Boston Marathon - explosion

JimmyV

If he had shown remorse he just might have escaped the death penalty. Had he turned himself in, perhaps. Had he turned his brother in, almost certainly. Most importantly...had he shown remorse and/or better judgment BEFORE carrying out multiple murder then he certainly wouldn't be facing the death penalty. This tragedy would have never happened. That is not the path he chose.

I do think we give this murderer far too much credit when we accept at face value his "justifications". He was playing at terrorist, nothing more. American involvement in the Muslim world is a convenient excuse for two brothers who, at the end of the day, just wanted to kill people. If there was no American involvement in the Muslim world I'm not sure these two would have not found some other "justification".

Just because a caught murderer says "I did it because..." does not mean that murderer is also not a liar. And liars can lie to themselves just as easily as they can to other people.

Cosmo

Bronx Bombers said:

Cosmo said:

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Let him live amongst the animals in prison for the rest of his life... you know, the psycho lifers with their faces all tatted up with devils and skulls and swastikas.

He's never going to wind up in GA population, if he doesn't get put down like he deserves to for what he did than this is where he'll go and taxpayers will be on the hook for this worthless piece of shit for the next 50+ years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence

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It still sounds like a living hell to me. Sitting in that cell... hoping you never have contact with anyone because it sounds like there are some scary-ass sonsovbitches in there. Let the prick cry into his disgusting prision loaf for the rest of his life.

Pingfah

brianlux said:

Pingfah said:

brianlux said:

I also disagree with the death penalty and this is tough because to be against the death penalty, how do you make an exception? But maybe there really are exceptions to the rule.

If that's what you think, then you are not opposed to the death penalty.

How I feel or think and how I act are not always the same. Call that a character flaw- it wouldn't be my only one. Imagine that. No, at the end of the day, I'm still against the death penalty.

This isn't about how you act though, nobody is asking you to execute anybody, it's about belief and having the conviction of your beliefs.

If you oppose the death penalty, but will waive that belief for crimes that you find particularly egregious, then you don't actually oppose it at all, you just want only certain people to be eligible for it, which is exactly the same belief as everybody that openly supports the death penalty. The difference being that they are being honest about it.

chadwick

brianlux said:

I also disagree with the death penalty and this is tough because to be against the death penalty, how do you make an exception? But maybe there really are exceptions to the rule.

that's what one of my old co-drivers called me... chad-exception to the rule-wick

i resemble that remark

chadwick

the death penalty is a wonderful thing. the only problem is it might should be a tad bit swifter when the maniac scumbag is totally 100% guilty/caught red handed... pretty much immediate

rgambs

yes swifter executions would be a good idea, that way the local cops can Judge Dredd your ass when you're 100% guilty in their opinion
we have due process for a reason!!! if it applies to you it applies to all, we can't be indignant about NSA spying on phone records and then say execute the terrorist without a trial. this kind anti-terrorism fervor is exactly what keeps the war machine rolling in the middle east.
solitary confinement is a fate far worse than death, and if proven guilty that's what he deserves...total isolation 24/7 so that within a few years his mind is unstable and in a few more it's irrevocably broken .

rgambs

Idris you are correct the hypocrisy is astounding.. we have the balls to drop bombs and preemptively say, where this bomb hit any male beyond puberty and shy of death is a "combatant" not to mention the racist, nationalist hypocrisy of calling tsarnaev a terrorist and James Holmes a murderer... when you incite terror in public by creating death among random citizens it is terrorism... you might not be a politically advantageous terrorist but a terrorist nonetheless

chadwick

phone calls being bugged is being caught red handed in a rape/murder case when the prick is covered in blood & has a head collection in his cellar?

chadwick

or those two assholes who raped & killed & set fire to that dr's family...wife & two daughters all tortured. the petit family i believe. those creeps were caught leaving the joint laughing it up. they are felons & scumbags

chadwick

they should be throughly fucked with

JimmyV

I do agree that there is little if any difference between Tsarnaev and Holmes. However, I do disagree that racism is the reason many see a difference.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Bronx Bombers said:

brianlux said:

I also disagree with the death penalty and this is tough because to be against the death penalty, how do you make an exception? But maybe there really are exceptions to the rule.

The petit murders in ct is a perfect example both were caught at the scence there was no doubt about their guilt. Also saw this the other day absolutely fucking disgusting both should face death for what they did.

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1594744

The Petit case makes me furious.

And the story you linked is pretty damn awful as well.

Control-Alt-Delete the human race. We need a mulligan. There are new levels of low being established daily it seems. wtf happened?

brianlux

Pingfah said:

brianlux said:

Pingfah said:

brianlux said:

I also disagree with the death penalty and this is tough because to be against the death penalty, how do you make an exception? But maybe there really are exceptions to the rule.

If that's what you think, then you are not opposed to the death penalty.

How I feel or think and how I act are not always the same. Call that a character flaw- it wouldn't be my only one. Imagine that. No, at the end of the day, I'm still against the death penalty.

This isn't about how you act though, nobody is asking you to execute anybody, it's about belief and having the conviction of your beliefs.

If you oppose the death penalty, but will waive that belief for crimes that you find particularly egregious, then you don't actually oppose it at all, you just want only certain people to be eligible for it, which is exactly the same belief as everybody that openly supports the death penalty. The difference being that they are being honest about it.

Pingfah said:

brianlux said:

Pingfah said:

brianlux said:

I also disagree with the death penalty and this is tough because to be against the death penalty, how do you make an exception? But maybe there really are exceptions to the rule.

