Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,619
    edited August 2014
    A map of currently ongoing conflicts around the world:
    http://www.conflictmap.org/map

    Too much war.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    backseatLover12 said:

    How about working or giving what you can for the greater good of humanitarianism?

    http://www.unrwa.org
    United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East

    http://www.anera.org
    Aid and Humanitarian Relief for Palestinian Refugees
    ANERA helps Palestinian families and poor communities in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon.

    http://secure.savethechildren.org
    Gaza Children in Crisis

    Nice to see this positive post by the way.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    JimmyV said:

    A map of currently ongoing conflicts around the world:
    http://www.conflictmap.org/map

    Too much war.

    Damn straight on that, my friend!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    dignin said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    How about working or giving what you can for the greater good of humanitarianism?

    http://www.unrwa.org
    United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East

    http://www.anera.org
    Aid and Humanitarian Relief for Palestinian Refugees
    ANERA helps Palestinian families and poor communities in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon.

    http://secure.savethechildren.org
    Gaza Children in Crisis

    Nice to see this positive post by the way.

    Yes! We often expect our country to send aid but we can do so as individuals. I'm a firm believer in tithing to support social and environmental causes. It's one of the ways we can do something positive rather than just gripe.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    brianlux said:

    is that because you are anti-peace?

    'anti-peace'? Really?

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    backseatLover12 said:

    So, how many people made it to Washington for the National March on the White House: End the Massacre in Gaza yesterday?

    Did you?

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PJ_Soul said:

    What are YOU doing for the people being slaughtered in Gaza?????? As far as I can tell, all you're doing is making people disengage from the topic on a rock band's message board.

    I've already answered that question, about half-a dozen times.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mickeyrat said:

    Byrnzie said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Byrnzie said:

    backseatLover12 said:

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    Unfortunately, no war has ever been stopped by ignorance, apathy and inaction.

    but this isnt war is it?
    What do you think?
    about what?
    I have lots of thoughts about lots of things. Some I may be wrong on others not so much.
    About what? About the question I asked you - Is it a war?

    Is it a war when one military machine - the fourth largest in the World - attacks a people with no army, no navy, no air-force, and no heavy weaponry, and which consists mostly of a defenseless civilian population? Is that a war?

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Eddie_Vedder said:


    we can’t let the sadness turn into apathy.

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Byrnzie said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    What are YOU doing for the people being slaughtered in Gaza?????? As far as I can tell, all you're doing is making people disengage from the topic on a rock band's message board.

    I've already answered that question, about half-a dozen times.

    I've read a lot of your posts on this subject for the better part of a month now, Byrnzie.

    I can honestly say I don't recall you mentioning what you were 'actively' doing for the people of Palestine. You may have said what it is you are doing- other than dominating PJ's forums on the subject- but whatever it might be... it's hardly so dignified that you can dismiss someone so rudely as you did to backseatlover a page back.

    That was seriously uncool. Not quite as uncool as the over-the-top-rapid-exchanges-of-memes-that-all-basically-said-the-same-thing... but still really uncool.


    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    is that because you are anti-peace?

    'anti-peace'? Really?

    No, Byrnzie, of course I don't believe you are anti-peace. But the personal attacks are, so I'm a bit confused by the incongruity.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited August 2014
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    it's hardly so dignified that you can dismiss someone so rudely as you did to backseatlover a page back.

    That was seriously uncool.

    I was simply going by her own statements, such as "We can't control what happens in the Middle East!", and "Let it go people!!"

    Or do those comments suggest to you that she's actively engaged in doing something? If so, then maybe I've entered Alice's Wonderland without realizing it.



  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited August 2014
    Do you want me to report you Byrnzie?

    Let's just say, I'm the bigger person because I can "let go" of your personal attacks.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Eddie_Vedder said:


    Currently, I’m full of hope. That hope springs from the multitudes of
    people that our band has been fortunate enough to play for night
    after night here in Europe. To see flags of so many different nations,
    and to have these huge crowds gathered peacefully and joyfully is
    the exact inspiration behind the words I felt the need to emphatically relay.
    When attempting to make a plea for more peace in the world at a rock concert,
    we are reflecting the feelings of all those we have come in contact with
    so we may all have a better understanding of each other.

