A LETTER TO PJ FANS FROM STONE GOSSARD SUPPORT THE MOTHER OF MOTHER LOVE BONE

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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    not wanting to hijack this thread.... Stone/Jeff, good luck in getting this woman a better situation. Help as you want/will
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited September 2014
    mandm621 said:

    Wow the forum and the Official Pearl Jam Ten Club Members facebook page (which I don't think is really official, but fun!) Is like night and day about this cause. Kinda sad actually. Here everyones for helping, there they are asking why don't Jeff and Stone foot the bill. SMH.

    Lol. The guy leading that little rant is a fool. He thinks PJ's money is still his money because he spent it on them, haha.

    There is nothing wrong with what they're doing for this woman. There is nothing wrong with asking people to help a person. Ever. I can't believe it even crossed anyone's mind. And how many charities and causes to these guys donate to?? If they just foot the bill for every little cause they cared about they'd be broke. And if I donated to every cause I cared about I'd be homeless. It's great to spread it around - more people helping for a common cause is a positive thing. It's something that adds to the world on top of the monetary benefit. It brings people together as a community.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ, to be clear, I don't disagree with you. I didn't feel like I could comment on this without addressing the other side of my thoughts...it'd just feel disingenuous to me otherwise.
  • CompassionateSpirit
    CompassionateSpirit Posts: 230
    This is an interesting conversation. After thinking about what I've been thinking LOL, I feel like sort of an ass right now. I mean this woman is practically the mother of Pearl Jam and maybe we should all be her "kids" or her "fans."

    I think, as someone who does not make a lot of money, I was making an underhanded plea for PJ to lower their ticket prices (I know it's incredibly expensive to put on a tour these days) so I didn't have to choose between giving to charity and going to a PJ concert. Hee hee

    Jeff and Stone do have big hearts for doing this and maybe they are donating a large percentage to this. Good luck to them and Toni Wood. It's still very conflicting when one can't really relate to another person's life because our economic situations are so vastly different. But PJ Soul is right in saying it's never wrong to ask people to help another person. And again, they are inviting us into their lives for this and maybe we should be glad that we were asked and included - we are one big family (or Jamily).

    And yeah to Hedonist for not doing Facebook. I rarely do. Most of it is white noise to me.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Remember that old Twilight Zone with the kids who swam through the bottom of their swimming pool and ended up at Aunt Tee's?

    I see Ms. Wood as Aunt Tee (hopefully that makes sense).

    Also, my comments take not one iota away from the kindness demonstrated by these efforts.

    My husband and I donate to various charities, people and causes. Tossing a thought or two out there doesn't make me feel anything like an ass - I know I have a good heart and live accordingly.

    Now, as for the lowering of ticket prices? That's where we diverge! In terms of, that didn't even come into play for me.

    In the end, give if we can. Not for karma's sake but for our neighbor's sake.

    OK...last tangent - I've been listening / watching the Playing for Change series. Gimme Shelter comes up (really nice, grooving version), preceded by:

    "It is in the shelter of each other that the people live."

    Yup.
  • CompassionateSpirit
    CompassionateSpirit Posts: 230
    Sorry didn't see that Twilight Zone. I know the lowering of ticket prices is for an entirely different thread. I just mean that it's another conflict within myself - do I go see PJ in concert or do I give to a charity? Since doing both is not an option for me - I so wish it was. And with lower ticket prices, everybody could do a lot more with their money without having to choose. It just gets to be too much when PJ goes on tour at $80 a ticket, and then they put up some limited edition item for sale, and then they release something else, and then Bridge School lineup is announced, and then they ask for financial help for someone. But everyone makes their choices - I just hate feeling guilty when I go see PJ cause my money doesn't go anywhere else it seems. If they had asked for help for Toni way back before they announced a tour, etc. I wouldn't feel so conflicted about it probably. It's just overload sometimes. Also, if I can't afford to give to a charity I care about, I'll volunteer, but I don't see how I could volunteer for Toni Wood.
    ...And he who forgets will be destined to remember.

