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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    haha. molehill/mountain/pjhawks. jesus, man. what accolades are you talking about? it's an article simply pointing out how differently these two teams are operating verses the other two teams in town. the fact that these two seem to be headed in the right direction while the other two are spinning their wheels further illustrates that contrast.

    with kelly--cool your jets dude. that mcclain piece provided a nice insight into how they run things there now. most people who are successful in life are detail oriented and are disciplined about doing things certain ways (maybe you did not know that). so when you're looking at a team that was as dysfunctional as a team can possibly be under andy reid, it's worth noting that every little detail such as where to walk/not walk is drilled into their heads. people probably thought lombardi was crazy for forcing his players to come to meetings and practices 15 minutes early too. but you gotta get 50+ guys to all buy into the same thing. makes sense.

    and again with hinkie--name me any team in the history of the nba who drafted their first two players knowing they would not play a minute for them in their first year (and on top of that-- year after doing the same thing with their first pick the previous year)? you can't. neither can i. hence the premise.


    good time to be a sixers and birds fan in this town. next few years should be fun.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,914
    I don't think the Sixers are going to be exciting for at least 2 and probably 3 or 4 years.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited July 2014
    pjhawks said:

    I don't think the Sixers are going to be exciting for at least 2 and probably 3 or 4 years.

    sure. but you're a guy who has admitted to not even watching them since the ai/larry brown days. those of us who've struggled over the last 15 years with them will have fun watching them grow. hell, i enjoyed watching the summer league games. haha
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  • eeriepadave
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  • The Juggler
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    this would be awful. i don't see how it can be enacted so quickly though with pending trades and such. 2016, i would be all for it though.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365

    this would be awful. i don't see how it can be enacted so quickly though with pending trades and such. 2016, i would be all for it though.
    Not just because of the Sixers but teams have made trades with and for protected lottery picks that would be affected.
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  • The Juggler
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    JK_Livin said:

    this would be awful. i don't see how it can be enacted so quickly though with pending trades and such. 2016, i would be all for it though.
    Not just because of the Sixers but teams have made trades with and for protected lottery picks that would be affected.
    right. gotta say though, i'm liking adam silver so far, especially if he can get the whole 2 year in college thing pushed through as well (again-obviously not for next year)
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Looks like the Love/Wiggins trade has been agreed upon with the Sixers getting some action as the third team. Rumor is Bennett, picks, and salary coming to Philly. Sixers send Thad Young to Minnesota. Beat it Thad!!

    I wish Hinkie could run all four philly teams
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    after all the lin rumors last month, i'm trying not to get my hopes up with this one, especially since there's a couple more weeks for things to change. bennett was absolute garbage last year but lost weight and looked better in summer league. also read he had his tonsils and adenoids removed to help with his breathing.

    young guy, still with upside. definitely would like him over dion waiters (another cav the sixers have been tied to recently).


    what a weird summer for wiggins though, huh? all that hype and then your pushed aside for one of the best players ever...only to possibly land in minnesota.
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  • The Fixer
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    def agree...prefer bennett to waiters.

    hopefully one of the picks they get will be one of the firsts cleveland inherited (not the cavs pick which will be at back of first round).

    after all they hype around the sixers guys in the summer league (mcrae, noel, mcdaniels, etc) and the tremendous draft and maneuvering (getting their first round pick back from orlando), this offseason is shaping up to be a huge success. It's going to be incredible watching this team grow and evolve over the next 3-5 years. Absolutely love it
  • The Juggler
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    from what I read it said picks were involved but didn't specifically say the sixers were receiving any in addition to bennett.

    sucks we have to wait till the 23rd for this to happen.
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  • The Fixer
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    from what I read it said picks were involved but didn't specifically say the sixers were receiving any in addition to bennett.

    sucks we have to wait till the 23rd for this to happen.

    It's Hinkie...of course they are getting picks. I read they were possibly taking the salaries of Martin and Barrea.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    ha...talk about timing. this was posted a half hour ago


    http://www.libertyballers.com/2014/8/5/5969641/sixers-cavaliers-timberwolves-kevin-love-anthony-bennett

    Three's Company: What The Sixers Could Get Out Of A Kevin Love Trade

    By Jake Pavorsky  @JakePavorsky on Aug 5 2014, 2:00p +

    "If you're not talking draft picks, what you saying to me?" - Sam Hinkie, probably.

    The Sixers offseason could be considered stagnant and monotonous, a transaction-less three months from the depths of hell. Every day that goes by without a move being made is one more day Brandon Davies is likely to make this team. We give Davies a lot of crap, maybe undeserved, but if he's on this team come the fall it will be an unforgivable offense.

    They've watched salary dumps for the likes of Jeremy Lin and Jarrett Jack pass them by, all attached with ever-so-valuable first round picks, prizes the Sixers have sought out in basically any trade they've tried to make over the past two seasons. There are certainly suitable reasons that Philadelphia has yet to partake in any of those deals, but the window of opportunity to get themselves involved in a big summer deal is closing really quickly.

    A Kevin Love blockbuster is seemingly the final potential trade for Sam Hinkie to get involved this summer, and luckily for our sanity, he seems poised to do just that. From Timberwolves reporter Charley Walters:

    Cleveland remains the strong bet for Love to join LeBron James. But the Wolves continue to listen to offers from Chicago and Golden State, with Philadelphia expected to be part of a three-team deal.

    So what could Philadelphia get out of all this?

