Crowdfunded Pearl Jam! Yes!

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  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    bootlegger10 said:

    ckravitz said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    It is funny that the northeast goes a year without a show and they are resorting to crowdfunding.

    Because all 30 million of us are supporting it? How about the Seattle planned show by Wishlist?
    I was being sarcastic. Just a joke.
    I know, I am sure I am oversensitive about it, so apologies for that!! It's just that there is like a weird sentiment by some around here that Most/aLL East Coasters are spoiled brats.

    Knee jerk on my part.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,289
    edited November 2014
    ckravitz said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    ckravitz said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    It is funny that the northeast goes a year without a show and they are resorting to crowdfunding.

    Because all 30 million of us are supporting it? How about the Seattle planned show by Wishlist?
    I was being sarcastic. Just a joke.
    I know, I am sure I am oversensitive about it, so apologies for that!! It's just that there is like a weird sentiment by some around here that Most/aLL East Coasters are spoiled brats.

    Knee jerk on my part.
    No worries!
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm on the Debbie downer bandwagon. If it's going to be done, I would want to see it done for charity and be EXTREMELY expensive. 3,000$ per ticket, tickets sold in pairs. 3,000 tickets sold. Tenclub gets first priority.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ivegotcookies
    ivegotcookies Posts: 155
    Hi everyone Dan here. Just wanted to say thanks for everyone's support for and against this iniative . It has certaintly sparked great debate. I promise all that something good with happen from all of this. Stay tuned this week for more news. We are 100% in this and we are not giving up until we get a yay or nay from the band. Check out our current home on the web: https://pearljam25foresthills.tilt.com/bring-pearl-jam-to-forest-hills-tennis-stadium

    Thanks for listening and have a great weekend!
    " In New York as they say how the f*** ya doin'?" -Ed MSG 1 03

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ivegotcookies said:

    We are 100% in this and we are not giving up until we get a yay or nay from the band. Check out our current home on the web: https://pearljam25foresthills.tilt.com/bring-pearl-jam-to-forest-hills-tennis-stadium

    Thanks for listening and have a great weekend!

    Who is We?

    Have a great weekend too.
  • ivegotcookies
    ivegotcookies Posts: 155
    Stay tuned.
    " In New York as they say how the f*** ya doin'?" -Ed MSG 1 03

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,289
    ivegotcookies said:

    Stay tuned.

    Is your signature up to date? I was just curious as if it is, I think it strange that someone is crowdfunding a show for PJ who hasn't seen them in 3 years. Not judging. Just curious.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    badbrains said:

    ldent42 said:

    badbrains said:

    The question I have for wishlist members is, are they automatically getting tix while the rest of us have to go into a lottery? And why keep this shit private and now all of a sudden come forth with this? Because of the New York show?

    Some people come here and talk shit about one crowd sourcing show and are all up for one being held by wishlist? I don't trust anyone and think both sides are questionable. And what's with all this hippie let's all camp and get "grungy" at the gorge? Give me manhattan ANYDAY over some place I have to worry about where the fuck I'm gonna shit. Fuck that. I have $100 for a show at msg, make that happen and fuck both crowd sourcing shit.

    The venue they are suggesting is in Queens, not Manhattan. like 20-30 minutes from Penn if you get the express.

    I've actually looked around the GoFundMe site out of boredom to see some of the things people post on there - it's kind of amazing. I should really start one. My cat needs braces. (knocks on wood.)
    Oh I know where the place is in queens, drive past it all the time on the way to JFK. When I said give me manhattan ANYDAY, I was referring to msg. And that place is in manhattan cuz that's like my home away from home. (Used to have rangers season tix).

    See hedonist, I always watch out for us people who aren't to keen on this camping shit. I need a bed, a pillow, shower and shitter, possiblely a tv for when I'm trying to sleep. I don't want a rock for a pillow and a tree for a shitter.

