PAUL WELLER takes a stand against RSD flippers

Boxes&Books · April 2014

Completely Disagree with his decision, but to each his own. Maybe he should reach out to the organizers and ask them to only sell one item per customer. Think that would be more productive and helpful.

A lot of the flippers are the record stores themselves. Can't blame.

Amongst the Ani · April 2014

Another idea would be to do what Cake has done. Release a portion at RSD (or whenever they decide to) with an added note more will be available in the near future through their website or in stores again. Prices wouldn't jump right off the bat as bad as people would know more is coming. Cake was going for more than $400 on ebay on RSD. Since the announcement was made it went down now to less than $300. I only imagine it is still that high with people not knowing more are coming and a second chance is available. Same with Coke 10 if it was done that way. Now after the second sale prices will probably sky rocket again but at least it will slow down the flippers from making max profit.

tempo_n_groove · April 2014

Why is everyone arguing about Paul Weller? He should be happy that 500 people bought his record...

PJ_Soul · April 2014

tempo_n_groove said:
Why is everyone arguing about Paul Weller? He should be happy that 500 people bought his record...

I actually don't even know who the fuck Paul Weller is, lol.

Of course, that isn't really the point.

juddboz80 · April 2014

I don't think you will ever stop flipping no matter what system they use, as long as there is a high demand for the low number limited releases there will be flippers. They are scum but what can you do??
I bought the ed ved lbc from a store that charged $35 for a $6 record.....same guy charged $300 for the phish boxset of the same year.....I'll never give him another dime of my money! Just like many! I wouldn't mind the record store owners a lil profit but no way would I go for eBay prices!

FR181798 · April 2014

Dont know what the answer is but this year I opted out of RSD. After 6 years I had enough. Overpriced, and many pointless reissues and imo not a very enjoyable way to buy records. I was interested in 4 items and managed to buy 3 before the day for very close to what honourable record shops would be selling them for. I went into my local shop later in the day and the few titles they had left were way overpriced. £15 for a 7inch !!! I find black friday much better, more sensible prices and you can order in what you want.

WhatYouTaughtMe · April 2014

tempo_n_groove said:
Why is everyone arguing about Paul Weller? He should be happy that 500 people bought his record...

Just made me shoot soda out my nose, onto my phone! FT- very sticky samsung galaxy 4 ISO- Paul Weller's rsd release. (Will consider combo trade if belly button lint or magic the gathering cards are involved)

foodshop65 · April 2014

RSD has become a joke.

jervin007 · April 2014

foodshop65 said:
RSD has become a joke.

I always have a great time on RSD. Usually meet great people in line, shoot the shit, and grab a few records. Don't ever get everything I want but oh well.

I actually thinks it's funny how much efforts the resellers have to put in to make a few bucks. After waiting in line for hours, braving the crowds, eBay fees, PayPal fees, etc they can't be coming away with that much.

I saw plenty of people walking out of my record store with smiles on their faces. Not everything goes to flippers

spnoone · April 2014

RSD/weller's assertion that only 350 copies of his single were printed, based on my having seen 12 in rochester, is horseshit. claim it's limited when it isn't, so people who wouldn't have otherwise bought it, will. he's encouraging flipping, no matter what his press release says. same as vedder only printing "1500" love boat captain singles, then magically still having an endless supply to sell on the next 4 tours.

given2fly23 · April 2014

RSD Organizers:

"We share Paul Weller's frustration at evidence that 'Brand New Toy' has been offered for sale on eBay, and we are disappointed that despite our best efforts to drive out the touts, once again some people are seeking to exploit the goodwill of artists and labels by selling RSD exclusives at vastly-inflated prices on eBay," the post reads.

"At just 500 copies Paul Weller's 'Brand New Toy' was one of the most limited editions available on RSD and so some re-selling was expected. However, thanks to the measures we have taken on re-sales, overall the number of complaints about unauthorised sales this year is well down on previous years, though we continue to monitor eBay on an hour-by-hour basis.??We clearly cannot control the activities of members of the public, but the Record Store Day Code of Conduct makes it clear that any store found to be complicit in unauthorised sales on eBay faces being banned from future events.

Record Store Day would not exist without the support and commitment of artists and labels and we take our responsibility to them very seriously."

GratefulJam · April 2014

I think about the analogy of baseball card business all the time. I was quite young but i remmeber to this day when everyone was climbing over each other to get Dwight Gooden and Clemens rookie cards for hundreds of dollars, now they are basically worthless.

I older card delaer once told me "who is going to buy them" and i always remember that one.

given2fly23 said:

jm257212 said:
Imo. The only way to stop it is for consumers to not by it..to be patient. Do u really need in immediately?
That's a big part of it. The poster/vinyl craze has gotten out of hand, adults behaving like children at christmas. It reminds me of how resellers ruined baseball cards when I was young.

Papaljuice · April 2014

I am not a fan of all this flipping at high cost by either the seller or fans but that happens with collectible limited edition stuff. See the Coke Ten as an example.

I am also not a fan of the record store selling these limited items at a mega profit. That is not what RSD is all about.

I did a little research on Ebay of the one RSD item I wanted the most, which was the sales of the R.E.M. Unplugged.

My store didn't get any and I remember getting nauseous while waiting in line for other stuff at the cost this album was demanding on Ebay. Thanks to an honest 10c member, I was able to get one at the regular cost and it's on its way.

What needs to happen is for record companies to audit the stores on Ebay that are getting these 5-9 copies of a product and are selling them for an astronomical amount of money and blackball them. It won't happen but it would be nice.

Here is my research on the R.E.M. Ebay sales for the top 4 sellers.

R.E.M Unplugged LP Ebay Sales

iriomote11
9 sold
Average sell price $228.32

upperstateacquisitions
6 sold
Average sell price $255.79

shoeskate05
6 sold
Average sell price $264.99

tracksofthepast
5 sold
Average sell price $230.80

jamburger · April 2014

Papaljuice said:

shoeskate05
6 sold
Average sell price $264.99

Reported to RSD folk when he posted a photo of 7 physical copies in their possession already selling on Thursday evening. Shipping from Hungary no less.

JK_Livin · April 2014

PJ_Soul said:

tempo_n_groove said:
Why is everyone arguing about Paul Weller? He should be happy that 500 people bought his record...
I actually don't even know who the fuck Paul Weller is, lol.

Of course, that isn't really the point.

Isn't he the original Robocop?

PAUL WELLER takes a stand against RSD flippers

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