does get a little weird. Agreed about the 08' tour - Travis sounded fucking awesome and all the new stuff worked well with the old stuff. Now they seem like a full blown nostalgic act who tours in South America and doesn't make any more new Melon music. Thorn is pretty fucking active though - all over other people's stuff, producing, etc,.
    www.cluthelee.com
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    edited April 2015
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    some of the stuff that band does I find very weird. I mean, they have a new lead singer. they made a (really good) album with him (and he killed it live-saw them in a 600 capacity club). then he wasn't in the band. then he is again. now, they are still doing shows with the guy. yet, everything on the website still points to SHANNON still being in the band. most of their newer merch is even geared towards the days when Shannon was in the band. their shirts all have a sexed up teenager Bee Girl on them, one of their NEW hoodies says "Hoon and Bros". Seriously? great way for your singer to feel like he's second rate. Can you imagine if everything Alice In Chains sold had a picture of Layne on it?

    and yeah, if they are adding perks to donation tiers that previously had nothing, the people that donated should absolutely get those new perks.

    Really good point here. Always my all time #2 band, but I think there's a point where it does get a little weird. Agreed about the 08' tour - Travis sounded fucking awesome and all the new stuff worked well with the old stuff. Now they seem like a full blown nostalgic act who tours in South America and doesn't make any more new Melon music. Thorn is pretty fucking active though - all over other people's stuff, producing, etc,.
    I imagine the singer knew what he was getting into, and have to assume he's okay with it, or else he'd quit. Let's face it. He was chosen because he sounds like Shannon Hoon. The band 100% feeds off of what the band was when Hoon was alive. The guy knows that.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    PJ_Soul said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    some of the stuff that band does I find very weird. I mean, they have a new lead singer. they made a (really good) album with him (and he killed it live-saw them in a 600 capacity club). then he wasn't in the band. then he is again. now, they are still doing shows with the guy. yet, everything on the website still points to SHANNON still being in the band. most of their newer merch is even geared towards the days when Shannon was in the band. their shirts all have a sexed up teenager Bee Girl on them, one of their NEW hoodies says "Hoon and Bros". Seriously? great way for your singer to feel like he's second rate. Can you imagine if everything Alice In Chains sold had a picture of Layne on it?

    and yeah, if they are adding perks to donation tiers that previously had nothing, the people that donated should absolutely get those new perks.

    Really good point here. Always my all time #2 band, but I think there's a point where it does get a little weird. Agreed about the 08' tour - Travis sounded fucking awesome and all the new stuff worked well with the old stuff. Now they seem like a full blown nostalgic act who tours in South America and doesn't make any more new Melon music. Thorn is pretty fucking active though - all over other people's stuff, producing, etc,.
    I imagine the singer knew what he was getting into, and have to assume he's okay with it, or else he'd quit. Let's face it. He was chosen because he sounds like Shannon Hoon. The band 100% feeds off of what the band was when Hoon was alive. The guy knows that.
    he did quit. then he came back.

    but at the time he was hired, they seemed to be moving forward. maybe the reason he left was because they wanted to capitalize on the Hoon years too much, who knows. they only play sporadic shows now, so it doesn't seem like they will be doing anything "new" per say, so the point is moot.

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited April 2015
    I would assume the band is somewhat involved as they've promoted it on their fb page. HOwever....it is Shannon's video diary to be used, no? Hard to say if any/much money from the film will go to them...the exposure, I'm sure, will benefit them regardless.
    As for their financial situations...don't know about the rest of them, but Rogers Stevens is now a corporate lawyer.

    Have you guys clicked the kickstarter page lately? There is a cover of Sleepyhouse by Jim James (MMJ), and Seth Avett (Avett Brothers) does St.Andrews Fall in support of the campaign :smile:
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Surely the remaining band members would chip in the rest. Weird they haven't come out and said whether they support this at all.

    and this is also assuming they have the money to give. one major hit single 20 years ago probably wouldn't pay the bills of 4 guys and the 5th guy's estate for very long.

    Yeah, I don't think the members of the current Blind Melon are rich. They earn a living, but that's probably about it..... Actually, I wonder if just the Blind Melon gig does even that. It's not like the current band is raking in the dough through album sales and shows, lol. Can they even sell out a bar??
    And royalties from S/T and Soup spread that thin couldn't be doing much for them at all. Probably just pennies at this point.
    I know a while back, when people were posting on their page to 'come to Kalamazoo' or whatever, they would reply by saying, 'book us a show! make it happen!'....last time they played in Calgary, it was at the Deerfoot casino, and not part of a tour. I'm guessing they probably charge a booking fee of about 10-15k per show and take a cut of the gate or whatever....Not sure if the calgary show sold out, but I think it was close. Still, they'd probably be hard pressed to do a tour of large bars and make much money at it....probably not worth being away from home that long at middle age, if they have families or anything else going on in their lives.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Drowned Out said:



    Have you guys clicked the kickstarter page lately? There is a cover of Sleepyhouse by Jim James (MMJ), and Seth Avett (Avett Brothers) does St.Andrews Fall in support of the campaign :smile:

    Sweet! Thanks for the tip!
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  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    jim james - sleepyhouse
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcw7_Cpzjgg

    brian fallon - mouthful of cavities
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZYtWE5k0o

    seth avett - st. andrews fall
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBiqFwi-yO8
  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Hmmmm....that didnt work.
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