    And it's 100% BULLSHIT if wishlist members ALL get tix while us common folks have to go into a lottery. This I CANT SEE THE BAND BEING COOL WITH. No fucken way. But then again, it is VERY odd I see people posting pics of the wishlist parties and same people end up on the rail. How is this even possible? Don't answer it, I already know who, what and how. "Don't you know who i am?" So fuck queens, fuck Seattle, let's have this shindig at msg for ANYONE who wants to attend.
    BB, I've never been camping :D Open to the experience, but the needs you mentioned are mine as well.

    (and cheers to yellow and shep! Same page here)
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  • ivegotcookies
    ivegotcookies Posts: 155
    bootlegger10 said:

    ivegotcookies said:

    Stay tuned.

    Is your signature up to date? I was just curious as if it is, I think it strange that someone is crowdfunding a show for PJ who hasn't seen them in 3 years. Not judging. Just curious.
    Not up to date but what would it matter? Less of a fan? BK1+2, Atlanta, Seattle, Hartford, Memphis....
    " In New York as they say how the f*** ya doin'?" -Ed MSG 1 03

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,289
    ivegotcookies said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    ivegotcookies said:

    Stay tuned.

    Is your signature up to date? I was just curious as if it is, I think it strange that someone is crowdfunding a show for PJ who hasn't seen them in 3 years. Not judging. Just curious.
    Not up to date but what would it matter? Less of a fan? BK1+2, Atlanta, Seattle, Hartford, Memphis....
    No, wouldn't be less of a fan. I assumed it wasn't up to date but just would have been curious why the sudden interest all of a sudden.
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    badbrains said:

    ldent42 said:

    badbrains said:

    The question I have for wishlist members is, are they automatically getting tix while the rest of us have to go into a lottery? And why keep this shit private and now all of a sudden come forth with this? Because of the New York show?

    Some people come here and talk shit about one crowd sourcing show and are all up for one being held by wishlist? I don't trust anyone and think both sides are questionable. And what's with all this hippie let's all camp and get "grungy" at the gorge? Give me manhattan ANYDAY over some place I have to worry about where the fuck I'm gonna shit. Fuck that. I have $100 for a show at msg, make that happen and fuck both crowd sourcing shit.

    The venue they are suggesting is in Queens, not Manhattan. like 20-30 minutes from Penn if you get the express.

    I've actually looked around the GoFundMe site out of boredom to see some of the things people post on there - it's kind of amazing. I should really start one. My cat needs braces. (knocks on wood.)
    Oh I know where the place is in queens, drive past it all the time on the way to JFK. When I said give me manhattan ANYDAY, I was referring to msg. And that place is in manhattan cuz that's like my home away from home. (Used to have rangers season tix).

    See hedonist, I always watch out for us people who aren't to keen on this camping shit. I need a bed, a pillow, shower and shitter, possiblely a tv for when I'm trying to sleep. I don't want a rock for a pillow and a tree for a shitter.

    And it's 100% BULLSHIT if wishlist members ALL get tix while us common folks have to go into a lottery. This I CANT SEE THE BAND BEING COOL WITH. No fucken way. But then again, it is VERY odd I see people posting pics of the wishlist parties and same people end up on the rail. How is this even possible? Don't answer it, I already know who, what and how. "Don't you know who i am?" So fuck queens, fuck Seattle, let's have this shindig at msg for ANYONE who wants to attend.
    BB, I've never been camping :D Open to the experience, but the needs you mentioned are mine as well.

    (and cheers to yellow and shep! Same page here)
    You haven't lived until you've pooped in the woods!
    MUST do camping!! Best experience ever next to a good live show! As for THIS live show?? I
    Honestly just DO NOT see this happening. Too many obstacles, too many variables, no professionals involved, just a whim and a whisp if hope. I looked up this venue.. I can't see this going over at all.. But.. I' seen this band do weirder things! Good luck!

    Now Hedo! Go camping!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Nope and nope to you and Mr. gambs! I'm past the point where my back would allow it and my wuss-ass self would tolerate it.