    That’s not something I’m going to stop anytime soon. Call me naïve.
    I’d rather be naïve, heartfelt and hopeful than resigned to say
    nothing for fear of misinterpretation and retribution.

    The majority of humans on this planet are more consumed by the
    pursuit of love, health, family, food and shelter than any kind of war.

    War hurts. It hurts no matter which sides the bombs are falling on.

    With all the global achievements in modern technology,
    enhanced communication and information devices, cracking the
    human genome, land rovers on Mars etc., do we really have to
    resign ourselves to the devastating reality that conflict will be
    resolved with bombs, murder and acts of barbarism?

    We are such a remarkable species. Capable of creating beauty.
    Capable of awe-inspiring advancements. We must be capable of
    resolving conflicts without bloodshed.

    I don’t know how to reconcile the peaceful rainbow of flags we see
    each night at our concerts with the daily news of a dozen global
    conflicts and their horrific consequences. I don’t know how to
    process the feeling of guilt and complicity when I hear about the
    deaths of a civilian family from a U.S. drone strike. But I know that
    we can’t let the sadness turn into apathy. And I do know we are
    better off when we reach out to each other.

    “I hope someday you’ll join us,…”

    Won’t you listen to what the man said.

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Byrnzie said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    it's hardly so dignified that you can dismiss someone so rudely as you did to backseatlover a page back.

    That was seriously uncool.

    I was simply going by her own statements, such as "We can't control what happens in the Middle East!", and "Let it go people!!"

    Or do those comments suggest to you that she's actively engaged in doing something? If so, then maybe I've entered Alice's Wonderland without realizing it.



    To be honest, I never saw those comments. Regardless, win her over, Byrnzie. Stress the need to keep the dialogue running and look for the opportunity to gather her into the fold versus crapping all over her.

    You have been at this for a long time in these forums- clearly the flag carrier for the opponents of Israel in this matter. You have made a strong impact on many people (including me) with your contributions, but don't weaken that impact by letting your passion override your 'good manners' filter.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    backseatLover12 said:

    So, how many people made it to Washington for the National March on the White House: End the Massacre in Gaza yesterday?

    I was there. Were you?
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,395
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    it's hardly so dignified that you can dismiss someone so rudely as you did to backseatlover a page back.

    That was seriously uncool.

    I was simply going by her own statements, such as "We can't control what happens in the Middle East!", and "Let it go people!!"

    Or do those comments suggest to you that she's actively engaged in doing something? If so, then maybe I've entered Alice's Wonderland without realizing it.



    To be honest, I never saw those comments. Regardless, win her over, Byrnzie. Stress the need to keep the dialogue running and look for the opportunity to gather her into the fold versus crapping all over her.

    You have been at this for a long time in these forums- clearly the flag carrier for the opponents of Israel in this matter. You have made a strong impact on many people (including me) with your contributions, but don't weaken that impact by letting your passion override your 'good manners' filter.
    ^this is so true. I understand your passion on the matter and you have provided a ton of great information but please don't weaken your impact by being dismissive of others who clearly want peace.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited August 2014
    backseatLover12 said:

    Do you want me to report you Byrnzie?

    I honestly couldn't give a shit.

    backseatLover12 said:

    Let's just say, I'm the bigger person because I can "let go" of your personal attacks.

    Doesn't sound to me like you've let go. Sounds to me like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. Maybe you need to read some more Mother Theresa?




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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    To be honest, I never saw those comments. Regardless, win her over, Byrnzie. Stress the need to keep the dialogue running and look for the opportunity to gather her into the fold versus crapping all over her.

    You have been at this for a long time in these forums- clearly the flag carrier for the opponents of Israel in this matter. You have made a strong impact on many people (including me) with your contributions, but don't weaken that impact by letting your passion override your 'good manners' filter.

    Actually, if you read back through this thread you'll see that they began jumping all over me with their lame personal attacks before I finally replied in kind to them after a few pages of their crap.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited August 2014
    backseatLover12 said:



    Only someone full of hatred would have a problem with Mother Theresa.

    I actually just laughed out loud when I read this and caused the other people in my office to turn and see what I was laughing at. You're gonna get me in trouble if you carry on.

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