If that's what you think, then you are not opposed to the death penalty.

How I feel or think and how I act are not always the same. Call that a character flaw- it wouldn't be my only one. Imagine that. No, at the end of the day, I'm still against the death penalty.

This isn't about how you act though, nobody is asking you to execute anybody, it's about belief and having the conviction of your beliefs.

If you oppose the death penalty, but will waive that belief for crimes that you find particularly egregious, then you don't actually oppose it at all, you just want only certain people to be eligible for it, which is exactly the same belief as everybody that openly supports the death penalty. The difference being that they are being honest about it.

I'm not being dishonest. Don't call me that. I said at the end of the day I'm against the death penalty. Just because I might feel like someone might deserve the death penalty doesn't mean I'm in favor of it. Feeling are not the same as actions. I've always voted against the death penalty. Now can we move on? Thanks.

JimmyV

One year later...

Many friends will be back running next Monday and we will be back in the same spot to root them on.

Not sure it quite feels like a whole year has gone by.

rgambs

does anybody else think that marathon running is just lame? Stumbling forward for 27 miles just fails to impress. Do it once in your life and I will be damn proud of you, do it more than once, you need a new hobby! And while I am wearing my hater cap, I would like to point out that marathon runners are not actually in shape. Ever seen a runner try to do P90X? It's like they are starting from couch potato status from what I have seen. Guys and gals who will shuffle for 10 miles but can't do 10 pushups lol
everything in moderation i say! With the exception of PJ

hedonist

rgambs said:

does anybody else think that marathon running is just lame? Stumbling forward for 27 miles just fails to impress. Do it once in your life and I will be damn proud of you, do it more than once, you need a new hobby! And while I am wearing my hater cap, I would like to point out that marathon runners are not actually in shape. Ever seen a runner try to do P90X? It's like they are starting from couch potato status from what I have seen. Guys and gals who will shuffle for 10 miles but can't do 10 pushups lol
everything in moderation i say! With the exception of PJ

Really? In this thread? Maybe AET would be a more appropriate place to air your disdain, instead of a thread of such gravity, among other things.

Me, I admire the endurance, strength and discipline running takes - let alone marathon running.

Anyway - to JimmyV, I've seen some incredible people / stories rise from and through this. Really beautiful and humbling, what people can heal from.

My thoughts are with your city today.

rgambs

hedonist said:

rgambs said:

does anybody else think that marathon running is just lame? Stumbling forward for 27 miles just fails to impress. Do it once in your life and I will be damn proud of you, do it more than once, you need a new hobby! And while I am wearing my hater cap, I would like to point out that marathon runners are not actually in shape. Ever seen a runner try to do P90X? It's like they are starting from couch potato status from what I have seen. Guys and gals who will shuffle for 10 miles but can't do 10 pushups lol
everything in moderation i say! With the exception of PJ

Really? In this thread? Maybe AET would be a more appropriate place to air your disdain, instead of a thread of such gravity, among other things.

Me, I admire the endurance, strength and discipline running takes - let alone marathon running.

Anyway - to JimmyV, I've seen some incredible people / stories rise from and through this. Really beautiful and humbling, what people can heal from.

My thoughts are with your city today.

absolutely true. That negativity is off the rails. Cant play well with others = timeout corner. I should retreat to the woody silence that suits me for ahwile.

Last-12-Exit

I can't believe it's been a year already. I have enjoyed seeing the coverage on the news and Espn about the survivors and their journey back to that race.

BinFrog

rgambs said:

hedonist said:

rgambs said:

does anybody else think that marathon running is just lame? Stumbling forward for 27 miles just fails to impress. Do it once in your life and I will be damn proud of you, do it more than once, you need a new hobby! And while I am wearing my hater cap, I would like to point out that marathon runners are not actually in shape. Ever seen a runner try to do P90X? It's like they are starting from couch potato status from what I have seen. Guys and gals who will shuffle for 10 miles but can't do 10 pushups lol
everything in moderation i say! With the exception of PJ

Really? In this thread? Maybe AET would be a more appropriate place to air your disdain, instead of a thread of such gravity, among other things.

Me, I admire the endurance, strength and discipline running takes - let alone marathon running.

Anyway - to JimmyV, I've seen some incredible people / stories rise from and through this. Really beautiful and humbling, what people can heal from.

My thoughts are with your city today.

absolutely true. That negativity is off the rails. Cant play well with others = timeout corner. I should retreat to the woody silence that suits me for ahwile.

Sorry, you just don't get it.

cutz

Boston police destroy 2 backpacks at marathon site
Associated Press
21 minutes ago


http://news.yahoo.com/boston-police-destroy-2-backpacks-marathon-020406908.html

BOSTON (AP) — Police have blown up two unattended backpacks found near the Boston Marathon's finish line. They say they've taken a man into custody in connection with them.

Police spokesman Dave Estrada says the backpacks were discovered Tuesday evening, a year after two bombs in backpacks exploded at the end of the marathon and killed three people.

Police say the bomb squad detonated the two backpacks found Tuesday as a precaution.

Police have kept people away and tweeted asking people to avoid the area. Trains are bypassing the nearby Copley Square station.

Survivors, first responders and relatives of those killed in last year's Boston Marathon bombing marked the anniversary Tuesday with tributes. Former Mayor Thomas Menino (meh-NEE'-noh) spoke at the nearby Hynes Convention Center.