    I do love nature though. Just not taking care of that kind of business in the midst of it :D
  • Red Mosquito75
    Red Mosquito75 Moline IL Posts: 1,038
    edited November 2014
    This idea sounds intriguing but no offense a little weird.
    I would rather see them somewhere like the gorge.
    I like the idea of the band going in your and then seeing which shows I can make, which shows are odd events like Moline.
    Besides love of their fans why would the band need or want to do something like this.
    This is Not For You
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,289
    Red Mosquito75 said:

    This idea sounds intriguing but no offense a little weird.
    I would rather see them somewhere like the gorge.
    I like the idea of the band going in your and then seeing which shows I can make, which shows are odd events like Moline.
    Besides love of their fans why would the band need or want to do something like this.

    Yeah, another show in NY isn't that interesting to me. Been there, done that. Love any show but I am more interested in seeing new places.
  • Dead Man Walking
    Dead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    Don't get me wrong, I like this idea a lot. I thought it was really cool when the Foo fans originally did it. My question is if this does go over the tilt number of $100k, what happens to everyone who gets charged and the goal still isn't met? I remember reading somewhere that PJ costs in the Neighborhood of $750k (and that's if they even agree to play or are available).

    How can people trust that between the tilt number of $100k and the band's $750k the money will not be spent or kept? I've read in the past of kickstarters where people have raised money and then pissed it away and not delivering on the pledge agreements. Not that I'm an expert around here or anything but someone with only a handful of posts comes on here and starts collecting money from everyone for a pipe-dream concert raises a little concern for me.

    Maybe it's because I've been burned on line before but I'm just a little hesitant. Hopefully you can address some of my concerns and help me (and others) lean towards donating who are currently on the fringe.

    Thanks a lot for your time.
    -DMW
  • Foxy Mop
    Foxy Mop Posts: 2,823
    badbrains said:

    The question I have for wishlist members is, are they automatically getting tix while the rest of us have to go into a lottery? And why keep this shit private and now all of a sudden come forth with this? Because of the New York show?

    Some people come here and talk shit about one crowd sourcing show and are all up for one being held by wishlist? I don't trust anyone and think both sides are questionable. And what's with all this hippie let's all camp and get "grungy" at the gorge? Give me manhattan ANYDAY over some place I have to worry about where the fuck I'm gonna shit. Fuck that. I have $100 for a show at msg, make that happen and fuck both crowd sourcing shit.

    Wishlist hasn't announced the campaign yet because we're still working on the details. Here's the quote, originally from Facebook, explaining why I posted about our project.
    lazloblue said:

    This was posted over on FB::

    In light of recent events, I'm reposting this from our Wishlist Foundation Group for anyone interested.

    Back in early September, Wishlist Foundation began working on developing a fan-sourced (crowd-sourced) campaign to raise enough money to host a Pearl Jam concert weekend on or around October 22, 2015 at the infamous Gorge Amphitheater in Gorge, WA.

    Part 25th anniversary celebration, part thank you, part activism fan movement, Wishlist Foundation plans on rolling out this campaign between Christmas and New Years.

    Today another crowd-source event was announced to bring the band to Forest Hills, NY that will last the next 88 days. Wishlist was approached by the organizer to work together via PM, at which point I informed him of our existing plans, offered to work together/include him in ours and genuinely wished him well when he politely declined.

    Because our campaign will launch within the 88 days of the Forest Hills campaign, I thought it would be polite and in good community spirit to mention the Wishlist campaign in advance, as a preemptive attempt to dispel any potential negativity that Wishlist was trying to 'step on his toes or steal his thunder'. That isn't and won't be, our intent.

    We realize people are now interested in our campaign, but we're not ready to release any details more specific than I posted here. When we announce, we want to make sure we do it right - with facts, specific goals, specific ticket expectations, rewards, etc. We're not going to have our hand forced because someone else in our PJ community is borrowing the same awesome idea from the Foo Fighters fans.

    We LOVE the fan community. It is our family and has been for the last ten years. Myself, and all of us at Wishlist, genuinely believe that each and every fan can make a HUGE difference and a HUGE positive impact on the world, within our fan community and especially with each other.

    We've seen it happen. Witnessed your generosity and extraordinary efforts.

    Fan motivated and created events are how Wishlist started. We support lots of individual and smaller fan group related projects, causes and more. We've supported individuals and fans both publicly and quietly out of the public eye. I don't feel the need to list them - it's not about naming names to prove a point.

