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  • cutz
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    Suspicous Bags Found At Boston Marathon Finish Line After Solemn Tributes
    Man Arrested; Facebook Account Says He Once Lived In NYC
    April 15, 2014 11:11 PM


    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/15/tributes-moment-of-silence-planned-to-mark-anniversary-of-boston-marathon-bombings/


    BOSTON (CBSNewYork/AP) — Police in Boston detonated two unattended backpacks at the marathon finish line and arrested a man Tuesday night, on the one-year anniversary of the bombings that left three people dead and 260 injured during the marathon.
    The Facebook page for the man arrested indicates that he previously lived in New York.
    As CBS 2’s Don Champion reported, the area near the marathon finish line was evacuated Tuesday evening after the two unattended backpacks were found.
    WBZ-TV, Boston reported at least one of the bags was being carried by a barefoot man who was wearing a long black veil and screaming “Boston Strong.” That man has been identified as Kayvon Edson, 25, and he has been charged with disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, and possession of a hoax device.
    Edson’s Facebook page said he has a New York connection. The social media account says he studied at the Fashion Institute of Technology in Manhattan, and also lived in Brooklyn for several years.
    A source told WBZ-TV that when Edson was stopped by police, he told them he had a rice cooker in his bag, prompting the Bomb Squad was called to the scene. The bombs that detonated at the marathon a year ago were made using pressure cookers.
    A source told CBS News that the rice cooker in the bag was full of confetti.
    The other bag contained camera equipment. It was not immediately learned whether police believe Edson or someone else left that bag.
    In a video posted online last year, Edson appears wearing a similar black outfit. His Facebook page also prominently features bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev – and even uses the Tsarnaev’s image for Edson’s profile page cover photo.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    BinFrog said:

    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    rgambs said:

    does anybody else think that marathon running is just lame? Stumbling forward for 27 miles just fails to impress. Do it once in your life and I will be damn proud of you, do it more than once, you need a new hobby! And while I am wearing my hater cap, I would like to point out that marathon runners are not actually in shape. Ever seen a runner try to do P90X? It's like they are starting from couch potato status from what I have seen. Guys and gals who will shuffle for 10 miles but can't do 10 pushups lol
    everything in moderation i say! With the exception of PJ

    Really? In this thread? Maybe AET would be a more appropriate place to air your disdain, instead of a thread of such gravity, among other things.

    Me, I admire the endurance, strength and discipline running takes - let alone marathon running.

    Anyway - to JimmyV, I've seen some incredible people / stories rise from and through this. Really beautiful and humbling, what people can heal from.

    My thoughts are with your city today.
    absolutely true. That negativity is off the rails. Cant play well with others = timeout corner. I should retreat to the woody silence that suits me for ahwile.

    Sorry, you just don't get it.
    I think he got it. I took this post as a person apologizing.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Just a beautiful day in Boston yesterday. The kind of day you hate to see come to an end.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Go Meb! Our local news is all over this guy :)
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    The trial is underway here and the testimony has been gut wrenching and heartbreaking. The details of what the victims and their families went through that day are haunting.

    Two things that stand out to me:

    One, the defense began their opening statement by admitting the Tsarnaev brothers did it. Their angle is that poor little Dzokhar was forced into it by his evil brother, but they are not arguing that he has been wrongly accused. Given all the false-flag talk we heard I think that admission is huge.

    Two, video footage shows that Dzokhar stood behind the Richard family for FOUR MINUTES before setting his backpack down and walking away. Four minutes when he could see the faces of those who were about to become his victims. Four minutes when he could have had second thoughts, walked away, and disposed of his bomb in the alley that runs between Boylston and Newbury Streets. Four minutes when he instead decided "Yeah, this is the perfect spot."

    There is no real question of guilt, only whether his punishment should be life or death. I am pro-death penalty in certain situations and this qualifies...but I'm conflicted. I do think if this guy is executed he will become a martyr to the misguided. I don't know if life in prison is a better punishment here, and I don't envy the jury tasked with making that determination at all.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    JimmyV said:

    The trial is underway here and the testimony has been gut wrenching and heartbreaking. The details of what the victims and their families went through that day are haunting.

    Two things that stand out to me:

    One, the defense began their opening statement by admitting the Tsarnaev brothers did it. Their angle is that poor little Dzokhar was forced into it by his evil brother, but they are not arguing that he has been wrongly accused. Given all the false-flag talk we heard I think that admission is huge.