    Sweet, Sweet Draft Picks

    If a team is negotiating a deal with the Sixers, they know what they're in for. They want your draft picks, they'll take your draft picks, your draft picks are gone. Your team just traded a 2016 first-rounder for the rights to a Yugoslavian center who apparently retired four seasons ago. Know this when you're dealing with Sam Hinkie: your future draft classes don't look as good after you're done with him.

    If they plan to get in on the Kevin Love action the Sixers are gonna have to probably take on a little added salary. It's not only nothing they can't handle, but for helping to facilitate Love to Cleveland they have a wide selection of firsts to chose from. The Cavaliers own both Miami and Memphis' top selections in 2015, both of which are appealing. Miami's pick, protected 1-10, probably falls somewhere in the early 20's this season, but the Grizzlies selection is the real belle of the ball.

    Protected 1-5 and 15-30 in both 2015 and 2016, Memphis retains the pick in 2017 only if it falls in the top 5. That has a genuine chance to be a low lottery pick, though harder to acquire. Minnesota has all their future first round picks in order and is probably gonna sit in the lottery for at least next season. There is no real rush for the pick to be in 2015, as the talent may not be as strong nor as deep as in the previous year's class. But getting a first-round pick regardless of where it comes from should have fans doing cartwheels, as the Sixers continue to make it clear they plan on stacking future assets.

    Anthony Bennett

    ESPN's Brian Windhorst linked Bennett to Philadelphia for the first time Monday, and T'Wolves reporter Darren Wolfson threw more gas on the fire that evening. After seeing his performance at Vegas Summer League, I can't really complain. He looked healthy and in shape for probably the first time in a long time, and his play showed that.

    Bennett ran the floor like a gazelle despite being built like a bull. It was hard not to be impressed. He was knocking down pull-up jump shots. He was slashing to the rim and throwing down hard. Point Bennett became a real thing at one point. Against the Sixers he brought the ball up, shook Nerlens Noel out of his shoes at the perimeter and almost brought the arena down with an earth shattering dunk had he not been fouled. This is the Anthony Bennett the Cleveland Cavaliers drafted first overall, and the Sixers need to get their hands on him if they can. Get the best players you can, worry about fit when you have to cross that bridge.

    Other Salary Relief

    Frankly, even the worst deals Cleveland and Minnesota have to offer are not as miserable as made out to be. Kevin Martin's remaining three years at $7 million a season is viewed as sort of an albatross, but I can think of worse guys to place next to Michael Carter-Williams. He has a smooth outside stroke, who can attack the rim and get to the line at a decently high rate. Hard to ask for much more, especially when two years down the road you can sell him off as a shooting specialist to a contender seeking an infusion off the bench and collecting a second rounder.

    Trading Dion Waiters could clear enough room for Cleveland, albeit unlikely. And despite the character issues, I'd take my chances on the hometown kid for two seasons. He's dropped a ton of weight, and maybe a change of surrounding, including a coach who will sit his ass damn quick for hoisting up awful shots, can do the trick. The Cavaliers also have point guard John Lucas III and power forward Erik Murphy, two guys on non-guaranteed deals who could be shipped to Philly if it helps Cleveland shed enough dough for Love.

    What Will The Sixers Give Up?

    The low cost of Thaddeus Young. Philadelphia has been attempting to facilitate his requests to be traded to a franchise a little more focused on winning, but have yet to find a deal worth their while. The real struggle has been the return; Philadelphia wants first round picks (surprise!), nobody has wanted to pay a premium for a decent player on a non-team friendly contract. But if Philadelphia can get a first rounder and a young player in Anthony Bennett in exchange for Young because they helped free up cap for Cleveland, they've hit the jackpot.

    Philadelphia genuinely seems down to be a key component of this power shifting three-team deal, and the return could make this slow offseason well worth it
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  • The Fixer
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    Yeah, hinkie is a monster. He's gonna make it worth his while.

    It's so nice to have a real GM running the show for a change!!
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532
    Unless Minny plans on turning around and packaging what they got from the Cleve then this was all a bunch of more bullshit.
  • The Juggler
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    Unless Minny plans on turning around and packaging what they got from the Cleve then this was all a bunch of more bullshit.

    yeah and i can't see why they would trade bennett for a vet who plans on opting out of his contract next summer anyway.

    hence me not getting my hopes up over this one. ha
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  • The Juggler
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    aaaand just like that thad for bennett is back on:

    http://www.libertyballers.com/2014/8/8/5982619/report-thaddeus-young-still-going-to-minnesota-anthony-bennett

    if you're the t wolves you make this trade thinking thad will stay with them. but if he was unhappy in a rebuild last year, I would think he would be just as unhappy with minny this year-- though, I guess they are banking on wiggins' huge upside to entice him that they are close to contending....

    hmmm
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  • The Juggler
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    figures the bennett thing was too good to be true. so the sixers get 2 pieces of garbage and miami's first rounder (protected 1-10) this year....so probably mid to late teens/early 20's. meh. i guess that is about what you'd expect for thad's expiring contract, i guess.

    twolves should be a fun, young bunch to watch

    http://www.libertyballers.com/2014/8/22/6055729/done-deal-thaddeus-young-traded-to-minnesota
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532

    figures the bennett thing was too good to be true. so the sixers get 2 pieces of garbage and miami's first rounder (protected 1-10) this year....so probably mid to late teens/early 20's. meh. i guess that is about what you'd expect for thad's expiring contract, i guess.

    twolves should be a fun, young bunch to watch

    http://www.libertyballers.com/2014/8/22/6055729/done-deal-thaddeus-young-traded-to-minnesota

    ....sounds a lot like the Sixers, sans Hinkie. Thad'll make them just good enough to be mediocre. Sounds pretty familar.

    ONWARD WITH THE TANK!