    We're grassroots. We're volunteers. We're fans. We wish everyone who is trying to do a good thing the best of luck. It's how we believe the world should be.

    "With my two hands, I can change the world"

    So we're working on the project, but it's not ready to be announced yet and hasn't been.
    PJ_Soul said:

    Of course all the Wishlist people and all their friends will automatically get tix. I'd say that's a given.

    It's not a given and that's not correct. Ticketing will be 100% fair across the board.

    It seems people are getting things confused too.

    Forest Hills Tilt crowdsource = announced = not Wishlist

    Gorge campaign = NOT announced = Wishlist


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  • Foxy Mop
    Foxy Mop Posts: 2,823
    shep said:

    so many things I want to say about this, but I'm going to refrain from an essay and just point out a couple of obvious things:

    Agree with many that this "crowdfunding" thing is BS. It's basically attempting to strong-arm the band into doing what you want them to do... If someone was attempting to do that to me, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.

    While I don't support this idea the wishlist has in principle, I'm very conflicted as I have been waiting for a weekend at the gorge forever... I really want to go, but I wish the wishlist would stay the fuck out of it.

    Sorry you feel this way, without even knowing any of the details other than the location and a vague date. Hopefully you'll reconsider when we announce the campaign. I
    shep said:

    I'm going to put this simply: if wishlist gets their way, the whole thing will turn into a debacle and playing favorites. Everyone close to them will likely wind up with the best seats, and other perks. Don't forget that while their intent is raising money for charity, they will take this opportunity to set themselves up for the best seats/views/whatever other perks they can get for their favorite band. the whole thing will turn into a popularity contest. (and I mean no ill will against the wishlist and their work - I applaud them for it - but you're a charity, not a concert promoter).

    I appreciate your opinion. I respectfully disagree completely. You have no idea what our campaign plans are or the mechanisms behind them, therefore you can't truly judge without the facts. I can guarantee you that no one in Wishlist Foundation will "take the opportunity to set themselves up for the best seats/views/whatever" That's not how we operate. If you've personally witnessed anything contrary to that, please shoot me a PM about it so I can look into it.
    shep said:

    Finally, I'm in favor of companies that are experts in an area organizing things (i.e. LN/TM) and not people attempting to fumble their way through it with no experience... say what you want about LN/TM, at they know what they're doing... if this gets organized by someone with no experience, get ready for a debacle.

    We are too, which is one of the many reasons why our plans are still in the works.
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  • Foxy Mop
    Foxy Mop Posts: 2,823
    pjsteelerfan said:

    Some things I don't get- why the Gorge at the end of October? Don't most amphitheaters in the north shut down in September? I know around me they are. You run a real risk of a show being played in the 30-40 degree area. And it does seem a little like forcing the band to celebrate 25 years. And forcing them to do it somewhere when they may have already had a plans for it. or when they maybe just wanted to relax next year. Also, why not do it in a more accessible area or venue? It also seems like people love to force Seattle or Washington state on them. Not meant to bash, just curious.

    Wishlist is 100% set on going for the Gorge, because...it's the freekin Gorge. Now if we were lucky enough that PJ liked our campaign idea but would want to see it play out at Red Rocks, I don't think any of us will be complaining :D

    The Wishlist campaign will have a slightly different slant than the Forest Hills one. The October date is one of a few that will be suggested, but obviously ANY date they want is what we all want too. We want to make it work and are trying to allow for flexibility as much as possible, though we all realize it's still a slim shot to even happen.

    Just a reminder - the Forest Hills crowdsource that is active now and is not a Wishlist thing.
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  • weddingparade
    weddingparade Posts: 1,179
    i heard that wishlist people get free backstage passes to many shows so their tickets are free
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, same people on the rail are the people at the preparties. How does this happen? Don't believe me, look at the pics of the preparties and look and see who's on the rail. Not hard, just look at peoples twitter pics. So I'm wondering, how does someone attend a preparty say till around 5/6 and then end up on the rail while some people have been waiting since 4AM? And I'm not the only one who's noticed either.
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