So I may not have a job after this tour.....

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  • Your boss sounds like your typical hollow shell and not a leader with conviction. Standard procedure when asked for time off at first is to avoid any discussions on details and take weak exit of saying "shouldn't be a problem". This is where your boss actually gave you a "I don't want to think about now or have to decide now" but for you, you have to make plans, buy tickets etc. when the time comes for you to prepare to go, boss realizes that he pretty much blew you off, did not take 5 minutes to figure out when originally asked, and now tells you that you have to suck it up due to his poor leadership skills. "Consequences" sounds like a veiled threat to me. Trust me when I tell you that you will be much better off in another environment with the chance to work for someone else. If you quit, do it before the show. Don't not go to the show, and then quit a week later due to the fact you've had it, and magnified by feelings of resentment such as "I missed Pearl Jam for this clown show" or something to that effect. If you depart, do it in writing, leave on good terms, with a clear understanding of your message and reason for leaving. Devoted 6 years, asked for time off, had what appeared to be a weak maybe, asked for a means to remedy it, and was offered a threat in return. My policy is, that when a member of my time asks me for time off, than it must be important to them to take the step of asking me, therefore it is incumbent on me as a leader to put the same amount of importance in the consideration. Your "boss" is a $hitty leader. Hang in there and follow your heart and confidence in yourself to land on your feet.

    Hope it helps.

    I want to work for you! Thanks for the advice, I am going to talk to my boss today to see if I can change his mind.

    Whether he does or he doesn't, I will be changing jobs in the near future :)

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  • you find another job... unless she has the last job available on earth

    I'm pretty sure that there are still a few jobs left on this planet :))

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  • You're single.
    You're young.
    Go to the shows and have fun.

    Then call your parents and tell them you are moving back in with them.

    :)>-
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  • You're single.
    You're young.
    Go to the shows and have fun.

    Then call your parents and tell them you are moving back in with them.

    :)>-

    Sounds like a solid plan to me :))

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  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,590
    Looks like your going, have fun!!!
  • rearviewschlem
    rearviewschlem Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 46
    edited October 2014
    Be honest, be passionate, explain that you have dedicated 6 years to the job, and that you feel your dedication to the job over the past 6 years should have built a relationship and rapport that would and should support your request. Nobody who has devoted 6 years should be shut down with a threat of consequences, as that is not how professional people with 6 years of interaction resolve issues. I would advise that you don't come across as you are willing to quit in order to see the show, but that you feel that the lack of understanding and desire to resolve issues or concerns professionally has caused you to consider wether or not the company's values (or dynamics) are in alignment with your own. Just my 2 cents. Let me know how it goes, and remember, cool, calm, and professional. Have your exit strategy planned out so as to not do anything you might regret later. i.e threaten to burn down the building like Milton in Office Space.

    I really hope it works out for you.
    Post edited by rearviewschlem on
  • As my boss says

    "few lives have been lost by not following proper safety plans, but many more lives have been lost by people simply not living them"

    Go have fun :)
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,919
    If the job pays good & they treat you good I'd say it's not worth loosing it for a concert but as it happens this is not just a concert but theee concert you want to attend so really it's just a matter of what you desire most .
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  • bobloblaw303
    bobloblaw303 Denver Posts: 85
    One can always find another job, especially if you are qualified, which she seems to be. Pearl Jam will not be around forever
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    I don't get you people. You would risk your job over a concert? I love pearl jam as much as the next guy, but if my boss said I would be fired if I missed that time, no way I'd go. I don't know what you do for a living, I can see if you worked at a hole in the wall fast food joint making $7/hr. But if it's a good job, why risk it? Everybody has/had an ass hole boss. Just a fact of life.

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I quit my job to go on the Euro tour and I don't regret in and I never will...money just doesn't mean much to some people.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    MayDay10 said:

    Not worth losing a job over, unless you were looking to get out and have something lined up that is nearly a sure thing.... Or you are independently wealthy and can afford to do whatever you want.

    Really. C'mon.

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  • yellowwho
    yellowwho Posts: 1,661
    Ya, that's kind of a tough situation your in. And while it would be pretty crappy to not have a job over this, I'm leaning more on the do what makes you happy side of the argument. Some might say that it's just some concerts but to you, it may be way more than that and if you think that you can handle the consequences, I'd say go for it.
    Sometimes you just have to take risk in life to really do things that make you happy, because like others have said above, you may never have the chance again. Living life in the present is probably one of the greatest things people should learn to do. I do agree though, to try and really have a serious talk with your boss and tell him Just how you feel and that this is really important to you.
    After all, he was aware of this way before so it wasn't like it was last minute and from What you said, it's not going to be putting a strain on anyone. So if he still don't want to budge after for no apparent reason other than just because he can say no, Maybe a Good bye is in order. But this could all just be a empty threat and hopefully after you talk to him again things will straighten out. If not, maybe it's time to look for something new. Good luck !
  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,301

    At this point in my life.
    If I told my wife I was going to the concerts and I didn't care if I lost my job.

    I would be divorced and homeless.


    Enjoy the shows!!!

    :)) that's a good one. At least I'm single so I only have one thing to worry about :P
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,469
    I've met some pretty interesting people who put their whole lives on pause to follow the band to every city. Not saying the OP is being irresponsible, but there is line one must draw for themselves when it comes to these things.
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  • You're single.
    You're young.
    Go to the shows and have fun.

    Then call your parents and tell them you are moving back in with them.

    :)>-

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    If the OP does indeed lose her job over the choice to attend concerts (I get the youth aspect and confidence in finding other work), would it be wrong of me to ask that unemployment benefits not be applied for?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    If the OP does indeed lose her job over the choice to attend concerts (I get the youth aspect and confidence in finding other work), would it be wrong of me to ask that unemployment benefits not be applied for?

    Under the rules as they exist she wouldn't qualify, but, sadly, that doesn't stop most people, and enforcement is weak.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    If the OP does indeed lose her job over the choice to attend concerts (I get the youth aspect and confidence in finding other work), would it be wrong of me to ask that unemployment benefits not be applied for?

    Under the rules as they exist she wouldn't qualify, but, sadly, that doesn't stop most people, and enforcement is weak.
    Ah, I thought it automatically kicks in upon being terminated (vs leaving of your own accord).

    They were pretty strict on guidelines when my husband was laid off last year!

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,368
    edited October 2014
    hedonist said:

    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    If the OP does indeed lose her job over the choice to attend concerts (I get the youth aspect and confidence in finding other work), would it be wrong of me to ask that unemployment benefits not be applied for?

    Under the rules as they exist she wouldn't qualify, but, sadly, that doesn't stop most people, and enforcement is weak.
    Ah, I thought it automatically kicks in upon being terminated (vs leaving of your own accord).

    They were pretty strict on guidelines when my husband was laid off last year!

    Great point. It doesn't sound like the OP is content to live on unemployment though.

    There are a lot of people who don't have jobs and can't find work, so I think some on this thread are being loose with the importance of a job.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on