Chinese Tiger Farms

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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    BEIJING (AP) - Chinese state media say a zoo has been asked to apologise after a video of a tamed tiger being abused on its premises caused public condemnation.

    In the video, two uniformed men are shown slapping and shaking the head of a lethargic tiger and violently jumping on its back.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... c-20130507

    You can pretty much reference this quote on any story related to China and animals. :fp:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey


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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i'm not going to watch it
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    no more forever."
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    BEIJING (AP) - Chinese state media say a zoo has been asked to apologise after a video of a tamed tiger being abused on its premises caused public condemnation.

    In the video, two uniformed men are shown slapping and shaking the head of a lethargic tiger and violently jumping on its back.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... c-20130507

    You can pretty much reference this quote on any story related to China and animals. :fp:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey

    That right there is unreal, and people wonder why animals go bezerk then attack driven to this state of madness.

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  • KM228407
    KM228407 Posts: 56

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Was really hoping for a tiger snap show.

    Even that beaten down beast would easily work those 2 pricks.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    More than 10 tigers have been killed as "visual feasts" in China to entertain officials and rich business people, state media reported.

    Police in the port city of Zhanjiang, in the southern province of Guangdong, seized a freshly slaughtered tiger and multiple tiger products in a raid this month, said the Nanfang Daily, the mouthpiece of the provincial Communist Party.

    Local officials and prominent businesspeople gathered to watch the tigers being killed as "eye-openers" to show off their social stature, it said. Video footage of a killing two years ago showed the tiger, kept in an iron cage, having an electrified iron mass prodded into its mouth with a wooden stick and passing out after being electrocuted for more than 10 seconds, the paper said.

    An experienced cattle or pig slaughterer is normally hired to butcher the carcass, it said, adding that tiger bones sold for an average of 14,000 yuan (£1,360) a kilo while the meat fetched 1,000 yuan a kilo.

    Police said a butcher – who jumped to his death while trying to escape arrest in a raid – had killed more than 10 animals, the report on Wednesday added. "The tigers were probably anaesthetised for transport. But buyers would check them to make sure that they were alive before the killing," it quoted an unnamed source as saying.

    Most buyers of the meat and bones were business owners who would then give them to officials as gifts, the paper said.

    Tiger bones have long been an ingredient of traditional Chinese medicine, for a supposed capacity to strengthen the human body. While they have been removed from official ingredient lists, there is still deman.

    Decades of trafficking and habitat destruction have cut tiger numbers from 100,000 a century ago to about 3,000, according to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature's Red List of threatened species.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/27/tigers-killed-entertainment-guangdong-businessmen

    Fucking savages

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey

  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,022
    edited March 2014
    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    Didn't read the whole thread.... kind of shocked that anyone called the Chinese a subspecies, as though the way they treat animals is caused by something in their genes. China's CULTURE is horribly flawed in some ways - they way they view animals, the way they think of money, and the value they seem to place on human life outside of their own families are the three main cultural problems that I'm aware of. And of course there are seriously fucked up things about their culture (relative to many others of course). The cultural revolution really fucked that population right up, down to the core. I know plenty of Chinese people who say the same thing.
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  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    The last time I checked cows, pigs and chickens weren't endangered animals. The chinese are the ones that are responsible for the loss of Tigers, Elephants and Rhinos those animals days are numbered its just a matter of when not if these animals will be extinct and no PR campaigns are going to change that.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/S-du8M6x6R4
    maybe it was posted already, i saw where chinese zoo fuckers were abusing a tiger, i couldn't get the link to open so i found something that may be it

    http://youtu.be/S-du8M6x6R4

    these assholes should have their throttles ripped out by the tiger's claws
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    I've seen that one before they typically drug them so they're less aggressive but it would be awesome to see one of the tigers rip one of those savages necks open.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,840
    ^^^ Feed those fuckers to the lions! I would never classify an entire group of people as subspecies but I would definitely classify these a-holes as subhuman.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,022
    edited March 2014
    brianlux said:

    ^^^ Feed those fuckers to the lions! I would never classify an entire group of people as subspecies but I would definitely classify these a-holes as subhuman.