    Two, video footage shows that Dzokhar stood behind the Richard family for FOUR MINUTES before setting his backpack down and walking away. Four minutes when he could see the faces of those who were about to become his victims. Four minutes when he could have had second thoughts, walked away, and disposed of his bomb in the alley that runs between Boylston and Newbury Streets. Four minutes when he instead decided "Yeah, this is the perfect spot."

    There is no real question of guilt, only whether his punishment should be life or death. I am pro-death penalty in certain situations and this qualifies...but I'm conflicted. I do think if this guy is executed he will become a martyr to the misguided. I don't know if life in prison is a better punishment here, and I don't envy the jury tasked with making that determination at all.

    Just so long as life in prison is general population. Let the chips fall where they may from there.

    Good to see you on the boards by the way, J.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:


    Just so long as life in prison is general population. Let the chips fall where they may from there.

    Good to see you on the boards by the way, J.

    With you on all three points, Thirty.

    Oddly enough (or maybe not), yesterday I was listening to a news report that mentioned those minutes of...contemplation?... and also spoke to the testimony of the father of the little boy who died.

    I thought of Jimmy, how literally close to home this must be. I too am happy to see you back (though sorry for the reason).
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I agree with above but may I throw in extremely hard labor should also be added for his sentence.Or kill the dip shit.Im happy either way.This is a great example of a life not being worthy.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I agree that there is a risk of making him into a martyr by executing him. Solitary confinement with meals and showers in general population in a New England prison would avoid this risk and ensure a hard life of pain.
    Hard labor could provide a sense of meaning and accomplishment, whereas solitary confinement would force him to languish in a hellish way.
    I would add to the punishment no correspondence of any kind... No calls, no letters in, and no letters out.
    Rot and fester and lose his mind...
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    I agree that there is a risk of making him into a martyr by executing him. Solitary confinement with meals and showers in general population in a New England prison would avoid this risk and ensure a hard life of pain.
    Hard labor could provide a sense of meaning and accomplishment, whereas solitary confinement would force him to languish in a hellish way.
    I would add to the punishment no correspondence of any kind... No calls, no letters in, and no letters out.
    Rot and fester and lose his mind...

    That would work.
  • mickeyrat
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    He should be treated no differently than any other accused if convicted.
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    mickeyrat said:

    He should be treated no differently than any other accused if convicted.

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  • Last-12-Exit
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    mickeyrat said:

    He should be treated no differently than any other accused if convicted.

    Yes, by the prison guards. But if he is serving the rest of his life in a Massachusetts prison, he won't live much longer than Jeffrey Dahmer did.
  • mickeyrat
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    I get that. System needs to show no preferential treatment or deferential treatment. He is no different than any other person on trial except the rich.
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  • rgambs
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    mickeyrat said:

    I get that. System needs to show no preferential treatment or deferential treatment. He is no different than any other person on trial except the rich.

    The only difference I see lies in his terrorism... I don't think those with ties to gangs or terrorist orgs should get to comunicate with the outside, too much risk of conspiring in or inspiring more crimes.
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  • rr165892
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    Due to the Terrorism angle I believe he would be incarcerated in a federal prison not a state facilty.I may be mistaken,but he will prob end up in a super max in CO
  • rgambs
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    rr165892 said:

    Due to the Terrorism angle I believe he would be incarcerated in a federal prison not a state facilty.I may be mistaken,but he will prob end up in a super max in CO

    That's pretty likely. He will probably end up in solitary for most of his life. For those who aren't familiar with solitary confinement, it is a fate far worse than death.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    Due to the Terrorism angle I believe he would be incarcerated in a federal prison not a state facilty.I may be mistaken,but he will prob end up in a super max in CO

    That's pretty likely. He will probably end up in solitary for most of his life. For those who aren't familiar with solitary confinement, it is a fate far worse than death.
    Only if forced to endure 23 hrs a day of loud Justin Beiber music.
  • muskydan
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    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    Due to the Terrorism angle I believe he would be incarcerated in a federal prison not a state facilty.I may be mistaken,but he will prob end up in a super max in CO

    That's pretty likely. He will probably end up in solitary for most of his life. For those who aren't familiar with solitary confinement, it is a fate far worse than death.
    Only if forced to endure 23 hrs a day of loud Justin Beiber music.
    Nice one, I second that!!!
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    Due to the Terrorism angle I believe he would be incarcerated in a federal prison not a state facilty.I may be mistaken,but he will prob end up in a super max in CO

    That's pretty likely. He will probably end up in solitary for most of his life. For those who aren't familiar with solitary confinement, it is a fate far worse than death.
    Which is a proper punishment.

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