    ...I swear I never took it for granted. Just thought of it now.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I completely get what you're saying! Maybe look at it in a way that what you ARE paying, a portion goes towards what you didn't give directly to. And you have the experience as well.

    Maybe it's rationalizing, I don't know.

    You're right though - we do make our choices, and unless intentionally slighting someone else, no need to feel guilt.
  • CompassionateSpirit
    CompassionateSpirit Posts: 230
    Thanks hedonist. You aren't a psychotherapist are you? Anyway, I wish Toni Wood the best. I've been thinking that her life hasn't been so easy - losing a son and all the emotions that come with that - for the rest of her life.
    ...And he who forgets will be destined to remember.

    ...I swear I never took it for granted. Just thought of it now.
  • elwayvedder
    elwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,172
    3/5 of the way there...bump for mama
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    I can understand views from both sides. I think the reason is that this isn't really so much a charity (raise money for a school, health research, homeless, etc...) but it is a very personal acquaintance of the band. It would be like me asking for money for my grandmother's surgery when I have plenty of money to pay for it. You take care of your own. I have no problem though with raising money the way they are doing.
  • alexross42
    alexross42 Posts: 377
    edited September 2014
    According to the Andrew Wood FB page, there's a Mother Love Bone re-issue due in October, with 2 previously unreleased tracks included. I've no idea what amount of units would shift, but surely some of the revenue generated from this would find it's way to Andrew Wood's estate, i.e. to Toni?
    At least there's another possible 'new' income source to help her out.
    While they're at it, why not officially release some of the many demos that have been circulating for years, maybe clean them up and sequence them properly? I'm sure Andy would have no issue with that if it was ultimately going to help his Mum.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    Day left to bid on .. 2012 PEARL JAM BAND AUTOGRAPHED STOCKHOLM POSTER http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-PEARL-JAM-BAND-AUTOGRAPHED-STOCKHOLM-POSTER-/251648960876?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9772696c
  • nycrats
    nycrats Posts: 1,355
    Good for those guys helping out a friend.
    I feel like us fans are always looking for ways to thank them and im sure they'd rather someone donate 10 or 20 bucks or whatever than buy another hoodie, poster, wristband etc.

    Now Jeff and Stone- I don't need an autographed poster, so I'm not gonna be the guy to bid on those, but what's the amount the forum needs to donate to get a dirty frank this tour ;) ?
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  • elwayvedder
    elwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,172
    rumor has it there may be some items from fans going up on ebay to help out...fingers crossed. stay tuned
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    3 hours left!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-PEARL-JAM-BAND-AUTOGRAPHED-STOCKHOLM-POSTER-/251648960876?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9772696c
  • InThinAir
    InThinAir Posts: 81
    I don't get the sense that Stone or Jeff or the band are making any sort of real push here. To me it says that Stone and Jeff feel a connection to Andy and his Mom so they felt like they wanted to contribute to help her out. I think they also realize that there may be many people out in their community that have a connection to Andy and Motherlovebone and that they would want to give back because they've been impacted. If there are people that would feel good about giving back to a person or band that has impacted them that would not otherwise know without Stone putting it out there than that would be a missed opportunity on both sides if Stone didn't say anything.
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  • elwayvedder
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    demetrios said:

    3 hours left!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-PEARL-JAM-BAND-AUTOGRAPHED-STOCKHOLM-POSTER-/251648960876?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9772696c

    Kudos to the fan/collector that could make this amount happen!!

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  • elwayvedder
    elwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,172
    more signed posters by the band!
    http://www.ebay.com/sch/pearljam_tenclub/m.html?item=251657790876&hash=item3a97f9259c&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    cool!
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    elwayvedder said:

    more signed posters by the band!
    http://www.ebay.com/sch/pearljam_tenclub/m.html?item=251657790876&hash=item3a97f9259c&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

    Whoa!! Lots of new signed Pearl Jam posters!!

    Also the Canadian shipping on these prints are $30.87 US via UPS Standard To Canada.

    Very nice!! B-)

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