Nice call Carroll.
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I dont believe he made the call and think he is taking the bullet for his coach -- no way to prove that but that is my read. I will always like The Pete even though I cannot stand the Seahawks and am glad they lost. If you knew what this guy did for people (not just football players) I think you would hate on him less.
Or maybe not...that is your prerogative.
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Glad the Pats won cuz I can't stand Pete the Cheat and Richard the Loudmouth, but I don't see why everyone is so quick to say "bad call." On 5 previous plays from the 1 during the season, Marshawn Lynch scored on only one of them. He ran for no gain on two, and lost yards on two others. The play was called knowing the Pats defense would be expecting run. If they catch it, touchdown. If it's incomplete, the clock stops, they can run a 3rd down play and then stop the clock with their final timeout to run a 4th down play if they don't make it. It's quite easy to understand the strategy.
Lynch could just have easily fumbled and lost the ball on 2nd down (or 3rd or 4th). Or the Pats could've simply stopped them on the next three plays. You can't just automatically assume Seattle wins the game if they hand it to Lynch instead of passing it on that play.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
I agree, the call seemed pretty bad. In post-game interviews they obviously weren't thinking it would get intercepted. The figured that had 3 downs. Their worse case scenario is that it would be come an incomplete pass and Lynch would have 2 more tried to get it into the endzone. They were still trying to wind down the last 30 seconds. I guess that's sort of understandable. I would expect the QB to throw a turnover. If the coverage is good throw the ball away. You've run some time off the clock and you have 2 more attempts.
On the other hand why wouldn't you play it safe? The decision to go for the TD before the half was a ballsy one, but worse case scenario was you didnt' get a field goal, but still had half a game to make it up. In this case if something when wrong with the throw (which they were struggling the whole game with) it's game over.
I still think they should of given it to lynch. I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
I agree. Too much thinking. Seahawks cost themselves the superbowl.0 -
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Everyone was expecting the run. If Wilson completes that pass, then he and Pete are heralded as madmen geniuses.Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
The pass on 2nd down was not a dumb idea. If it's an incomplete pass, it stops the clock and still gives you 2 more downs with Lynch. If you run it, and he falls short, then you have to burn another timeout and/or risk losing too much time off the clock.Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
The pass on 2nd down was not a dumb idea. If it's an incomplete pass, it stops the clock and still gives you 2 more downs with Lynch. If you run it, and he falls short, then you have to burn another timeout and/or risk losing too much time off the clock.
A high percentage pass, or one only the receiver can catch, like a fade, was not a bad idea. Or play action. Throwing to the middle of the field was questionable....got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0 -
Poor call...worse throw.
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pjsteelerfan wrote: »I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
The pass on 2nd down was not a dumb idea. If it's an incomplete pass, it stops the clock and still gives you 2 more downs with Lynch. If you run it, and he falls short, then you have to burn another timeout and/or risk losing too much time off the clock.
A high percentage pass, or one only the receiver can catch, like a fade, was not a bad idea. Or play action. Throwing to the middle of the field was questionable.
That up the middle slant pass is a high percentage pass.
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Lol. Lynch with an extra lineman is higher.0
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I want ricardo lockett to decide our fate. Hahaaah. Im so happy they lost. Pete is too because Kraft wrote him a big check.0
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Terrible call. It's all about limiting possible damage while trying for the win. It's easier to intercept a pass into the end zone than it is to strip/cause a fumble from a running back in that situation. Should have run it every down. You put the ball in the best player on your team (lynch) and you ride him to Super Bowl victory or loss. That's what he gets paid to do.
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HaHaHa... right on, man.
Russell should've bootlegged it.
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pjsteelerfan wrote: »I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
The pass on 2nd down was not a dumb idea. If it's an incomplete pass, it stops the clock and still gives you 2 more downs with Lynch. If you run it, and he falls short, then you have to burn another timeout and/or risk losing too much time off the clock.
A high percentage pass, or one only the receiver can catch, like a fade, was not a bad idea. Or play action. Throwing to the middle of the field was questionable.
That up the middle slant pass is a high percentage pass.
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Worst play call in Super Bowl history. Thread over.0
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True Steelers fans know what they are talking about !!pjsteelerfan wrote: »pjsteelerfan wrote: »I guess they might of been worried Lynch would of got the TD first try, leaving about 25 seconds on the clock for the Pats.
The pass on 2nd down was not a dumb idea. If it's an incomplete pass, it stops the clock and still gives you 2 more downs with Lynch. If you run it, and he falls short, then you have to burn another timeout and/or risk losing too much time off the clock.
A high percentage pass, or one only the receiver can catch, like a fade, was not a bad idea. Or play action. Throwing to the middle of the field was questionable.
That up the middle slant pass is a high percentage pass.
Not on the one yard line where everyone is jumbled together
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No, that would be the three consecutive out patterns from Kaepernick to Crabtree a couple years ago. That shit was ridiculous.Abe Froman wrote: »Worst play call in Super Bowl history. Thread over.
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I'm pretty upset. :-<
It also crossed my mind that he perhaps didn't make that call himself, like someone else said. He might just be falling on the sword.... The only reason I think that might be the case is that it was such a stupid call that I have trouble believing he could have actually made it.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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