PJ20 and Wrigley bootlegs

redm0squito22redm0squito22 Long Island, NY Posts: 7
I'm sure there is a good reason, but does anyone know why they are waiting so long to release the bootlegs from these amazing shows??? I was at all 3, and would LOVE to own them so I can hear all these AWESOME shows again!!!

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  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    never gonna happen....
  • dissident52dissident52 Omaha, NE Posts: 33
    To my knowledge, they've never said why. I'm hoping it's because they want to make those releases special since they're not just your typical boots.
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  • coco buttercoco butter Posts: 1,434
    There are some great bootleg DVD's available that have held me over just fine. I almost hope they don't release them now. Keep them special.
    Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that.
  • juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    Next Tuesday is what I heard!
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,604

    To my knowledge, they've never said why. I'm hoping it's because they want to make those releases special since they're not just your typical boots.

    I would say its partially this, and for PJ20 the number of special guests, etc may complicate things
  • jason_94jason_94 Toledo, OH Posts: 1,872
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    Mark Arm holding out for a higher royalty rate? i kid, i kid.
    C'mon PJ.. release the damn boots.... on vinyl of course.

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  • demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,332
    edited June 2014

    There are some great fan made Blu-rays available that have held me over just fine. I almost hope they don't release them now. Keep them special.

    True! But would be sweet to have a SBD audio release of these shows. Wish they could just release the show's digitally (MP3 & Flac) then release them physically on CD, like PJ's Gorge '05 & '06 shows. They first released Gorge '05 hours after the show online via MP3. And both Gorge '06 nights were released a few weeks later via MP3 & Flac. Then a year later? they released these 3 show's on silver CD's. I'm sure folks who would buy the digital files now won't mind to wait & purchase the CD when it's sold.
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  • treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,800
    I was @ PJ 20 but would love to have these boots as well i did get PJ 20 in a burned format on Cd but sound quality in not that good


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  • Beachman44Beachman44 Swedesboro, NJ Posts: 170
    Why not just release a statement of the plans for the PJ 20 Boots (and MIA). Let us know there is a plan to release in the future or not.
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  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,836
    The band was not rehearsed for the PJ20 shows. The performance was not even polished by PJ standards.

    Also, Wrigley was a disappointment for the band. Listen to Ed at the end of the show and you can tell he's bummed.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    Damn I thought night two at pj20 was polished and really awesome. Definitely ranks in the top ten pj shows I ve seen.
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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    the audience recordings of the PJ20 shows are better than most official bootlegs, so not even sure why it is still a big deal, I assume most people have heard the recordings, many shows with great audience recording end up with more polished sounds on the official bootlegs but many times you lose a lot of the crowd atmosphere and energy
  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    The Wrigley audience recordings are pretty good as well...
    I think I always end up listening to the one labeled "source 3" because it has a more balanced sound.
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  • hsohihsohi Posts: 1,033
    Don't forget about London Ontario 2013 which was actually a better show than Wrigley. Wrigley was cool because of the venu but the London set list was something else(and no delay) so release a boot or Bluray for London first.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,031
    edited February 2015

    the audience recordings of the PJ20 shows are better than most official bootlegs, so not even sure why it is still a big deal, I assume most people have heard the recordings, many shows with great audience recording end up with more polished sounds on the official bootlegs but many times you lose a lot of the crowd atmosphere and energy

    I prefer the soundboards all the time. I have never heard an audience recording that sounded more "polished" than a soundboard. Are there multiple sources of PJ 20 out there? Because the recording I have sounds like shit. The Wrigley one I have is decent.

    Please release these boots!!!!
  • Wrigley was a disappointment for the band. Listen to Ed at the end of the show and you can tell he's bummed.

    I've always assumed that this is why we don't have a DVD or boot of the Wrigley show, which is hard for me to imagine. I know they didn't get to play the set that they had planned but personally, I feel like the weather delay only makes the night more memorable. Not sure how many bands would have even bothered to come back out after that, let alone for them to deliver the way that they did. I also can't imagine that other bands' fans would have been so devoted to wait it out, especially after we drank, literally, all the beer left at Wrigley. My buddy and I managed to find one stand left with suds on the west end in the upper deck that was kind of hidden and double-fisted for a while, but that didn't last too long either.

    I truly hope we get a feature video of this show someday. It was such an incredible night. No crazy guests or anything. A setlist with deep cuts and jams the way that only PJ can deliver. Legendary venue. And a t-storm story that only attests to the two-way dedication between this special band and its fans. There's just no topping all that.
  • AND ERNIE!!
  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    AMEN Nelly :clap:
    It really was a SPECIAL event...
    I would love to have an official release from that GREAT weekend in Chicago!!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Wrigley was a disappointment for the band. Listen to Ed at the end of the show and you can tell he's bummed.

    I truly hope we get a feature video of this show someday. It was such an incredible night. No crazy guests or anything. A setlist with deep cuts and jams the way that only PJ can deliver. Legendary venue. And a t-storm story that only attests to the two-way dedication between this special band and its fans. There's just no topping all that.
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,379
    I loved Wrigley. I've seen better concerts but as an event it rocked! Even with the weather delay. So glad I made the drive out there from nj.
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  • YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    edited February 2015
    whoanelly,

    That was a fantastic review and excellent perspective on Wrigley. Thank you for that.

    Wrigley was indeed a very special night for many reasons listed above. Tough to top what happened that night. They still have so much audio and visual gathered from that show, that you know they're just waiting to release it all. Still blows my mind they haven't released ANYTHING from this show yet.

    And come on, ERNIE BANKS came out on stage to address the crowd and sing immediately after the rain delay. Ernie and Ed sharing the stage. For crying out loud!
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  • PorchgirlCOPorchgirlCO Colorado Posts: 1,375
    I agree, whoanelly. Phish was playing Northerly Island close to there that night and they didn't go back on....
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me...

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  • Eddie is a big fan of Bruce, right? Did you see Springsteen, just this month, released his New Year's Eve concert from 1975?

    He literally waited longer than some of my classmates' lives to release a show.

    Sad to say, I think we're in for a long wait on these boots. Why is the band waiting? I guess, for all we know, just because they can.
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  • SaravaSarava Naperville, IL Posts: 1,993

    the audience recordings of the PJ20 shows are better than most official bootlegs, so not even sure why it is still a big deal, I assume most people have heard the recordings, many shows with great audience recording end up with more polished sounds on the official bootlegs but many times you lose a lot of the crowd atmosphere and energy

    I prefer the soundboards all the time. I have never heard an audience recording that sounded more "polished" than a soundboard. Are there multiple sources of PJ 20 out there? Because the recording I have sounds like shit. The Wrigley one I have is decent.

    Please release these boots!!!!
    Not referring to the PJ20 or Wrigley shows. But the aud boot from the Moline show is better than the official boot IMO. The official boot loses the crowd's energy.
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,291
    I for one am tired of seeing threads for releasing the PJ20 and Wrigley shows. Its not going to happen.
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  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    edited February 2015
    Like all of Eddie's solo shows, maybe PJ20 was supposed to be more of an intimate affair for only those who were in attendance...just on a larger scale, of course.
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  • treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,800
    I think they will release PJ20/wrigley/London soon and also a DVD if this past 2014 tour starting in Cincinnati OHIO


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