BIlly Corgan talks shit on PJ on Howard Stern show..

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  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    vaggar99 said:

    Alright, I've bashed Billy pretty hard myself in a couple posts. I really did love the pumpkins in my high school and first part of my college years. Siamese and Mellon Collie were right up there with just about anything that PJ had put out at the time.

    My gut tells me that music came extremely naturally to Billy and he didn't have to work quite as hard as Eddie did to develop his abilities. This probably lead to him always feeling like other musicians were too slow to keep up with him. While he was probably right, he probably didn't realize that he still needed a consistent and 'good enough' supporting cast to ensure the longevity of his band.

    And honestly, I feel like Billy is probably way more talented than any single member of PJ. But we all know that the musical world is littered with uber talented musicians who never even get a song played on the radio. With Eddie and PJ, theres a certain magic that comes from hard work and of course Eddie's incredible singing voice.

    I think the OP was a bit unfair in taking Billy's comments out of context. If you actually hear what he has to say afterwards, you might think differently about him. He actually commends both PJ and Foo for their longevity. You almost get a sense of regret that he wasn't able to keep the Pumpkins together like PJ and Foo have.

    Thread Killer! :-q
  • Amongst the Ani
    Amongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    I'm wondering how many people that posted actually listened to the actual interview and didn't just read snipets or get their opinion of it from others peoples posts.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    The Waiting Trophy Man said:

    What's the bass player up to these days?

    Living on a farm and getting arrested.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    bootlegger10 said:

    What is wrong with you people? This should have been 2 page thread at most.

    Says the einstein who bumps it and makes it longer.

    =D>
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    cdysinge said:

    I'm wondering how many people that posted actually listened to the actual interview and didn't just read snipets or get their opinion of it from others peoples posts.

    Listening to the interview helps.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Oh yeah, and the greatest song of the 90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    and the foo fighters? they will kick your ass and laugh in your face.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ&list=TLrtRI1lkCtH4
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    the tiki bomb said:

    Oh yeah, and the greatest song of the 90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4

    That song marked the begining of the end to great music in 90's. Then we got Alanis, Third Eye Blind, Limp Bizkit, Smash Mouth etc. etc.
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
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  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    the tiki bomb said:

    joseph33 said:

    It all about the hair people. Billy is pissed he lost all his and Ed has a thick beautiful plush of hair. Last time i think Billy had hair was in that ice cream truck video.

    Wait...Billy and Ed aren't friends?

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    Hahaha..i dont think i was talking about Joel,Gibbons,Idol,or Jean.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    "I fear that I'm ORDINARY just like EVERY1"

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    The Juggler said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    To think pearl jam hasn't evolved is silly. LB doesn't sound like Binaural or Ten. They are a rock and roll band. Not a punk or pop act. They write good music that 1) satisfies them and 2) doesn't alienate their fan base. So in that respect, Billys opinion is wrong. What more could you ask for?

    Secondly, the main issue I had with corgans comments are that he puts himself in the same category with Kurt cobain. That's a joke. Sorry, but the smashing pumpkins had nothing to do with the "grunge" explosion of the early 90's. If they had never written a song, the 90's scene still would have survived. Melon Collie definitely added to the scene, but it wasn't what kept it going.

    Third, for those of you that think this is a silly debate or that it should have only lasted 2 pages, nobody is forcing you to read it. You are adding nothing to the debate by saying as such.

    I don't think Corgan said PJ hasn't evolved, did he? I thought he said that about the Foos.
    That was directed more at some here on the forums that are saying they haven't evolved.
    they really haven't much in the last decade or so. still put out pretty good music though.
    Well, the word evolve is wrong. They've just changed.
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  • cydonia
    cydonia Denbighshire, North Wales , UK Posts: 456
    Couldn't 't agree more with last-12-exit more really thoughtful and insightful comments. We can't put everything into words sometimes and the forums about sharing opinions. I loved Mellon collie, and believe in freedom of speech , no ones wrong no ones right, but if you've followed a band over twenty years it's hard to understand why popular musicians say certain things. I haven't heard the whole interview, so maybe I'm wrong to! But some comments were undeniably aimed at pearl jam and he was answering the questions, but as we say ....mind your manners!!!
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    the tiki bomb said:

    Oh yeah, and the greatest song of the 90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4

    Holy crap! I totally forgot that song existed! Isn't interesting how all of that music sounded almost identical?

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    paulonious said:

    the tiki bomb said:

    Oh yeah, and the greatest song of the 90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4

    Holy crap! I totally forgot that song existed! Isn't interesting how all of that music sounded almost identical?

    paulonious said:

    the tiki bomb said:

    Oh yeah, and the greatest song of the 90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4

    Holy crap! I totally forgot that song existed! Isn't interesting how all of that music sounded almost identical?

    Well since we are on bands that we forget existed.......
    http://evolutionrecords.ca/ten-seconds-over-tokyo.html
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I think 1979 is a great song, but I do not think it cracks the top 10 of the greatest songs of the 90's.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    paulonious said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    What is wrong with you people? This should have been 2 page thread at most.

    Says the einstein who bumps it and makes it longer.

    =D>
    Bump :)
  • jp307677
    jp307677 Boston Posts: 417
    This is coming from a guy who has not been relevant since 1996, literally. Who the hell is he to be critical of any band on Pearl Jam's level? He and his band couldn't even sell out a small arena today. This is a joke
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I think 1979 is a great song, but I do not think it cracks the top 10 of the greatest songs of the 90's.

    Neither do I. There were a lot of great songs in the 90s though.
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