Vitalogy Foundation eBay auctions going forward....

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    inflated market value helps sell more merch... and they know it... plus it is really to raise money for charity when all you have to do is hold back a few "limited" items, wait a few months, and put it up for auction

    Their merch is like their setlists now... easily accessible hits for the masses, and rarities for the die hards... hopefully keeping everyone happy
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,754
    Yeah, but raffles would bring a hundred times more money for the charity. If they had done a raffle at $5 per entry, open to all 10c members, for the PJ20 backpack (or Benny Hall, or soldier field, or any other album that hasn't been reissued), they would have probably made $20,000 for one item!
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

    eBay is just the most functional approach.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,754
    edited March 2015
    100 Pacer said:

    Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

    eBay is just the most functional approach.

    None of that matters. I don't see why the band or anyone else would care if an item stays with the buyer/winner or not. I'm talking about the difference between them getting $400 for charity vs getting $20,000 for charity with the same item. I think the better option is obvious, so I am surprised they don't do it. I don't see why the logistics of it would be difficult at all. It would simply involve taking donations and keeping a list of names. The Vitalogy Foundation is already set up to accept donations, so it shouldn't be any problem.
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,226
    100 Pacer said:

    Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

    eBay is just the most functional approach.

    Absolutely dead on
  • pdalowsky said:

    100 Pacer said:

    Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

    eBay is just the most functional approach.

    Absolutely dead on
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,761
    I wish there was a way 10club was auctioning off Pearl Jam items here @ the 10club website & not on eBay.

    What I mean is a dedicated page over @ http://pearljam.com/auctions .

    10club members could have a chance to bid on items with ease. If management doesn't want the public to show the names of 10club members bidding, make them invisible. But only the 10club will know the user names who are bidding.

    If they offer this service they would save a lot of money & make a lot of money if they offer this kind of service, IMO. You don't pay eBay service fee charges & PayPal service fee charges. 10club members who are interested that don't have eBay accounts or PayPal accounts can bid and pay at the end with a credit card.

    I don't know about you, but I really like this option if 10club offered this kind of service to their 10club members.


  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,226
    Think charities are exempt from fees D
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    pdalowsky said:

    Think charities are exempt from fees D

    Yeah -- any auctions set up with donations have whatever portion of ending value is donated refunded. So if you donate 50%, you get 50% of your fees back etc.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,761
    drsluggo said:

    pdalowsky said:

    Think charities are exempt from fees D

    Yeah -- any auctions set up with donations have whatever portion of ending value is donated refunded. So if you donate 50%, you get 50% of your fees back etc.
    Ah. So eBay doesn't make a single penny when you sell an item that's for charity. No charge when you upload photos of your items & there won't be any added PayPal transaction fees for both the seller & the buyer. That's great then. All non profit charitable organizations should just use eBay & PayPal's free service. You would be crazy not to take advantage of their free service.

    The only thing I don't like about the eBay auctions from the 10club is they add the Import charges which is estimated and based on current bid, on top of the high shipping cost. I'm sure if this same item was auctioned / sold @ http://pearljam.com/auctions .. there won't be an import charge and the shipment of that poster won't be $43.55 but $15.49 shipped to Canada.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    I prefer Ruffles over Raffles.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Herr's
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,754
    Miss Vicky's :)
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