    That's the thing though.... the majority of people in China really wouldn't give a shit about treating animals like that. They don't care about how animals feel (obviously there are people there who fight for it or care about it, but barely any relatively). They think of animals and just moving noisemakers that exist for humans to use. The idea of animals having feelings or rights is a new and foreign concept to the Chinese, and while plenty of people are definitely coming around with a LOT of urging from the government, since the only purpose even they see in such things as animal rights is good international PR, and it's a really hard sell. Change is grudgingly slow at best, plus with so many people there, cultural change like that is not only difficult, but largely unenforceable through law changes. Even in North America authorities can't keep up with animal cruelty cases, and the courts don't have the resources to prioritize that kind of thing usually, since crime against human beings takes precedence. Same as in China times 50,000,000 (and in China, sometimes not even then... more like $$$$$$ takes precedence over everything including human lives).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    I feel sick to my stomach reading about things like this. What can we do? Stop buying things from china?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Bronx Bombers said:

    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    The last time I checked cows, pigs and chickens weren't endangered animals. The chinese are the ones that are responsible for the loss of Tigers, Elephants and Rhinos those animals days are numbered its just a matter of when not if these animals will be extinct and no PR campaigns are going to change that.
    soo ... cruelty to animals only matters if they are endangered!??

    the PR campaigns have made a difference with shark fin which is way more ingrained in the culture than tiger and rhino bones ... in any case - your call ... you can call them all whatever derogatory thing you want ... that's the thing with the internet these days ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Annafalk said:

    I feel sick to my stomach reading about things like this. What can we do? Stop buying things from china?

    i would say if we stopped buying things from china - it would make a statement well beyond issues like this ... you have to remember that this is a culture that has been around for a looong time and that this integration with the rest of the world is relatively new ... many chinese tourists now have to be educated on etiquette because they are just ignorant ... the middle class is burgeoning there and these people are becoming more and more westernized ... it takes time but working with local groups and key figures (business men, celebrities, etc.) can make a mark ... the largest cinema chain owner in the world is chinese with a lot of theatres in the US and around the world ... i'm not saying we should target them necessarily but just that chinese investment globally is growing exponentially and they need to find that balance of not alienating their markets along with preserving their cultural heritage ...
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited April 2014
    where's the exhausted smilie? that's me

    probably something lie 99% of chinese wouldn't climb on a tiger, jump on its back, slap the cat around or smack its paws or punch the cat in the eyes

    these fucks are sadistic just like that chinese dance instructor, she beats on her students & verbally belittles them

    SADISTIC bullshit & it is all over the planet

    sadistic - deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others. this is everywhere

    again i'll be sticking to my guns - i dislike people a lot

    a vast number of the population is not worth a fuck

    but guess what, the human race will suffer a great deal & sooner than later as the planet rids itself of us. its happened before & will again. pole shift, ice age, blah blah blah.

    the great tiger will last forever i think, human asshole idiots? not so much
    but go golfing in the desert's fine ass golfing courses with their 1 million gallon per day water consuming habit & your fancy ass bullshit slacks & polo jerkwater shirts & very fancy little slick shoes.... then go slap a tiger or gut a cow down at the feed lot



    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,022
    Annafalk said:

    I feel sick to my stomach reading about things like this. What can we do? Stop buying things from china?

    I do think that people should stop buying from China (says the gal who still buys shit from China :-\" ), and that nations should impose economic sanctions on China, but not because of this issue. In fact, and contrary to my feelings about the terrible conditions animals are placed under over there, cutting off China in the economic sense would probably make the problem worse there rather than better (and have a lot of other negative consequences too). As long as China stands to keep benefiting economically from the West, the more they are likely to slowly move towards certain modern ideals such as ending cruelty to animals. So basically, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited April 2014
    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    To my way of thinking, there's a little bit of a difference raising animals for food purposes and killing animals painfully for entertainment purposes and afterwards... processing parts of the animal for 'medicinal uses' which, to any human being with a reasonable brain, are freaking ridiculous (eat a tiger and become a tiger?).

    The original comment was: You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies. No definitive statement by any means and clearly implying (in my mind) that given the depravity displayed towards these animals, it's hard to have any respect for these people.

    * Don't get me wrong here... factory farms are as depressing as anything.
    Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited April 2014
    Bronx Bombers is stroking his masive hard-on for the Chinese again.
    He started this thread because he wants you to believe that all Chinese are dog eating, tiger murdering savages. Don't take his bait. Racism is not cool.

    Sure there are some rich Chinese in Beijing and Shanghai e.t.c, who think that shark fin soup contains medicinal properties, and decorating their homes with Tigers skins makes them cool - these people are ignorant fucks. Not too difficult to work that one out. But they are not common, and China is changing fast. These outdated, neanderthal attitudes probably have something to do with tradition, and more to do with status symbols sought by a people new to the experience of huge wealth. Anyway, China is emerging from it's dark ages, where it was mostly isolated from the outside World, and this shit will die out. More and more people are owning pets here now, and attitudes are changing.
    Even in the six years I've been here I've seen huge changes.

    Though as far the mistreatment of animals, and environmental destruction, is concerned, the last time I checked, Western countries weren't acting as shining beacons of progress and enlightenment in this regard either.
    Post edited by Byrnzie on

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